I keep reading this along with predictions of Disney enforcing restrictions well into the future to attract guests who want to feel safe. But what I’m seeing is Disney opening parks and resorts, increasing capacity and relaxing social distancing. My thought is that they’re going for a different audience.
Going to Disney has never been a requirement. You can CHOOSE to go to Disney Parks. No one is forcing you to. If you are uncomfortable with the measures in place, you can choose to stay home. Everyone is aware that going to a theme park poses inherent risks of contracting COVID right now. Many people, myself included, would say the benefits (my family's happiness) outweigh the risks. But that is for each person to decide. I would personally rather experience low wait times by sitting every row on a roller coaster while everyone wears a mask and the seats are periodically sanitized, but that's just me. I am still satisfied with these precautions. If that's not a decision you're excited about, you don't have to ride it. You don't have to pay your own money to go.
I don't know if they are really going for a different audience do much as they just don't care now. They know their other parks aren't opening anytime soon so WDW has to bring in as much money as possible. Its a shame they are going this route. They were doing a great job with their measures.
But what if you are punishing everyone else because of your choice?
No one is calling for lockdowns. Its not a black and white issue in regards to things being open and things being closed. You can have the economy open and have restrictions in place to keep the spread down.
I agree with you on WDW. It’s your choice to go, the rules are clearly laid out. Most states will require you to at least quarantine or test negative when returning from WDW before returning to work or school now so you don’t directly impact as many other people if you do get sick.
I understand what you're saying here. I followed the guidelines and stayed home, always wore a mask when in public (when I had to go to go out, say, to the pharmacy or grocery store), and always kept my distance. Yet I ended up getting COVID as well. It proves that no matter what you do, you are not immune to COVID. At this point, I have had it, my family has had it, and a vaccine is on the horizon. I say, who is to stop me from living my life? Yet that is exactly what many people call for, and it's honestly ridiculous.
There will be an overall travel lull with kids going back to school and a total lack of conventions and special events which usually prop up travel to Orlando in Jan. President’s Day Weekend in Feb could be a small pop but most likely Jan/Feb into early March will be down. Spring Break starts last week of March. Lots could change by then with vaccines and hopefully a natural drop in cases as this wave ends.
The thing I would worry about on the coasters is guests not wearing their masks. You can see it in those pictures - the back section in that first picture all have their masks down. That seems to be an area that is difficult for Disney to enforce. I wonder if the MB links that get you your picture could help with this - mask down on a ride and you're gone from the park?Sure, because a high backed chair has been scientifically proven to prevent the spread of Covid
Really its no different than an airplane using every seat now, except you aren’t on the ride for hours, just minutes. Anyone who felt comfortable boarding a plane and flying to WDW but doesn‘t feel comfortable on a 5 minute ride with someone next to you or in the row behind you probably needs to rethink that position. Sitting in the row in front of someone with both people with masks on seems less risky to me than sitting at a table in an indoor restaurant with no masks.
Wow. That's a truly awful thing to say. I sure hope you don't actually mean it.
That’s a valid point. The way the airlines justify the every seat used policy is with masks as the mitigating safety protocol. We all know masks and distancing together is best but having one without the other is still better than having neither. Thats why I think masks are the last thing to go. For a place like WDW or an airline you can maximize customers with masks while distancing kills your bottom line.
You would actually have to have the virus to spread it. A healthy person traveling harms no one.
Until that healthy person comes in contact with someone traveling who is sick, and then becomes sick themselves.
Health 101 is too much to ask for around here.
The bigger problem is knowing who the healthy person is and who the sick person is. Remember when back in March the hope was that temperature scanners everywhere would identify who was sick and keep them out of public places. It’s too bad that didn‘t actually work. We could have had virtually everything open with a simple check if there wasn’t asymptomatic spread and people without fevers who are still contagious.
I guess we should all just stay home forever. I’m sure this isn’t the last virus we’re going to see with a 99.8% recovery rate.
For posterity.
I really don't think you're gonna hear a lot about people getting covid at Disney. Florida really doesn't contact trace, and with the long incubation period, it's almost impossible to tell where and when you got it.
I think the big difference is research shows airplane air is 100% flushed every 3-4 minutes. FOP definitely doesn't have that level of circulation or HEPA filters. But flights are also way longer and I'm not a scientist so
But here's why its tricky. Covid takes a while to show symptoms and seems to be transmissible for at least some of that period. It also seems to have asymptomatic cases and there has been documented asymptomatic spread.
And what happens after that 99.8% recovery rate? Is everyone free and clear and healthy - are there lasting effects for any? If you know the answer to that, I have news for you. It's a NOVEL virus. And that doesn't mean it's a book.
None of that is really conclusive. There’s is a million theories. I wouldn’t even bother linking an article.I really don't think you're gonna hear a lot about people getting covid at Disney. Florida really doesn't contact trace, and with the long incubation period, it's almost impossible to tell where and when you got it.
I recently spent several hours next to someone at work who tested positive. My employer advised me to quarantine (most boring 10 days ever...) but I was never contacted by Florida DOH at all. Kind of terrifying that I could spend that much time with someone who was positive and the state didn't care to inform me. Luckily I work for a company that takes this seriously. She said she had a long call with work to go over tracing and a 2 minute call with Florida - and they didn't ask for names or location visited, just advised her to quarantine.
So FOP has no distancing because it's less than 15 minutes, but Everest is shorter than FOP and has no distancing because of the high seat backs? Sounds like they need to figure out where to fit more people when they move to 45% capacity and are beginning to develop standards based on convenience rather than safety. I mean I guess I can't really blame them as they were the only ones actually taking it seriously.
I think the big difference is research shows airplane air is 100% flushed every 3-4 minutes. FOP definitely doesn't have that level of circulation or HEPA filters. But flights are also way longer and I'm not a scientist so
But here's why its tricky. Covid takes a while to show symptoms and seems to be transmissible for at least some of that period. It also seems to have asymptomatic cases and there has been documented asymptomatic spread.
So that "healthy" person could be:
-exposed before their test but not showing up yet
-Exposed after they got tested
-pre-symptomatic and feeling fine
-asymptomatic and feeling fine
-symptomatic but "it's just a cold"
-Symptomatic but not caring/not educated about what to do.
And it seems like they could potentially be able to spread it in any of these scenarios.
