Walls down at the Castle Walls

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
Not a chance.

Even if they squeeze it up next to the carousel (which they would never do), it would still obscure the path through the castle walls (which they would never do) and destroy the cleverly placed sight lines of SDMT (which they would never do).

This picture (or any in that album) proves my point. If you say its about the size of the carousel, which is true, it wont fit.And if it could it would look like crap. Something may go there, but it won't be the tea cups in their current form.

I've given all the facts I can. That's all I will say on this topic.

Remember though, SDMT replaced the elaborate M&G, and the Carousel obstructs the sight line from certain angles. Wouldn't obstruct traffic if it is nestled close to Village Haus.

Remember, Paris's Tea Cups is drop dead gorgeous, this baby wouldn't wreck the sight line, it would improve it!

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They could squeeze it in . . .

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If they put the support columns for the Tea cups closer towards the middle (like in DLP), then you'd easily have enough room for a large walkway between the Carousel and Tea Cups (should they be moved).

Mad_Tea_Party_of_Magic_Kingdom.jpg
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Remember though, SDMT replaced the elaborate M&G, and the Carousel obstructs the sight line from certain angles. Wouldn't obstruct traffic if it is nestled close to Village Haus.

Yes it would. It would create huge traffic jams trying to get from the castle walls to peter pan and vice versa.

Also, tt doesn't even fit in that area, as a poster showed with the google earth image. And the NFL concept art clearly shows the Tea Cups remaining in its original place.

I honestly don't know why or how this move would be beneficial for anyone.
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
Yes it would. It would create huge traffic jams trying to get from the castle walls to peter pan and vice versa.

Also, tt doesn't even fit in that area, as a poster showed with the google earth image. And the NFL concept art clearly shows the Tea Cups remaining in its original place.

I honestly don't know why or how this move would be beneficial for anyone.

Remember that the bottleneck were talking about here is the walkway between the castle walls, doesn't really matter if the downstream or upstream walkway is just a little bigger, in terms of crowd flows, though the walkway between Carousel and Tea Cups (should they move it), could easily be 2x as wide.

They could have the I-4 go up to the walkway between the castle walls . . . still wouldn't help any more guests amble through.

Anyway, folks could also get to Peter Pan via the route around the Carousel.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Remember that the bottleneck were talking about here is the walkway between the castle walls, doesn't really matter if the downstream or upstream walkway is just a little bigger, in terms of crowd flows, though the walkway between Carousel and Tea Cups (should they move it), could easily be 2x as wide.

Anyway, folks could also get to Peter Pan via the route around the Carousel.

I don't think they are moving it. So we don't have to worry about any of this...

Let's instead get back on topic and simply marvel at how awesome these castle walls look! :)
 

phi2134

Well-Known Member
Remember though, SDMT replaced the elaborate M&G, and the Carousel obstructs the sight line from certain angles. Wouldn't obstruct traffic if it is nestled close to Village Haus.

Remember, Paris's Tea Cups is drop dead gorgeous, this baby wouldn't wreck the sight line, it would improve it!

DLP%20Tea%20Cups%2001.jpg


They could squeeze it in . . .

rotator640x350_flaerial_aug2012.jpg


If they put the support columns for the Tea cups closer towards the middle (like in DLP), then you'd easily have enough room for a large walkway between the Carousel and Tea Cups (should they be moved).

Mad_Tea_Party_of_Magic_Kingdom.jpg

From all the posts I have seen from you, I have come to the conclusion you are simply out for Internet attention
 

J03Y

Well-Known Member
oh wow, they're so much better actually seeing them instead of envisioning them! i'm not kidding when i say i almost cried. this is it! the first step! next comes the actual area in November with the previews. i hope people film their experience and put them on YouTube, like i need videos of this stuff like NOW.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I do not think they look that great. Like far too much of the Magic Kingdom and Walt Disney World in general the wall is lacking in tectonic texture. In short, it looks fake.
 

cookiee_munster

Well-Known Member
think i must be the only person secretly hoping that one day, the castle will match the colour of the brickwork of the walls so its a little more stoney in colour and less grey.

great stuff none the less! :) i do think that something will be put in-between the arches much like cinderella's castle mosaics. i hope so anyway :)

EDIT - also the idea of the teacups being moved into the courtyard kind of defeats the reason as to why Dumbo was moved and the castle walls built. yes, they serve as a thematic purpose of transition from forest to courtyard, but the biggest reason was to relieve congestion from that area. the teacups are better off where they are, but i do agree that one day they should receive a beautiful roof much like the Paris version.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
well it's FANTASYland - not medivaleuropeLand :)
I fail to see the relationship between being about Fantasy and having construction that does not carry through the illusion that this is stone. No part of the Fantasy would be lost be having a greater illusion in sight and feeling that this is stone construction. It certainly seems to work at Disneyland where the illusion is better executed and at Disneyland Paris where in many cases it is not an illusion, but real materials.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I fail to see the relationship between being about Fantasy and having construction that does not carry through the illusion that this is stone

Because it does not need to look like the cold, dirty, gritty real world. It needs to look like your fantasy world vision of what castles should look like. The material should look convincing, but does not need to try to be true to reality. Theater...
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Because it does not need to look like the cold, dirty, gritty real world. It needs to look like your fantasy world vision of what castles should look like. The material should look convincing, but does not need to try to be true to reality. Theater...
I'm not talking about being cold or gritty. I'm talking about it looking and feeling more like actual stone than looking like a material shaped and painted. I do not think it looks, and probably doesnt feel, convincing.
 

Atomicmickey

Well-Known Member
I'll just add that I don't think they're supposed to be 'convincing' actual stone, either.
I think the intent is "heightened reality". It's the difference between, say,
Adventureland, and Africa in the Animal Kingdom. Africa has much more 'tooth'
to it. These, (I think), are supposed to have something of a 'fantasy sheen' to
them--slightly cartoony, exaggerated, and cleaner-than-life. I'm pretty sure
it's intentional.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I'll just add that I don't think they're supposed to be 'convincing' actual stone, either.
I think the intent is "heightened reality". It's the difference between, say,
Adventureland, and Africa in the Animal Kingdom. Africa has much more 'tooth'
to it. These, (I think), are supposed to have something of a 'fantasy sheen' to
them--slightly cartoony, exaggerated, and cleaner-than-life. I'm pretty sure
it's intentional.
I understand the difference in aim between something like Adventureland and Harambe. This more plastic is also seen in Hong Kong Disneyland. It seems to be more of a pragmatic material choice in response to climate than a deliberate show choice.
 

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