Vicious SGE Rehab Rumor

[General Grizz]

Why DOESN'T Stitch fit into Tomorrowland, Indy95?

He's a creature from outer space that has nothing to do with foward thinking/progress.

Alien Enounter, while being based on the whole sci-fi aspect, really focused on the future of technology - genetic survelliance, planetary restructuring, teleportation - and it offered a lesson, too. It was a ride about future technology. Stitch is a ride about an alien breaking loose in a fictional detention center that has no Tomorrowland merit.

Carousel of Progress is a look into the PAST! and what it means for the future. So, you could argue, that Carousel really belongs in Epcot, not in Tomorrowland. After all, it's not really a bold vision of tomorrow it is it? All it does it inspire faith in the things to come based on how far we came in the past.?

CoP DOES belong in Future World, but keep in mind the final scene takes place in the future and our CURRENT vision of tomorrow. "There's a great, big, beautiful tomorrow(land)."

but Buzz does? Expain this to me please.

Buzz does not. But Stitch only made the problem worse.

 

[dxwwf3]

I don't respect "bandwagon", and never have.

Even though I haven't personally been in the theater to see the show, I don't think my opinions have been "bandwagon"-like in any form. And if you think they are, then I'm sorry...that's not my problem :wave:

 

[PurpleDragon]

I personally have not experienced the attraction and do not plan to, I do not like the Stitch character. I also don't like the fact that they removed a great attraction like AE to promote an overall unpopular character just so they could try and squeeze more money out of it.

Sorry, I know that sounds harsh but its just the way I feel.

 

[Legacy]

Even though I haven't personally been in the theater to see the show, I don't think my opinions have been "bandwagon"-like in any form. And if you think they are, then I'm sorry...that's not my problem :wave:

Shoot... you were on the bandwagon before the bandwagon was even cool!

 

[FamilyMan]

I think the bandwagon just crashed into a pile of hay...:lookaroun

LOL

 

[dxwwf3]

Shoot... you were on the bandwagon before the bandwagon was even cool!

You could say I started the bandwagon.....A LONG, LONG time ago. But that came out of genuine feelings about Stitch, "Lilo & Stitch" the film, and Alien Encounter. Not because of the result of the attraction SGE.

So basically what I ment by my post was that I'm not bandwagon-ing on because the attraction isn't so great. I've never liked Stitch.

And I think that what I said a while back actually came to pass. So you can call me the Chris Berman of WDWMagic if you would like :lol:

 

[Stitchfan712]

Even though I haven't personally been in the theater to see the show, I don't think my opinions have been "bandwagon"-like in any form. And if you think they are, then I'm sorry...that's not my problem :wave:

dx, my posts aren't refering to you at all. I've respected your opinion from the beginning and still do, even if it's contrary to mine.


You aren't part of the bandwagon club. Not talking about you.

 

[Stitchfan712]

I personally have not experienced the attraction and do not plan to, I do not like the Stitch character. I also don't like the fact that they removed a great attraction like AE to promote an overall unpopular character just so they could try and squeeze more money out of it.

Sorry, I know that sounds harsh but its just the way I feel.

Stitch is not an unpopular character. You may not like him, but he is popular.

 

[FamilyMan]

Stitch is not an unpopular character. You may not like him, but he is popular.

Disney has a way with milking characters as much as they can... and then it will start to drive us away from the characters. Give it another few years, and everyone will be sick and tired of Stitch.

 

[dxwwf3]

dx, my posts aren't refering to you at all. I've respected your opinion from the beginning and still do, even if it's contrary to mine.


You aren't part of the bandwagon club. Not talking about you.

Ok good deal. Thanks alot. I didn't know of any other people that were talking about the attraction that hadn't actually seen it, so I just assumed I was the only one.

 

[PurpleDragon]

Stitch is not an unpopular character. You may not like him, but he is popular.

Not in comparison to the popularity of:
Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Goofy, Pluto, Peter Pan, Aladdin, Buzz, Woody, Cinderella, etc... Shall I continue?

The point is that Stitch might have been popular, but he was never popular enough to merit his own attraction. Disney simply hyped up this character since he was the most likely canidate to stick into a new attraction in Tomorrowland to help correct failing attendance. I think this was simply because he was an alien and they could quickly and cheaply rework the theming of Tomorrowland to squeeze him in there. Thus destroying what Tomorrowland is supposed to be, a view into tomorrow via technology and science, not the sci-fi freak show they are trying to turn it into (this includes Buzz).

Disney hype created Stitch's popularity, not the strenght of the character itself. In my personal opinion.

 

[General Grizz]

Stitch is not an unpopular character. You may not like him, but he is popular.

I agree. Stitch is VERY popular. Look at the lines at SGE!

I won't agree Stitch isn't on the level of Mickey or Minnie -- not even Simba or the Genie, as others have described.

That being said, I think Stitch was popular enough for his own attraction. But they way they went around changing AE to bring in the kids wasn't right. He should have kicked Iago and Zazu out of the Tiki Room and been more of a charming Stitch (i.e. the second half of the movie) and learn a valuable lesson -- while being just a LITTLE naughty.

 

[NemoRocks78]

I didn't come here to watch a bash-fest for a character that I love.

Who said that everyone that is bashing the attraction didn't like Stitch? I am a big Stitch fan (currently my second favorite character, behind Goofy of course) and I hated the attraction.

Give it another few years, and everyone will be sick and tired of Stitch.

If Disney keeps going in the direction that they currently are going (for example, putting Stitch on the monorail spiel and wake-up calls, on all of the Osborne Lights logos, etc.), then some people (including me) will be sick and tired of Stitch in a few months. They are going WAY too far with this.

 

[General Grizz]

Let me say something about Stitch.

I LOVED Lilo and Stitch. I saw the film three times in theatres. The last time I'd done anything like that was with the first Toy Story movie. (I did it again with Finding Nemo).

I'll also say I own Lilo and Stitch. Keep in mind I own NO feature animated movies made between 1996 and 2001, except Fantasia 2000. I bought Lilo and Stitch in a heartbeat. I have three Stitch memorabilia pieces from 2002 up here by my computer. This can't be said for any other character except for the Country Bears, Mickey Mouse, or Figment.

The story was EXCELLENT. The characters were EXCELLENT. The art was EXCELLENT.

But then something happened.

Stitch went everywhere. He had a sequel out. Then he was put on television - where he looks horrible. Suddenly, Stitch was everywhere.

And since I've seen Stitch so much on TV (in the "cheaper" form), he's lost the magic for me. I have had no desire to watch the movie for the past year -- yet I still regard the movie as excellent. I don't like the Stitch ride.

I adore the Stitch character, let me say, but in the context of the Magic Kingdom TP'ing character, rampant wakeup caller, and TV star, I've become very sick of Stitch.

I guess Disney saw a true star coming out of the Florida studios and exploited him to suck out the most money possible. In the meantime, they ruined (for now) the character for me, personally.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I think the attraction's story (and that @#%#@ chilli dog smell) need some help.

Its a good attraction but, it needs something that will make people go "Wow" because other than the AA, there wasnt anything that made me want to ride it again.

 

[CTXRover]

I don't think SGE is bad at all. Its not great either and if they could just fix a few loose edges I think it could go a long way.

The Stitch animatronic is spectacular, as are the new plasma cannons, but the Stitch animatronic is currently underused. Simple fix: extend his visibility time. Fix the god awful ending (1st priority in my opinion...as it is the thing that is often most remembered), shorten some of the downtime in the dark, make Sarge in the pre-show a little less goofy and I think it would be a lot better. I really do believe the basics for a really great attraction is there, it just needs some fine-tuning in my opinion. Of course, as the utter hatred towards SGE is growing, any changes would have to perhaps be a little more drastic to make folks happier.

IF some sort of rehab does occur, I will be thrilled. Not because I think it desperately needs one (but obviously a lot of folks here do), but because it once again follows the thinking of Walt when it came to Disneyland. He had something along the lines of the fact that the difference between film and a theme park is that a movie is something you make and release and its over. If people hate it, too bad. But with attractions and the park, if people didn't respond to it like you had hoped, you can go back and change it and try again...goes along with the idea of the park ever-evolving.

 

[Stitchfan712]

I guess that's the difference between you and me.

Every time I see Stitch somewhere...the osbourne lights, the monorail, the logos, the character breakfasts, the meet n' greets, I am reminded of how, not too long ago, there was almost nothing out there for this character that I love.


Now he's everywhere. He is, because people love him. And Disney is getting a clue. Whenever I see Stitch somewhere, I have nothing but gratitude and thanks.

Not fatigue. Not "oh I'm sick of this".

There's just one thing that has, on the rare occasion, bothered me. It's a selfish emotion really, but.....I almost feel jealous of Stitch in away that....I was there before the late-comers arrived...and it almost seems something that used to be "mine" now has to be shared with the world.

but that's okay. Because I'm glad he got this far. It's a damned sight better than the fate I feared: No future of Stitch. That he'd fade away forever.


He survived. I burst with pride knowing that. But, if it were up to me, Stitch would be in every park. And present in most logos. And WOULD be formally inducted into the Fab 5, along with Lilo. But that's my PERSONAL feeling.


The actual response from the public is strong enough that yes indeed he deserves his own attraction and the rights afforded to other popular characters, like the character breakfasts.

He's earned it. Don't matter if a few of us are getting tired of him...he's earned what he's been given.



You know, I think a large segment of the public is rightly sick and tired of Pooh too. Way overmarketed, he saturated everything there for a while. But, he still carries on, despite a lot of people really being sick of him.


Stitch is no pooh. Stitch is far better.


I am so sorry if this bugs someone, but the truth of the matter is, Stitch is the most popular character of any disney movie for the last 10 years. That's 1995-onwards folks, which doesn't include Genie or Simba. And Pixar is not Disney.

 

[FamilyMan]

That also doesn't include any Disney-PIXAR films either I guess.

 

[Testtrack321]

I guess that's the difference between you and me.

Every time I see Stitch somewhere...the osbourne lights, the monorail, the logos, the character breakfasts, the meet n' greets, I am reminded of how, not too long ago, there was almost nothing out there for this character that I love.


Now he's everywhere. He is, because people love him. And Disney is getting a clue. Whenever I see Stitch somewhere, I have nothing but gratitude and thanks.

Not fatigue. Not "oh I'm sick of this".

There's just one thing that has, on the rare occasion, bothered me. It's a selfish emotion really, but.....I almost feel jealous of Stitch in away that....I was there before the late-comers arrived...and it almost seems something that used to be "mine" now has to be shared with the world.

but that's okay. Because I'm glad he got this far. It's a damned sight better than the fate I feared: No future of Stitch. That he'd fade away forever.


He survived. I burst with pride knowing that. But, if it were up to me, Stitch would be in every park. And present in most logos. And WOULD be formally inducted into the Fab 5, along with Lilo. But that's my PERSONAL feeling.


The actual response from the public is strong enough that yes indeed he deserves his own attraction and the rights afforded to other popular characters, like the character breakfasts.

He's earned it. Don't matter if a few of us are getting tired of him...he's earned what he's been given.



You know, I think a large segment of the public is rightly sick and tired of Pooh too. Way overmarketed, he saturated everything there for a while. But, he still carries on, despite a lot of people really being sick of him.


Stitch is no pooh. Stitch is far better.


I am so sorry if this bugs someone, but the truth of the matter is, Stitch is the most popular character of any disney movie for the last 10 years. That's 1995-onwards folks, which doesn't include Genie or Simba. And Pixar is not Disney.

Oy vey. My head!

Stitch is popular, but saying it's more popular than Pooh? ? Disney isn't all of a sudden getting an idea that Stitch is popular, they've known that, but now they have more of a hook to plant more pointless Stitch stuff in parks. Meet 'n' Greets, fine, character breakfasts, sure thing. Having him in the Osborne Lights? Huh? Where does that make sense? Monorail? ?

Don't go saying you were on in the beginning, oh no, I was one of the guys who saw the famous leaked video of the rough drawn animations for Lilo & Stitch a few months before Atlantis came out!

There is a difference between having Stitch walk around and people loving him, and just Disney him around. It seems there is a new formula for marketing at WDW: 1.) Make it cheap 2.) Add Stitch.

 

[DDuckFan130]

I wanted to make a comment...if the attraction is supposed to be a prequel, why isn't Jumba included? He made 626, so why not? I guess that's bias talking, because Jumba is as much my favorite character as 626/Stitch. His character in the film is hilarious and it would've been nice to see him in the attraction.