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Rumor Version of MaxPass coming to WDW in May?
- Thread starter rle4lunch
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NoChesterHester
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How do you know you can get it if booking for a week?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
When the window opens up...you can see it open up 4-5 days out for more popular rides.
The problem is...it does you no good if you’re not staying that long.
I noticed that 60 days puts us near the hell that is “jersey week”
And here’s another problem: bet the hours are 9-7?
Not good enough. The customers fault. They won’t stop going and then they’ll book upsells - discouraging Disney to have proper hours.
Why give when they’ll double pay?
That week...people will buy Halloween AND Christmas.
Magic, baby
The problem is...it does you no good if you’re not staying that long.
I noticed that 60 days puts us near the hell that is “jersey week”
And here’s another problem: bet the hours are 9-7?
Not good enough. The customers fault. They won’t stop going and then they’ll book upsells - discouraging Disney to have proper hours.
Why give when they’ll double pay?
That week...people will buy Halloween AND Christmas.
Magic, baby
Demarke
Have I told you lately that I 👍 you?
A lot of people (myself included) are getting them yesterday and today for the Wine and Dine race weekend (people doing the 5k would have registered yesterday and people doing the 10k and half mostly starting today). It’s the 10th anniversary and all races have been sold out for quite some time (well over 10,000 runners per race, many bringing family with them), plus I would imagine that the Run Disney crowd is more familiar with fastpass than the standard weekend crowd, which is why they are going a little faster right now.
When I checked this morning Slinky and Flight of Passage were both available in the afternoon on day four (about 5pm-ish on Nov 4), and had morning times on Nov 5. I think there were a few times for them just before park close on Nov 3 (day #3), but that obviously keeps you from being able to do any more than three for the day. 7 Dwarfs was only completely out on day #1 (Nov 1) and had lunchtime or earlier by day #3. Epcot had all tier one rides available.
There is still a day or two of 6am EMH Nov 1 and 2, I bet Slinky will be fairly wide open during those times as everybody is headed to Star Wars.
When I checked this morning Slinky and Flight of Passage were both available in the afternoon on day four (about 5pm-ish on Nov 4), and had morning times on Nov 5. I think there were a few times for them just before park close on Nov 3 (day #3), but that obviously keeps you from being able to do any more than three for the day. 7 Dwarfs was only completely out on day #1 (Nov 1) and had lunchtime or earlier by day #3. Epcot had all tier one rides available.
There is still a day or two of 6am EMH Nov 1 and 2, I bet Slinky will be fairly wide open during those times as everybody is headed to Star Wars.
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pdude81
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I'm not saying I like it. I'd just rather pay to solve the problem than not go on these rides. But if they don't either stop reducing throughput in low crowd times or at least offer an over the top option for tier 1 FPs, we may have to spec out a trip to Uni and see what the difference is. For similar hotel rates there we would get unlimited fastpasses.
Cousin Huet
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I disagree with the framing of Maxpass here. The real difference is that Maxpass is only available DAY OF your visit once inside the park. So, it plays more like legacy fastpass but on the phone. There isn’t a situation where ALL the fastpasses for the best attractions are taken 60 days in advance. If Flight of Passage where at Disneyland then you would be able to get a fastpass for it the day of your visit upon entering the park and then get off the ride and do the next best attraction and so on and so forth.
With Maxpass we were able to ride all the high wait time rides in both parks without having to Standby at all. You aren’t wasting it on silly 15min wait attractions with the Maxpass system.
People love being able to have those rides locked in months in advance of their trip with the Orlando system (as do I) but the DL Maxpass system is much more flexible.....you don’t have to get it if you don’t need it and you get to use it on everything you could possibly need it for if you have basic time management skills. Both systems we never have a huge issue with but the Maxpass is way more laid back and you can do everything no problem with it. That is my experience from having done both a considerable amount of times each.
With Maxpass we were able to ride all the high wait time rides in both parks without having to Standby at all. You aren’t wasting it on silly 15min wait attractions with the Maxpass system.
People love being able to have those rides locked in months in advance of their trip with the Orlando system (as do I) but the DL Maxpass system is much more flexible.....you don’t have to get it if you don’t need it and you get to use it on everything you could possibly need it for if you have basic time management skills. Both systems we never have a huge issue with but the Maxpass is way more laid back and you can do everything no problem with it. That is my experience from having done both a considerable amount of times each.
What problem did they create? Being too popular?
What are they charging? 3 FPs for WDW resort guest are free. They only upcharge here is select After Hours or Early Morning Magic days, which is a solution for being too crowded.
The need to have a FP for almost anything (including lower level rides that never needed one before FP+) because of overcrowding, prebooking and running attractions at less than lower capacity.
Charging can be for the after/before hours events or it could be the coming changes we have heard alluded to here. Either way, it's a win/win for Disney.
Maxpass is a paid version of Fastpass.
Yes, I was questioning what problem DL intentionally created that necessitated Maxpass.
That one I can’t answer. Unless their lines are long too?
Or introducing Fastpass (TM) in the first place.
My comment was about what is being hinted at for WDW. I acutally like MaxPass. That's probably because I think you can still have a great experience in the parks there without it. It's a system that maintains a decent balance of benefit for Disney, guests who purchase MP as well as guests who don't purchase it.
BigThunderMatt
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Honestly at this point Disney is the only major holdout in the industry on not having some kind of paid skip the line pass outside of VIP tours (and the parks that have a paid skip pass still offer VIP tours as well). I don't get their logic behind why they just won't implement it already. You can't use the argument that it gives them a marketing edge by saying it's "free", because if there was no market for a paid version other parks wouldn't even offer it and clearly they're doing fine, and clearly they aren't great about marketing it as it is because it's so confusing for people who are new to WDW or theme parks in general.
I actually just used Cedar Point's equivalent system on Labor Day. The cost of it, plus the ticket was less than a 1-day at WDW and it was QUITE busy on Labor Day and I got to experience EVERYTHING I wanted to go on between 10am and 6:30pm and that was with ample breaks and meals in between. I would have gladly paid that much and more for the same self-paced experience at Disney. They are seriously losing out on some major cash.
I actually just used Cedar Point's equivalent system on Labor Day. The cost of it, plus the ticket was less than a 1-day at WDW and it was QUITE busy on Labor Day and I got to experience EVERYTHING I wanted to go on between 10am and 6:30pm and that was with ample breaks and meals in between. I would have gladly paid that much and more for the same self-paced experience at Disney. They are seriously losing out on some major cash.
They're too stuck on the "everyone is equal" egalitarian thing they've had since day 1 with Fastpass, while still offering lots of paid "upgrade" experiences. Even with VIP Tours, which cost a fortune now, they don't even take you to the front of the lines. You're stuck going through the FP+ queue, which if you've used much, can often push 20-30 minutes for some attractions. Imagine paying $600 an hour but you have to stand in line behind 50 people while all the Ma and Pa kettles keep trying to figure out how to tap their bands at the checkpoint? It teeters on absurd.
That's Appalachianist!!!
BigThunderMatt
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Even before the implementation of FP+ this was still the case. The only people that get walked up the exit are high-profile guests whose presence in the queue would likely create chaos.
Correct (with some exceptions) but the point is that at Universal and other parks, if you're paying top dollar, you get true front-of-line access. At Disney, you just get Fastpass access. It's a little absurd to be paying $600 an hour for a VIP tour and the guide to tell you "sorry the Fastpass line for Toy Story Mania is too long right now. We can wait if you want but it won't be worth your time." That's a thing that guides have to do all the time for various rides. It all goes back to the faux-egalitarian thing.
BigThunderMatt
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Perhaps with the introduction of a paid system they could actually revise VIP tours to truly be front of the line and I'm not sure why they can't see that. I remember when they switched from GAC to DAS for guests with disabilities we were actually advised to inform guests who inquired how they could just bypass the line about VIP tours. I'm sure there was some snark and bluff-calling in that response but at the same time it would have been a flat out lie if they had actually decided to take Disney up on that.
HauntedMansionFLA
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It’s September!!! Where are they!!!! Waiting for Tom Staggs to roll them out?