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EpcotServo

EpcotServo

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EPCOT Explorer said:
Your love for the Studios....:lookaroun:lol: is blinding you.:eek::lol:

Seriously though, what is it? Is it a a Hollywood park? Is it a entertainment park? Is it a studio? There are so many glaring details that clash for me, it's hard to answer the question.


Honestly, I think the park needs a DCA.:eek:
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Not for me.


KINGDOMS, COMMUNITIES, AND A STUDIO


~A letter to WDW Magic and all Disney Fans~

By EpcotServo

Foreward by The Muppets



"When somebody out there loves you, stands up and hollers for 'More!', that's when you've found a home at the Magic Store."



The Studios is just like EPCOT, a park with a central theme and character that outlines, encompasses, and brings together many different things into a community. Just as Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, Disneyland, and Tokyo Disneysea do. Just as MK is a "Kingdom" and EPCOT a "Community", the park is a "Studio", wherein everything inside is dedicated to carrying out the THEME of the park (Hence why they are called-Theme Parks) Magic Kingdom's theme is Reliving Fantasy. EPCOT is about bettering yourself, and the world around you, by understating it. Animal Kingdom is about Man's love for Animals, and how it can affect them for the better. DisneySea is about the soul of and spirit of adventure, as reflected by the boundless sea. Studios is about just as base an instinct, being the star, entertainment. Just as the other themes Imagineering has devolped, every human born will eventually have that moment that they want to join the stage, meet the men and women on the silver screen, and entertain the world to the thrill of applause.

At Magic Kingdom, timeless adventures-From soaring through space or over Neverland, let you live the fantasies of your childhood.

At Epcot, experiences, foreign sights and smells, and the thrill of what might be learned, or what might be possible drives the excitement of the theme.

At Animal Kingdom you meet face-to-face with Animals as told through you're entire life. From meeting Mickey with a big smile, to staring with bated breath on the plains of Africa-as a Lion looks right at you, with no barriers whatsoever. All of these experiences can be found within the depths of Man's love for the Animals around us, be they in the house, or half the world away. And by experiencing these adventures from every stage of life, we can better prepare ourselves for the last task: Conservation.

At DisneySea, every corner, every pathway is designed to let you know there's something better just a journey away. That from the gateway of the Ocean, our legends, myths, and adventures await. And as long as you continue that travel, rewards await!

And at the Studios, just as these other parks do, all of these many different tales, instincts, and fantasies, all random, are brought together to deliver the theme. At studios every attraction, every show, every street, every citizen of Hollywood, is designed to bring us that dream on Entertaining those around us. From Being a Toy in Andy's Toybox, rushing to play before he comes home. To being part of that theater we all remember, while Kermit tries to contain the chaos that always ensue. Cheering on an unkown as they sing their heart out. Finding that autograph of your favorite actor tucked away in an old shop. To rushing through the L.A. Night in a Limo like you've always dreamed with your mind sky-high on Rock N Roll and being treated like a VIP by a famous Rock Band. To stepping into Bergis Meredith's or William Shatner's shoes to step onto an elevator and into The Twilight Zone.

And just as The natural world, the foreign lands, and the stunning architecture are the backdrops, the "Cement" that holds these far reaching adventures the exploration of these themes will take us too is held together at Animal Kingdom, DisneySea, and EPCOT respectively do, the allure of Hollywood and the Working studio provides this "cement" for these adventures to take place. When one thinks of Entertainment, one thinks about the Hollywood that never was-but always will be, and the sweat n' grease, makeup n' wardrobe, Fire n' water world of a Studio Backlot.

So as I've tried to literate in this explanation and examination of Walt Disney Imagineering and the Theme Parks, is that the idea that Studios, Animal Kingdom, or any park I've mentioned is any less than the others in true principal is an outright mistruth, and common slander.

WDI's theme parks in my formative argument, have-on the whole been misrepresented in these arguments and wholly misunderstood. You can't put "More themeing on it" as Joe Rhode tried to explain on the tenth anniversary of Animal Kingdom. Theme is a base concept. From that you tell stories. From there you add plot and experience. From that, you add detail. In turn, those details and those stories culminate in a successful day in a Disney Park, a day in which the theme has been explored with you. At Kingdom it's the feeling of having an amazing dream, waking up the happier. At Epcot, it's the feeling of knowing more about where we are, what's around us, and where we're going. At DisneySea it's the feeling of returning to port-Having seen amazing things and bringing back incredible legends and tales to tell for the rest of our life. At Animal Kingdom, it's knowing that, even faced with great threat, love conquers all, and that we have to work everyday, from the plains of Africa, to the heights of the himalayas, and our own backyard- to better our part of the relationship with our friends, the Animals that share our world. And at Studios, that no matter what we do in life, no matter what our job, it's ALWAYS possible to be the star, Leave em' laughin' or cryin' in the aisles, as long as our Imagination lets us believe we're the stars of the show. Just as Mickey says to close out the night at Fantasmic "Some Imagination, huh?"


A sign that types out "This is a studio, in a real place" should be as unwelcome by some of you "fans" as a sign at Epcot that says "This is a series of Buildings, all related to each other, and exist firmly in this world". Or a sign at Magic Kingdom that says "These are all just rides and shows. Adventureland is clearly not a faraway jungle, as you can see a Castle and Tomorrowland from here. Stop imagining things."

That's not what Magic Kingdom is. That's not what Epcot is. And that isn't what studios is. It's a THEME PARK, not just a park.

I can't think of a better metaphor than of when Imagineers at Wed went to Walt and said "We can't build the Matterhorn. Why would you see a Swiss Mountain on Main Street, which is supposed to be Missouri at the turn of the century."

The answer of why Walt said yes, why the Matterhorn still fits in perfectly for some 50 odd years now, is that it's Disneyland. Turn of the Century Missouri and a Swiss Mountain have nothing to do with each other, EXCEPT...Both of them are far reaching adventures that lie in the heart of everyone's fantasies. And that's what makes Disneyland their home. Living Fantasies, the theme of Disneyland. Right there. Take a picture.

So next time you step into a Disney Park, ye complainers of Studios, know this:

You can only get from the Park, what you take in with you.

Turn off your Imagination at the gate if you want, but it's that theme of wanting to take center stage and make it big that will continue to bring that busy L.A. Night on the freeway...That playset Under Andy's Bed...That Ewok Village on a cold night on Endor...That balcony with two old hecklers...The hangar in Casablanca where too crazy mixed up people say goodbye...that old deserted hotel at the end of Sunset Blvd. in the 1940's...and the Hollywood that never was, all fit together just perfectly to me.
 
EPCOT Explorer

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
EpcotServo said:
Not for me.


KINGDOMS, COMMUNITIES, AND A STUDIO


~A letter to WDW Magic and all Disney Fans~

By EpcotServo

Foreward by The Muppets



"When somebody out there loves you, stands up and hollers for 'More!', that's when you've found a home at the Magic Store."



The Studios is just like EPCOT, a park with a central theme and character that outlines, encompasses, and brings together many different things into a community. Just as Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, Disneyland, and Tokyo Disneysea do. Just as MK is a "Kingdom" and EPCOT a "Community", the park is a "Studio", wherein everything inside is dedicated to carrying out the THEME of the park (Hence why they are called-Theme Parks) Magic Kingdom's theme is Reliving Fantasy. EPCOT is about bettering yourself, and the world around you, by understating it. Animal Kingdom is about Man's love for Animals, and how it can affect them for the better. DisneySea is about the soul of and spirit of adventure, as reflected by the boundless sea. Studios is about just as base an instinct, being the star, entertainment. Just as the other themes Imagineering has devolped, every human born will eventually have that moment that they want to join the stage, meet the men and women on the silver screen, and entertain the world to the thrill of applause.

At Magic Kingdom, timeless adventures-From soaring through space or over Neverland, let you live the fantasies of your childhood.

At Epcot, experiences, foreign sights and smells, and the thrill of what might be learned, or what might be possible drives the excitement of the theme.

At Animal Kingdom you meet face-to-face with Animals as told through you're entire life. From meeting Mickey with a big smile, to staring with bated breath on the plains of Africa-as a Lion looks right at you, with no barriers whatsoever. All of these experiences can be found within the depths of Man's love for the Animals around us, be they in the house, or half the world away. And by experiencing these adventures from every stage of life, we can better prepare ourselves for the last task: Conservation.

At DisneySea, every corner, every pathway is designed to let you know there's something better just a journey away. That from the gateway of the Ocean, our legends, myths, and adventures await. And as long as you continue that travel, rewards await!

And at the Studios, just as these other parks do, all of these many different tales, instincts, and fantasies, all random, are brought together to deliver the theme. At studios every attraction, every show, every street, every citizen of Hollywood, is designed to bring us that dream on Entertaining those around us. From Being a Toy in Andy's Toybox, rushing to play before he comes home. To being part of that theater we all remember, while Kermit tries to contain the chaos that always ensue. Cheering on an unkown as they sing their heart out. Finding that autograph of your favorite actor tucked away in an old shop. To rushing through the L.A. Night in a Limo like you've always dreamed with your mind sky-high on Rock N Roll and being treated like a VIP by a famous Rock Band. To stepping into Bergis Meredith's or William Shatner's shoes to step onto an elevator and into The Twilight Zone.

And just as The natural world, the foreign lands, and the stunning architecture are the backdrops, the "Cement" that holds these far reaching adventures the exploration of these themes will take us too is held together at Animal Kingdom, DisneySea, and EPCOT respectively do, the allure of Hollywood and the Working studio provides this "cement" for these adventures to take place. When one thinks of Entertainment, one thinks about the Hollywood that never was-but always will be, and the sweat n' grease, makeup n' wardrobe, Fire n' water world of a Studio Backlot.

So as I've tried to literate in this explanation and examination of Walt Disney Imagineering and the Theme Parks, is that the idea that Studios, Animal Kingdom, or any park I've mentioned is any less than the others in true principal is an outright mistruth, and common slander.

WDI's theme parks in my formative argument, have-on the whole been misrepresented in these arguments and wholly misunderstood. You can't put "More themeing on it" as Joe Rhode tried to explain on the tenth anniversary of Animal Kingdom. Theme is a base concept. From that you tell stories. From there you add plot and experience. From that, you add detail. In turn, those details and those stories culminate in a successful day in a Disney Park, a day in which the theme has been explored with you. At Kingdom it's the feeling of having an amazing dream, waking up the happier. At Epcot, it's the feeling of knowing more about where we are, what's around us, and where we're going. At DisneySea it's the feeling of returning to port-Having seen amazing things and bringing back incredible legends and tales to tell for the rest of our life. At Animal Kingdom, it's knowing that, even faced with great threat, love conquers all, and that we have to work everyday, from the plains of Africa, to the heights of the himalayas, and our own backyard- to better our part of the relationship with our friends, the Animals that share our world. And at Studios, that no matter what we do in life, no matter what our job, it's ALWAYS possible to be the star, Leave em' laughin' or cryin' in the aisles, as long as our Imagination lets us believe we're the stars of the show. Just as Mickey says to close out the night at Fantasmic "Some Imagination, huh?"


A sign that types out "This is a studio, in a real place" should be as unwelcome by some of you "fans" as a sign at Epcot that says "This is a series of Buildings, all related to each other, and exist firmly in this world". Or a sign at Magic Kingdom that says "These are all just rides and shows. Adventureland is clearly not a faraway jungle, as you can see a Castle and Tomorrowland from here. Stop imagining things."

That's not what Magic Kingdom is. That's not what Epcot is. And that isn't what studios is. It's a THEME PARK, not just a park.

I can't think of a better metaphor than of when Imagineers at Wed went to Walt and said "We can't build the Matterhorn. Why would you see a Swiss Mountain on Main Street, which is supposed to be Missouri at the turn of the century."

The answer of why Walt said yes, why the Matterhorn still fits in perfectly for some 50 odd years now, is that it's Disneyland. Turn of the Century Missouri and a Swiss Mountain have nothing to do with each other, EXCEPT...Both of them are far reaching adventures that lie in the heart of everyone's fantasies. And that's what makes Disneyland their home. Living Fantasies, the theme of Disneyland. Right there. Take a picture.

So next time you step into a Disney Park, ye complainers of Studios, know this:

You can only get from the Park, what you take in with you.

Turn off your Imagination at the gate if you want, but it's that theme of wanting to take center stage and make it big will continue to bring that busy L.A. Night on the freeway...That playset Under Andy's Bed...That Ewok Village on a cold night on Endor...That balcony with two old hecklers...The hangar in Casablanca where too crazy mixed up people say goodbye...that old deserted hotel at the end of Sunset Blvd. in the 1940's...and the Hollywood that never was, all fit together just perfectly to me.
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Holy Omnimover, Travis....You win. :lol::sohappy: Wonderfully and well said. It's still a bit rough to make out, but when told like this, the idea of The Studios as a park works, and works quite well. The magic overlapping part, especially. I liked how you tied it into the WED Story for DL. Made it more relatable.

Well done, my friend!:sohappy: You have me convinced...
 
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disneysroyal411

New Member
EpcotServo said:
Not for me.


KINGDOMS, COMMUNITIES, AND A STUDIO


~A letter to WDW Magic and all Disney Fans~

By EpcotServo

Foreward by The Muppets



"When somebody out there loves you, stands up and hollers for 'More!', that's when you've found a home at the Magic Store."



The Studios is just like EPCOT, a park with a central theme and character that outlines, encompasses, and brings together many different things into a community. Just as Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, Disneyland, and Tokyo Disneysea do. Just as MK is a "Kingdom" and EPCOT a "Community", the park is a "Studio", wherein everything inside is dedicated to carrying out the THEME of the park (Hence why they are called-Theme Parks) Magic Kingdom's theme is Reliving Fantasy. EPCOT is about bettering yourself, and the world around you, by understating it. Animal Kingdom is about Man's love for Animals, and how it can affect them for the better. DisneySea is about the soul of and spirit of adventure, as reflected by the boundless sea. Studios is about just as base an instinct, being the star, entertainment. Just as the other themes Imagineering has devolped, every human born will eventually have that moment that they want to join the stage, meet the men and women on the silver screen, and entertain the world to the thrill of applause.

At Magic Kingdom, timeless adventures-From soaring through space or over Neverland, let you live the fantasies of your childhood.

At Epcot, experiences, foreign sights and smells, and the thrill of what might be learned, or what might be possible drives the excitement of the theme.

At Animal Kingdom you meet face-to-face with Animals as told through you're entire life. From meeting Mickey with a big smile, to staring with bated breath on the plains of Africa-as a Lion looks right at you, with no barriers whatsoever. All of these experiences can be found within the depths of Man's love for the Animals around us, be they in the house, or half the world away. And by experiencing these adventures from every stage of life, we can better prepare ourselves for the last task: Conservation.

At DisneySea, every corner, every pathway is designed to let you know there's something better just a journey away. That from the gateway of the Ocean, our legends, myths, and adventures await. And as long as you continue that travel, rewards await!

And at the Studios, just as these other parks do, all of these many different tales, instincts, and fantasies, all random, are brought together to deliver the theme. At studios every attraction, every show, every street, every citizen of Hollywood, is designed to bring us that dream on Entertaining those around us. From Being a Toy in Andy's Toybox, rushing to play before he comes home. To being part of that theater we all remember, while Kermit tries to contain the chaos that always ensue. Cheering on an unkown as they sing their heart out. Finding that autograph of your favorite actor tucked away in an old shop. To rushing through the L.A. Night in a Limo like you've always dreamed with your mind sky-high on Rock N Roll and being treated like a VIP by a famous Rock Band. To stepping into Bergis Meredith's or William Shatner's shoes to step onto an elevator and into The Twilight Zone.

And just as The natural world, the foreign lands, and the stunning architecture are the backdrops, the "Cement" that holds these far reaching adventures the exploration of these themes will take us too is held together at Animal Kingdom, DisneySea, and EPCOT respectively do, the allure of Hollywood and the Working studio provides this "cement" for these adventures to take place. When one thinks of Entertainment, one thinks about the Hollywood that never was-but always will be, and the sweat n' grease, makeup n' wardrobe, Fire n' water world of a Studio Backlot.

So as I've tried to literate in this explanation and examination of Walt Disney Imagineering and the Theme Parks, is that the idea that Studios, Animal Kingdom, or any park I've mentioned is any less than the others in true principal is an outright mistruth, and common slander.

WDI's theme parks in my formative argument, have-on the whole been misrepresented in these arguments and wholly misunderstood. You can't put "More themeing on it" as Joe Rhode tried to explain on the tenth anniversary of Animal Kingdom. Theme is a base concept. From that you tell stories. From there you add plot and experience. From that, you add detail. In turn, those details and those stories culminate in a successful day in a Disney Park, a day in which the theme has been explored with you. At Kingdom it's the feeling of having an amazing dream, waking up the happier. At Epcot, it's the feeling of knowing more about where we are, what's around us, and where we're going. At DisneySea it's the feeling of returning to port-Having seen amazing things and bringing back incredible legends and tales to tell for the rest of our life. At Animal Kingdom, it's knowing that, even faced with great threat, love conquers all, and that we have to work everyday, from the plains of Africa, to the heights of the himalayas, and our own backyard- to better our part of the relationship with our friends, the Animals that share our world. And at Studios, that no matter what we do in life, no matter what our job, it's ALWAYS possible to be the star, Leave em' laughin' or cryin' in the aisles, as long as our Imagination lets us believe we're the stars of the show. Just as Mickey says to close out the night at Fantasmic "Some Imagination, huh?"


A sign that types out "This is a studio, in a real place" should be as unwelcome by some of you "fans" as a sign at Epcot that says "This is a series of Buildings, all related to each other, and exist firmly in this world". Or a sign at Magic Kingdom that says "These are all just rides and shows. Adventureland is clearly not a faraway jungle, as you can see a Castle and Tomorrowland from here. Stop imagining things."

That's not what Magic Kingdom is. That's not what Epcot is. And that isn't what studios is. It's a THEME PARK, not just a park.

I can't think of a better metaphor than of when Imagineers at Wed went to Walt and said "We can't build the Matterhorn. Why would you see a Swiss Mountain on Main Street, which is supposed to be Missouri at the turn of the century."

The answer of why Walt said yes, why the Matterhorn still fits in perfectly for some 50 odd years now, is that it's Disneyland. Turn of the Century Missouri and a Swiss Mountain have nothing to do with each other, EXCEPT...Both of them are far reaching adventures that lie in the heart of everyone's fantasies. And that's what makes Disneyland their home. Living Fantasies, the theme of Disneyland. Right there. Take a picture.

So next time you step into a Disney Park, ye complainers of Studios, know this:

You can only get from the Park, what you take in with you.

Turn off your Imagination at the gate if you want, but it's that theme of wanting to take center stage and make it big that will continue to bring that busy L.A. Night on the freeway...That playset Under Andy's Bed...That Ewok Village on a cold night on Endor...That balcony with two old hecklers...The hangar in Casablanca where too crazy mixed up people say goodbye...that old deserted hotel at the end of Sunset Blvd. in the 1940's...and the Hollywood that never was, all fit together just perfectly to me.
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I'm inspired. No lie. No sarcasm. I swear. :sohappy:
 
DarthGrady

DarthGrady

Active Member
EpcotServo said:
Not for me.


KINGDOMS, COMMUNITIES, AND A STUDIO


~A letter to WDW Magic and all Disney Fans~

By EpcotServo

Foreward by The Muppets



"When somebody out there loves you, stands up and hollers for 'More!', that's when you've found a home at the Magic Store."



The Studios is just like EPCOT, a park with a central theme and character that outlines, encompasses, and brings together many different things into a community. Just as Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, Disneyland, and Tokyo Disneysea do. Just as MK is a "Kingdom" and EPCOT a "Community", the park is a "Studio", wherein everything inside is dedicated to carrying out the THEME of the park (Hence why they are called-Theme Parks) Magic Kingdom's theme is Reliving Fantasy. EPCOT is about bettering yourself, and the world around you, by understating it. Animal Kingdom is about Man's love for Animals, and how it can affect them for the better. DisneySea is about the soul of and spirit of adventure, as reflected by the boundless sea. Studios is about just as base an instinct, being the star, entertainment. Just as the other themes Imagineering has devolped, every human born will eventually have that moment that they want to join the stage, meet the men and women on the silver screen, and entertain the world to the thrill of applause.

At Magic Kingdom, timeless adventures-From soaring through space or over Neverland, let you live the fantasies of your childhood.

At Epcot, experiences, foreign sights and smells, and the thrill of what might be learned, or what might be possible drives the excitement of the theme.

At Animal Kingdom you meet face-to-face with Animals as told through you're entire life. From meeting Mickey with a big smile, to staring with bated breath on the plains of Africa-as a Lion looks right at you, with no barriers whatsoever. All of these experiences can be found within the depths of Man's love for the Animals around us, be they in the house, or half the world away. And by experiencing these adventures from every stage of life, we can better prepare ourselves for the last task: Conservation.

At DisneySea, every corner, every pathway is designed to let you know there's something better just a journey away. That from the gateway of the Ocean, our legends, myths, and adventures await. And as long as you continue that travel, rewards await!

And at the Studios, just as these other parks do, all of these many different tales, instincts, and fantasies, all random, are brought together to deliver the theme. At studios every attraction, every show, every street, every citizen of Hollywood, is designed to bring us that dream on Entertaining those around us. From Being a Toy in Andy's Toybox, rushing to play before he comes home. To being part of that theater we all remember, while Kermit tries to contain the chaos that always ensue. Cheering on an unkown as they sing their heart out. Finding that autograph of your favorite actor tucked away in an old shop. To rushing through the L.A. Night in a Limo like you've always dreamed with your mind sky-high on Rock N Roll and being treated like a VIP by a famous Rock Band. To stepping into Bergis Meredith's or William Shatner's shoes to step onto an elevator and into The Twilight Zone.

And just as The natural world, the foreign lands, and the stunning architecture are the backdrops, the "Cement" that holds these far reaching adventures the exploration of these themes will take us too is held together at Animal Kingdom, DisneySea, and EPCOT respectively do, the allure of Hollywood and the Working studio provides this "cement" for these adventures to take place. When one thinks of Entertainment, one thinks about the Hollywood that never was-but always will be, and the sweat n' grease, makeup n' wardrobe, Fire n' water world of a Studio Backlot.

So as I've tried to literate in this explanation and examination of Walt Disney Imagineering and the Theme Parks, is that the idea that Studios, Animal Kingdom, or any park I've mentioned is any less than the others in true principal is an outright mistruth, and common slander.

WDI's theme parks in my formative argument, have-on the whole been misrepresented in these arguments and wholly misunderstood. You can't put "More themeing on it" as Joe Rhode tried to explain on the tenth anniversary of Animal Kingdom. Theme is a base concept. From that you tell stories. From there you add plot and experience. From that, you add detail. In turn, those details and those stories culminate in a successful day in a Disney Park, a day in which the theme has been explored with you. At Kingdom it's the feeling of having an amazing dream, waking up the happier. At Epcot, it's the feeling of knowing more about where we are, what's around us, and where we're going. At DisneySea it's the feeling of returning to port-Having seen amazing things and bringing back incredible legends and tales to tell for the rest of our life. At Animal Kingdom, it's knowing that, even faced with great threat, love conquers all, and that we have to work everyday, from the plains of Africa, to the heights of the himalayas, and our own backyard- to better our part of the relationship with our friends, the Animals that share our world. And at Studios, that no matter what we do in life, no matter what our job, it's ALWAYS possible to be the star, Leave em' laughin' or cryin' in the aisles, as long as our Imagination lets us believe we're the stars of the show. Just as Mickey says to close out the night at Fantasmic "Some Imagination, huh?"


A sign that types out "This is a studio, in a real place" should be as unwelcome by some of you "fans" as a sign at Epcot that says "This is a series of Buildings, all related to each other, and exist firmly in this world". Or a sign at Magic Kingdom that says "These are all just rides and shows. Adventureland is clearly not a faraway jungle, as you can see a Castle and Tomorrowland from here. Stop imagining things."

That's not what Magic Kingdom is. That's not what Epcot is. And that isn't what studios is. It's a THEME PARK, not just a park.

I can't think of a better metaphor than of when Imagineers at Wed went to Walt and said "We can't build the Matterhorn. Why would you see a Swiss Mountain on Main Street, which is supposed to be Missouri at the turn of the century."

The answer of why Walt said yes, why the Matterhorn still fits in perfectly for some 50 odd years now, is that it's Disneyland. Turn of the Century Missouri and a Swiss Mountain have nothing to do with each other, EXCEPT...Both of them are far reaching adventures that lie in the heart of everyone's fantasies. And that's what makes Disneyland their home. Living Fantasies, the theme of Disneyland. Right there. Take a picture.

So next time you step into a Disney Park, ye complainers of Studios, know this:

You can only get from the Park, what you take in with you.

Turn off your Imagination at the gate if you want, but it's that theme of wanting to take center stage and make it big that will continue to bring that busy L.A. Night on the freeway...That playset Under Andy's Bed...That Ewok Village on a cold night on Endor...That balcony with two old hecklers...The hangar in Casablanca where too crazy mixed up people say goodbye...that old deserted hotel at the end of Sunset Blvd. in the 1940's...and the Hollywood that never was, all fit together just perfectly to me.
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Excellent posting!
 
wdwbeepbop

wdwbeepbop

Member
EpcotServo said:
Not for me.


KINGDOMS, COMMUNITIES, AND A STUDIO


~A letter to WDW Magic and all Disney Fans~

By EpcotServo

Foreward by The Muppets



"When somebody out there loves you, stands up and hollers for 'More!', that's when you've found a home at the Magic Store."



The Studios is just like EPCOT, a park with a central theme and character that outlines, encompasses, and brings together many different things into a community. Just as Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, Disneyland, and Tokyo Disneysea do. Just as MK is a "Kingdom" and EPCOT a "Community", the park is a "Studio", wherein everything inside is dedicated to carrying out the THEME of the park (Hence why they are called-Theme Parks) Magic Kingdom's theme is Reliving Fantasy. EPCOT is about bettering yourself, and the world around you, by understating it. Animal Kingdom is about Man's love for Animals, and how it can affect them for the better. DisneySea is about the soul of and spirit of adventure, as reflected by the boundless sea. Studios is about just as base an instinct, being the star, entertainment. Just as the other themes Imagineering has devolped, every human born will eventually have that moment that they want to join the stage, meet the men and women on the silver screen, and entertain the world to the thrill of applause.

At Magic Kingdom, timeless adventures-From soaring through space or over Neverland, let you live the fantasies of your childhood.

At Epcot, experiences, foreign sights and smells, and the thrill of what might be learned, or what might be possible drives the excitement of the theme.

At Animal Kingdom you meet face-to-face with Animals as told through you're entire life. From meeting Mickey with a big smile, to staring with bated breath on the plains of Africa-as a Lion looks right at you, with no barriers whatsoever. All of these experiences can be found within the depths of Man's love for the Animals around us, be they in the house, or half the world away. And by experiencing these adventures from every stage of life, we can better prepare ourselves for the last task: Conservation.

At DisneySea, every corner, every pathway is designed to let you know there's something better just a journey away. That from the gateway of the Ocean, our legends, myths, and adventures await. And as long as you continue that travel, rewards await!

And at the Studios, just as these other parks do, all of these many different tales, instincts, and fantasies, all random, are brought together to deliver the theme. At studios every attraction, every show, every street, every citizen of Hollywood, is designed to bring us that dream on Entertaining those around us. From Being a Toy in Andy's Toybox, rushing to play before he comes home. To being part of that theater we all remember, while Kermit tries to contain the chaos that always ensue. Cheering on an unkown as they sing their heart out. Finding that autograph of your favorite actor tucked away in an old shop. To rushing through the L.A. Night in a Limo like you've always dreamed with your mind sky-high on Rock N Roll and being treated like a VIP by a famous Rock Band. To stepping into Bergis Meredith's or William Shatner's shoes to step onto an elevator and into The Twilight Zone.

And just as The natural world, the foreign lands, and the stunning architecture are the backdrops, the "Cement" that holds these far reaching adventures the exploration of these themes will take us too is held together at Animal Kingdom, DisneySea, and EPCOT respectively do, the allure of Hollywood and the Working studio provides this "cement" for these adventures to take place. When one thinks of Entertainment, one thinks about the Hollywood that never was-but always will be, and the sweat n' grease, makeup n' wardrobe, Fire n' water world of a Studio Backlot.

So as I've tried to literate in this explanation and examination of Walt Disney Imagineering and the Theme Parks, is that the idea that Studios, Animal Kingdom, or any park I've mentioned is any less than the others in true principal is an outright mistruth, and common slander.

WDI's theme parks in my formative argument, have-on the whole been misrepresented in these arguments and wholly misunderstood. You can't put "More themeing on it" as Joe Rhode tried to explain on the tenth anniversary of Animal Kingdom. Theme is a base concept. From that you tell stories. From there you add plot and experience. From that, you add detail. In turn, those details and those stories culminate in a successful day in a Disney Park, a day in which the theme has been explored with you. At Kingdom it's the feeling of having an amazing dream, waking up the happier. At Epcot, it's the feeling of knowing more about where we are, what's around us, and where we're going. At DisneySea it's the feeling of returning to port-Having seen amazing things and bringing back incredible legends and tales to tell for the rest of our life. At Animal Kingdom, it's knowing that, even faced with great threat, love conquers all, and that we have to work everyday, from the plains of Africa, to the heights of the himalayas, and our own backyard- to better our part of the relationship with our friends, the Animals that share our world. And at Studios, that no matter what we do in life, no matter what our job, it's ALWAYS possible to be the star, Leave em' laughin' or cryin' in the aisles, as long as our Imagination lets us believe we're the stars of the show. Just as Mickey says to close out the night at Fantasmic "Some Imagination, huh?"


A sign that types out "This is a studio, in a real place" should be as unwelcome by some of you "fans" as a sign at Epcot that says "This is a series of Buildings, all related to each other, and exist firmly in this world". Or a sign at Magic Kingdom that says "These are all just rides and shows. Adventureland is clearly not a faraway jungle, as you can see a Castle and Tomorrowland from here. Stop imagining things."

That's not what Magic Kingdom is. That's not what Epcot is. And that isn't what studios is. It's a THEME PARK, not just a park.

I can't think of a better metaphor than of when Imagineers at Wed went to Walt and said "We can't build the Matterhorn. Why would you see a Swiss Mountain on Main Street, which is supposed to be Missouri at the turn of the century."

The answer of why Walt said yes, why the Matterhorn still fits in perfectly for some 50 odd years now, is that it's Disneyland. Turn of the Century Missouri and a Swiss Mountain have nothing to do with each other, EXCEPT...Both of them are far reaching adventures that lie in the heart of everyone's fantasies. And that's what makes Disneyland their home. Living Fantasies, the theme of Disneyland. Right there. Take a picture.

So next time you step into a Disney Park, ye complainers of Studios, know this:

You can only get from the Park, what you take in with you.

Turn off your Imagination at the gate if you want, but it's that theme of wanting to take center stage and make it big that will continue to bring that busy L.A. Night on the freeway...That playset Under Andy's Bed...That Ewok Village on a cold night on Endor...That balcony with two old hecklers...The hangar in Casablanca where too crazy mixed up people say goodbye...that old deserted hotel at the end of Sunset Blvd. in the 1940's...and the Hollywood that never was, all fit together just perfectly to me.
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Have you found a publisher yet? That could make anyone really understand why people are so crazy about Disney
 
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billwhseng

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I have been reading this message board for years, and never really felt the need to write, as I have always come here for new inforamation and tips for my next visit. But I have to write and say that that post was one of the best writen posts I have seen on this site, and it could not be more accurate. It's what Disney is all about, and the reason that most of us go every year and look forward to our next visit from the second we walk out of the gate and return to reality. Only 13 more days until I get to live the dream again! :sohappy:
 
Toveck

Toveck

Member
EpcotServo said:
Not for me.


KINGDOMS, COMMUNITIES, AND A STUDIO


~A letter to WDW Magic and all Disney Fans~

By EpcotServo

Foreward by The Muppets



"When somebody out there loves you, stands up and hollers for 'More!', that's when you've found a home at the Magic Store."



The Studios is just like EPCOT, a park with a central theme and character that outlines, encompasses, and brings together many different things into a community. Just as Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, Disneyland, and Tokyo Disneysea do. Just as MK is a "Kingdom" and EPCOT a "Community", the park is a "Studio", wherein everything inside is dedicated to carrying out the THEME of the park (Hence why they are called-Theme Parks) Magic Kingdom's theme is Reliving Fantasy. EPCOT is about bettering yourself, and the world around you, by understating it. Animal Kingdom is about Man's love for Animals, and how it can affect them for the better. DisneySea is about the soul of and spirit of adventure, as reflected by the boundless sea. Studios is about just as base an instinct, being the star, entertainment. Just as the other themes Imagineering has devolped, every human born will eventually have that moment that they want to join the stage, meet the men and women on the silver screen, and entertain the world to the thrill of applause.

At Magic Kingdom, timeless adventures-From soaring through space or over Neverland, let you live the fantasies of your childhood.

At Epcot, experiences, foreign sights and smells, and the thrill of what might be learned, or what might be possible drives the excitement of the theme.

At Animal Kingdom you meet face-to-face with Animals as told through you're entire life. From meeting Mickey with a big smile, to staring with bated breath on the plains of Africa-as a Lion looks right at you, with no barriers whatsoever. All of these experiences can be found within the depths of Man's love for the Animals around us, be they in the house, or half the world away. And by experiencing these adventures from every stage of life, we can better prepare ourselves for the last task: Conservation.

At DisneySea, every corner, every pathway is designed to let you know there's something better just a journey away. That from the gateway of the Ocean, our legends, myths, and adventures await. And as long as you continue that travel, rewards await!

And at the Studios, just as these other parks do, all of these many different tales, instincts, and fantasies, all random, are brought together to deliver the theme. At studios every attraction, every show, every street, every citizen of Hollywood, is designed to bring us that dream on Entertaining those around us. From Being a Toy in Andy's Toybox, rushing to play before he comes home. To being part of that theater we all remember, while Kermit tries to contain the chaos that always ensue. Cheering on an unkown as they sing their heart out. Finding that autograph of your favorite actor tucked away in an old shop. To rushing through the L.A. Night in a Limo like you've always dreamed with your mind sky-high on Rock N Roll and being treated like a VIP by a famous Rock Band. To stepping into Bergis Meredith's or William Shatner's shoes to step onto an elevator and into The Twilight Zone.

And just as The natural world, the foreign lands, and the stunning architecture are the backdrops, the "Cement" that holds these far reaching adventures the exploration of these themes will take us too is held together at Animal Kingdom, DisneySea, and EPCOT respectively do, the allure of Hollywood and the Working studio provides this "cement" for these adventures to take place. When one thinks of Entertainment, one thinks about the Hollywood that never was-but always will be, and the sweat n' grease, makeup n' wardrobe, Fire n' water world of a Studio Backlot.

So as I've tried to literate in this explanation and examination of Walt Disney Imagineering and the Theme Parks, is that the idea that Studios, Animal Kingdom, or any park I've mentioned is any less than the others in true principal is an outright mistruth, and common slander.

WDI's theme parks in my formative argument, have-on the whole been misrepresented in these arguments and wholly misunderstood. You can't put "More themeing on it" as Joe Rhode tried to explain on the tenth anniversary of Animal Kingdom. Theme is a base concept. From that you tell stories. From there you add plot and experience. From that, you add detail. In turn, those details and those stories culminate in a successful day in a Disney Park, a day in which the theme has been explored with you. At Kingdom it's the feeling of having an amazing dream, waking up the happier. At Epcot, it's the feeling of knowing more about where we are, what's around us, and where we're going. At DisneySea it's the feeling of returning to port-Having seen amazing things and bringing back incredible legends and tales to tell for the rest of our life. At Animal Kingdom, it's knowing that, even faced with great threat, love conquers all, and that we have to work everyday, from the plains of Africa, to the heights of the himalayas, and our own backyard- to better our part of the relationship with our friends, the Animals that share our world. And at Studios, that no matter what we do in life, no matter what our job, it's ALWAYS possible to be the star, Leave em' laughin' or cryin' in the aisles, as long as our Imagination lets us believe we're the stars of the show. Just as Mickey says to close out the night at Fantasmic "Some Imagination, huh?"


A sign that types out "This is a studio, in a real place" should be as unwelcome by some of you "fans" as a sign at Epcot that says "This is a series of Buildings, all related to each other, and exist firmly in this world". Or a sign at Magic Kingdom that says "These are all just rides and shows. Adventureland is clearly not a faraway jungle, as you can see a Castle and Tomorrowland from here. Stop imagining things."

That's not what Magic Kingdom is. That's not what Epcot is. And that isn't what studios is. It's a THEME PARK, not just a park.

I can't think of a better metaphor than of when Imagineers at Wed went to Walt and said "We can't build the Matterhorn. Why would you see a Swiss Mountain on Main Street, which is supposed to be Missouri at the turn of the century."

The answer of why Walt said yes, why the Matterhorn still fits in perfectly for some 50 odd years now, is that it's Disneyland. Turn of the Century Missouri and a Swiss Mountain have nothing to do with each other, EXCEPT...Both of them are far reaching adventures that lie in the heart of everyone's fantasies. And that's what makes Disneyland their home. Living Fantasies, the theme of Disneyland. Right there. Take a picture.

So next time you step into a Disney Park, ye complainers of Studios, know this:

You can only get from the Park, what you take in with you.

Turn off your Imagination at the gate if you want, but it's that theme of wanting to take center stage and make it big that will continue to bring that busy L.A. Night on the freeway...That playset Under Andy's Bed...That Ewok Village on a cold night on Endor...That balcony with two old hecklers...The hangar in Casablanca where too crazy mixed up people say goodbye...that old deserted hotel at the end of Sunset Blvd. in the 1940's...and the Hollywood that never was, all fit together just perfectly to me.
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Bravo! :sohappy:
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
On this week's Magical Definition Podcast Jim Hill mentioned that there are supposedly three big announcements for Walt Disney World that are going to be made at the D23 convention. Fantasyland is one of them, Star Tours 2.0 is another and the last one he mentioned was a new film for Soarin... (That's not an elipses, those are grains of salt)
 
EPCOTPluto

EPCOTPluto

Well-Known Member
EpcotServo said:
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Oh, the many ways that I HATE that wall.

No interaction between lines, nothing else to see when using Fastpass, the Soarin' sign at the end it somewhat blocked -

Whose idea was it to make such a wall? :mad::lol:

RSoxNo1 said:
Fantasyland is one of them, Star Tours 2.0 is another and the last one he mentioned was a new film for Soarin...
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It is Jim Hill after all. I will wait & see...
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
First off, great post EE. The Studios isn't my favorite park, but the dedication plaque is fantastic, and really ties together the theme
Hollywood Studios Dedication Plaque] The World you have entered was created by The Walt Disney Company and is dedicated to Hollywood - not a place on the map said:
Haven't heard of these yet...

So anyone knows how the interactive queue will be?

And how will they increase the capacity of PP'sF? (Wish this is confirmed...)

:shrug:
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The interactive queue was a work order filed on Space Mountain, there hasn't been much info about it, but it's speculated it would be similar to what's in Soarin'. As for increasing the capacity on Peter Pan, they widened the seats in Disneyland, so this would be the likely approach. I'm guessing someone out there could confirm whether or not the current track structure could support the added weight of widening the seats or better yet, adding a second row. I'm guessing the former is more likely.
 
EPCOTPluto

EPCOTPluto

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RSoxNo1 said:
The interactive queue was a work order filed on Space Mountain, there hasn't been much info about it, but it's speculated it would be similar to what's in Soarin'.
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Interesting... :)

RSoxNo1 said:
As for increasing the capacity on Peter Pan, they widened the seats in Disneyland, so this would be the likely approach. I'm guessing someone out there could confirm whether or not the current track structure could support the added weight of widening the seats or better yet, adding a second row. I'm guessing the former is more likely.
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Widen seats would also make sense, but a second row? I rather the previous option.
 
scpergj

scpergj

Well-Known Member
EpcotServo said:
Not for me.


KINGDOMS, COMMUNITIES, AND A STUDIO


~A letter to WDW Magic and all Disney Fans~

By EpcotServo

Foreward by The Muppets

...

You can only get from the Park, what you take in with you.

Turn off your Imagination at the gate if you want, but it's that theme of wanting to take center stage and make it big that will continue to bring that busy L.A. Night on the freeway...That playset Under Andy's Bed...That Ewok Village on a cold night on Endor...That balcony with two old hecklers...The hangar in Casablanca where too crazy mixed up people say goodbye...that old deserted hotel at the end of Sunset Blvd. in the 1940's...and the Hollywood that never was, all fit together just perfectly to me.
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Epic.

Game. Set. Match.
 

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