Upcoming DHS closings ...

Cardinals314

Active Member
Some of us consider Quality and attention to detail to be what makes something Disney. you can't simply slap Disney-owned IP like Mouse ears, Princesses etc. on something and say it's Disney and Disney used to know that and Universal gets that with WWoHP.


I don't like the Disney hat either. If you read my comment thoroughly, you would have known that. I was just stating why Disney considers leaving the hat where it is.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
You're inferring I want the hat. You're wrong. Just making an observation about what Disney is doing and my impression of the likely result. You could very well be right. You could very well be wrong. You'll see. :) Doesn't matter to me either way. My interest is in enjoying the parks later this fall.

I didn't infer anything about your desire to have the hat or not - you said "I'm guessing that the hat isn't going anywhere anytime soon".

And I simply pointed out that your argument is not supported by fact:

FACT: Various known insiders have been stating for quite some time it was on it's way out - people that have proven to be accurate many times in the past.

FACT: Disney has very recently eliminated the hat from their newest in-room video feed showing off the parks, which generally only happens when something is going to be removed shortly.

We've been through this before with the Big Ugly Wand. I see you are new here, which is great - but just keep in mind that some of us have been here a very long time and aren't just posting random thoughts but informed opinions - but like I said, you'll see. :)
 

culturenthrills

Well-Known Member
Those last few months before the wand was removed were brutal. Constant back and forth between those in the know and Fanbois who constantly insisted the wand was going nowhere. Today the wand is gone and fading from memory Spaceship Earth looks splendid (Wish I could say the same about the inside) and you would never know it was there unless you were there when it was up. In a few years time the hat will just be a bad memory occasionally joked about and the timeless view up Hollywood Boulevard will be restored and future visitors will never realize there was ever a giant hat there.


I remember that back and forth. That was hilarious. And sorta sad. The BAH is going it is just a matter of when. Can we have an event where we get to destroy it with sledgehammers? :mad::D
 

Captain Neo

Well-Known Member
Those last few months before the wand was removed were brutal. Constant back and forth between those in the know and Fanbois who constantly insisted the wand was going nowhere. Today the wand is gone and fading from memory Spaceship Earth looks splendid (Wish I could say the same about the inside) and you would never know it was there unless you were there when it was up. In a few years time the hat will just be a bad memory occasionally joked about and the timeless view up Hollywood Boulevard will be restored and future visitors will never realize there was ever a giant hat there.

The difference is Spirit had already confirmed the want was being removed 6 months earlier so should have been no back and forth other than a couple of idiots. However, with the hat good luck finding any insider who will tell you the hat is being removed because it does not seem at all likely. The Wand also (I believe) had some structural integrity concerns since it was only meant to be temporary and was also an added expense to maintain so there was good justification to remove it. I can't remember but didn't Siemens end up paying for the demolition as well?
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
I didn't infer anything about your desire to have the hat or not - you said "I'm guessing that the hat isn't going anywhere anytime soon".

And I simply pointed out that your argument is not supported by fact:

FACT: Various known insiders have been stating for quite some time it was on it's way out - people that have proven to be accurate many times in the past.

FACT: Disney has very recently eliminated the hat from their newest in-room video feed showing off the parks, which generally only happens when something is going to be removed shortly.

We've been through this before with the Big Ugly Wand. I see you are new here, which is great - but just keep in mind that some of us have been here a very long time and aren't just posting random thoughts but informed opinions - but like I said, you'll see. :)

Okay, you win. I'm moving on beyond The Hat.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
The difference is Spirit had already confirmed the want was being removed 6 months earlier so should have been no back and forth other than a couple of idiots. However, with the hat good luck finding any insider who will tell you the hat is being removed because it does not seem at all likely. The Wand also (I believe) had some structural integrity concerns since it was only meant to be temporary and was also an added expense to maintain so there was good justification to remove it. I can't remember but didn't Siemens end up paying for the demolition as well?
The wand was fine structurally. It was Siemens who didn't like it. Despite the constant rumours I only found it was dated to come down two weeks before the walls went up. No reason that hats removal will be known any time sooner. The hats time is finite. It just needs a department to pay for it.
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
I would not believe too much of what you read on these boards.

There's a lot of junk on these boards because there's a lot of junk on the internet. But if you hang out here long enough, you'll figure out who to believe and who to ignore. Once you have separated the actual insiders from the trolls and wannabes, this is THE place to get your Disney World info. This is where most of the news breaks. You just have to be able to recognize it when it does.
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
The wand was fine structurally. It was Siemens who didn't like it. Despite the constant rumours I only found it was dated to come down two weeks before the walls went up. No reason that hats removal will be known any time sooner. The hats time is finite. It just needs a department to pay for it.

Wouldnt it be included though in the main budget for the parks upcoming changes of sparkle and additions?
This also seemed to be the issue with norways waterfall, no department wanted to pay for it. It seems like everything is down to department squabbles now instead of as a whole, like it use to be or seemed to anyway.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Wouldnt it be included though in the main budget for the parks upcoming changes of sparkle and additions?
This also seemed to be the issue with norways waterfall, no department wanted to pay for it. It seems like everything is down to department squabbles now instead of as a whole, like it kind of use to be.
Isn't that true everywhere, private and public? With constant cuts coming from on high everywhere, departments within Disney, government, really everywhere are becoming much nastier toward spending "their" limited money. I certainly see that where I work. No money for new pens and printer ink but the administrators are already planning their new multi-million dollar expansion with new offices. For themselves. I'll continue to teach in my ancient lab with black mold. And Norway will keep its black mold. And pirates. But I'm sure if there were a mold problem at TDO, it'd get fixed.
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
Isn't that true everywhere, private and public? With constant cuts coming from on high everywhere, departments within Disney, government, really everywhere are becoming much nastier toward spending "their" limited money. I certainly see that where I work. No money for new pens and printer ink but the administrators are already planning their new multi-million dollar expansion with new offices. For themselves. I'll continue to teach in my ancient lab with black mold. And Norway will keep its black mold. And pirates. But I'm sure if there were a mold problem at TDO, it'd get fixed.

Makes sense, just thought it might be included in the DHS revamp package.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
Makes sense, just thought it might be included in the DHS revamp package.
That's where my hopes lie too! What department would possibly want to pay to clean up somebody else's mess? The BAH was paid for from the centenary budget, without a budget allocated to its removal. It's now stuck in the Twilight Zone. The unit that paid for its erection is gone, the hat is still there. Hope now rests with a park-wide beautification budget, with a general re-allocation of the hub.


At least the Wand was part of another structure. Siemens wanted SSE - but they wanted the majestic version, not the Vegas neon light pole version.
 

Captain Neo

Well-Known Member
The wand was fine structurally. It was Siemens who didn't like it. Despite the constant rumours I only found it was dated to come down two weeks before the walls went up. No reason that hats removal will be known any time sooner. The hats time is finite. It just needs a department to pay for it.

Unfortunately Micechat did something to their forums otherwise I would dig up @WDW1974 thread where he said the wand was being removed and that was a good 6 months before the walls went up. He was the first to report.

But like you said Siemens didn't like the wand but at DMGM who from the outside is going to tell Disney to get rid of it?
 

SirLink

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately Micechat did something to their forums otherwise I would dig up @WDW1974 thread where he said the wand was being removed and that was a good 6 months before the walls went up. He was the first to report.

But like you said Siemens didn't like the wand but at DMGM who from the outside is going to tell Disney to get rid of it?

I don't know if there is any stock in it - but one would imagine that Operations would especially as they will be removing attractions - they need better visibility of GMR.
 

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom