Unpopular opinions about the parks?

[Twirlnhurl]

My 'hot take': I'd much rather WDW fix their attractions and restore the quality they USED to have...including the yeti... before they go out and build overpriced IP rides like Guardians of the Galaxy.

To clarify my initial point about Yeti not being very important to fix: I think maintenance and show quality are extremely important. But I would have the yeti be very low on the list of things to fix, even if we were limiting out maintenance priorities to show elements in Expedition Everest.

Broken effects in Everest that add more to the experience than the yeti include:
- The steam effect in the train at load
- The fog effect higher up the mountain before the twisted track

And I do want to display my credentials a bit regarding the yeti: I went on the ride dozens of times (maybe around 100 times?) prior to the yeti going into perminant B mode.

I was in high school and had just gotten my first WDW annual pass about six months before Everest opened. At the time, my friend group would go to the parks to primarily do the thrill rides. So after Everest opened, we would rope drop DAK and do a couple of laps on the ride while waiting for our fastpass window, and once the Ling got a little longer, would lap the ride in the singles line. We would typically do 8-10 rides on Everest per visit. (As an aside, we would do the same with Mission: Space, before the Green Team version of the ride opened, it had a single rider line and we would do a lap every 15 minutes!)

Anyway, I guess I am saying that my opinion of the yeti comes from having experienced the ride many, many times with it working and afterwords. Seeing it a video is not the same thing as seeing it in the ride.

 

[DisneyFanatic12]

To clarify my initial point about Yeti not being very important to fix: I think maintenance and show quality are extremely important. But I would have the yeti be very low on the list of things to fix, even if we were limiting out maintenance priorities to show elements in Expedition Everest.

Broken effects in Everest that add more to the experience than the yeti include:
- The steam effect in the train at load
- The fog effect higher up the mountain before the twisted track

And I do want to display my credentials a bit regarding the yeti: I went on the ride dozens of times (maybe around 100 times?) prior to the yeti going into perminant B mode.

I was in high school and had just gotten my first WDW annual pass about six months before Everest opened. At the time, my friend group would go to the parks to primarily do the thrill rides. So after Everest opened, we would rope drop DAK and do a couple of laps on the ride while waiting for our fastpass window, and once the Ling got a little longer, would lap the ride in the singles line. We would typically do 8-10 rides on Everest per visit. (As an aside, we would do the same with Mission: Space, before the Green Team version of the ride opened, it had a single rider line and we would do a lap every 15 minutes!)

Anyway, I guess I am saying that my opinion of the yeti comes from having experienced the ride many, many times with it working and afterwords. Seeing it a video is not the same thing as seeing it in the ride.

They did seem to fix the steam in the loading area when it got refurbed… it’s been working when I’ve been there the last few times. As for the tunnel steam, it would be fun to see but it supposedly caused issues with the sensors…

I do agree that the Yeti is comparatively not a big issue. Bigger issues include things like the fact that every last one of the RoR animatronics have been broken on and off recently.

 

[Chef Mickey]

My 'hot take': I'd much rather WDW fix their attractions and restore the quality they USED to have...including the yeti... before they go out and build overpriced IP rides like Guardians of the Galaxy.

Agreed, but at least Guardians is a good ride. So many of the replacement and new rides have been mediocre like Tron, all of Toy Story Land, Smuggler's Run, 7DMT, etc. Even the Mickey ride, while "OK" replcaced a favorite and was a lazy route to a "new" ride.

 

[Splash4eva]

Agreed, but at least Guardians is a good ride. So many of the replacement and new rides have been mediocre like Tron, all of Toy Story Land, Smuggler's Run, 7DMT, etc. Even the Mickey ride, while "OK" replcaced a favorite and was a lazy route to a "new" ride.

As good as the ride is its far from a “family” roller coaster… it alienates a decent amount of the guests who come there

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Brand Loyalty is gone and will never recover.

 

[Chef Mickey]

As good as the ride is its far from a “family” roller coaster… it alienates a decent amount of the guests who come there

Not wrong, but my nieces are really young and ride it without problem. It's really only an under 5 exclusion and it's pretty awesome for what we've gotten lately. It's probably the best attraction since Everest.

 

[Splash4eva]

Not wrong, but my nieces are really young and ride it without problem. It's really only an under 5 exclusion and it's pretty awesome for what we've gotten lately. It's probably the best attraction since Everest.

I know plenty who cant/wont ride it because of being worried with the rotation and getting dizzy etc. ill be honestly i skipped it when we went bc of said reason. I ended up with an early boarding group unfortunately and right after breakfast. Was not taking the chance lol

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Unpopular Opinion:
Honey I Shrunk the Kids Movie Set Adventure could have been repurposed into a better Toy Story atmosphere than the actual "Toy Story Land".

Yes. Your miniaturisation in TSL doesn't result in any feeling of being lost, of feeling feeble, of being slighlty intimidated by all that sudden big stuff around you. You're not immersed, not enveloped. Mainly the effect is not of the spectator being miniaturised, but of objects being enlarged. No real exploring or discovering either. TSL is a stroll through oversized objects, not much more immersive than Pop Century.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Test Track 2 is as good or better than RSR

Dinosaur, at its best version, is as good or better than Indy

Vintage WDW Pirates > DL Pirates

 

[BlakeW39]

Dinosaur, at its best version, is as good or better than Indy

Well Dinosaur has dinosaurs... which are awesome so I probably prefer it too

Vintage WDW Pirates > DL Pirates

now this... I am interested to hear your justification

 

[BlakeW39]

To clarify my initial point about Yeti not being very important to fix: I think maintenance and show quality are extremely important. But I would have the yeti be very low on the list of things to fix, even if we were limiting out maintenance priorities to show elements in Expedition Everest.

Broken effects in Everest that add more to the experience than the yeti include:
- The steam effect in the train at load
- The fog effect higher up the mountain before the twisted track

And I do want to display my credentials a bit regarding the yeti: I went on the ride dozens of times (maybe around 100 times?) prior to the yeti going into perminant B mode.

I was in high school and had just gotten my first WDW annual pass about six months before Everest opened. At the time, my friend group would go to the parks to primarily do the thrill rides. So after Everest opened, we would rope drop DAK and do a couple of laps on the ride while waiting for our fastpass window, and once the Ling got a little longer, would lap the ride in the singles line. We would typically do 8-10 rides on Everest per visit. (As an aside, we would do the same with Mission: Space, before the Green Team version of the ride opened, it had a single rider line and we would do a lap every 15 minutes!)

Anyway, I guess I am saying that my opinion of the yeti comes from having experienced the ride many, many times with it working and afterwords. Seeing it a video is not the same thing as seeing it in the ride.

They did seem to fix the steam in the loading area when it got refurbed… it’s been working when I’ve been there the last few times. As for the tunnel steam, it would be fun to see but it supposedly caused issues with the sensors…

I do agree that the Yeti is comparatively not a big issue. Bigger issues include things like the fact that every last one of the RoR animatronics have been broken on and off recently.

HARD disagree on all of this. But I guess that's what this thread is for.

Agreed, but at least Guardians is a good ride. So many of the replacement and new rides have been mediocre like Tron, all of Toy Story Land, Smuggler's Run, 7DMT, etc. Even the Mickey ride, while "OK" replcaced a favorite and was a lazy route to a "new" ride.

you shoulda seen my other takes on this thread.... heheh

I do agree GOTG is better than most of the other attractions we've gotten lately... the ride system and music are great, and the pre-show effects are good, but the on-ride effects are bad imo. I'd place it below Rise personally

 

[waffleboots]

Peter Pan is not worth the wait
Wishes > Happy Ever After
As someone who didn't want Starbucks to take over the bakery I have to admit they did a good job

 

[DisneyFanatic12]

Peter Pan is not worth the wait
Wishes > Happy Ever After
As someone who didn't want Starbucks to take over the bakery I have to admit they did a good job

If you’re referring to the Boardwalk Bakery, I am also happy they didn’t really change anything, but I wish they went through the effort of recentering the sign. They just removed the Bakery and replaced it with Deli, so the deli doesn’t fill in its fair share of the sign. Personally, I don’t have an issue with Carousel Coffee, but I do wish it incorporated a little red into the tile work. Or at least some color to bring in the Coney Island theme…

Peter Pan isn’t worth the hour long wait, but oftentimes the actual wait is like 5-10mins. It’s almost always posted at 45 or 60 mins, but sometimes the standby queue is completely empty…

 

[waffleboots]

If you’re referring to the Boardwalk Bakery, I am also happy they didn’t really change anything, but I wish they went through the effort of recentering the sign. They just removed the Bakery and replaced it with Deli, so the deli doesn’t fill in its fair share of the sign. Personally, I don’t have an issue with Carousel Coffee, but I do wish it incorporated a little red into the tile work. Or at least some color to bring in the Coney Island theme…

Peter Pan isn’t worth the hour long wait, but oftentimes the actual wait is like 5-10mins. It’s almost always posted at 45 or 60 mins, but sometimes the standby queue is completely empty…

I was actually referring to the main street bakery in Magic Kingdom. Was worried about the change when it took place.
LOL my wife and I both noticed the wonky sign on the Boardwalk Deli. Can't believe they left it like that. I haven't had a chance to get to Carousel Coffee, it opened about 2 weeks after my last stay at the Boardwalk.


Good point about the posted wait times.

 

[fizzieee]

Fireworks are overrated as well as night time shows.

I will add two controversial ones. The train and the Peoplemover are the worst two attractions at MK.

You had me in the first half, but I can't get on board with the second half. The train nor the Peoplemover aren't better than the Speedway? Aladdin's carpets? Really?

 

[FettFan]

Unpopular Opinion: despite Flight of Passage and Expedition Everest, Animal Kingdom still loses a LOT of ground to Busch Gardens in the themed zoo concept.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Unpopular Opinion: despite Flight of Passage and Expedition Everest, Animal Kingdom still loses a LOT of ground to Busch Gardens in the themed zoo concept.

Counterpoint: the only thing Busch Gardens knows how to operate better than Disney are parking lot trams.

Both of them could stand to add some new animal exhibits. It's been well over a decade since either of them have done so.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Well Dinosaur has dinosaurs... which are awesome so I probably prefer it too



now this... I am interested to hear your justification

DLP Pirates is awesome. Very atmospheric in its long tunnels. But MK Pirates isn't shorter because of budget cuts. But because the Imagineers cleaned upbthe story and tightened it. And just like movies, rides too improve with tight editing that cuts out anything that doesn't drive the plot forward. Plus the fort is a better, more immersive, introduction than seeing the boats float by on an elevated canal in the middle of the room.

I do enjoy DL Pirates the way I enjoy the extended versions of Lord of the Rings: if only because the extra minutes allow you to linger on in a world you love.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Unpopular Opinion: despite Flight of Passage and Expedition Everest, Animal Kingdom still loses a LOT of ground to Busch Gardens in the themed zoo concept.

Busch is great and DAK is severely underbuild compared to Busch. But there's no contest in terms of atmosphere, theming, beauty. I'll take DAK every time over bare steel coasters and a paid safari.

 

[Chef Mickey]

HARD disagree on all of this. But I guess that's what this thread is for.



you shoulda seen my other takes on this thread.... heheh

I do agree GOTG is better than most of the other attractions we've gotten lately... the ride system and music are great, and the pre-show effects are good, but the on-ride effects are bad imo. I'd place it below Rise personally

Rise seems to always have broken elements, particularly Kylo but agreed, better effects at full operation. Guardians could have better visuals but they are solid and the scale really hits hard. The planets could look better but I think they figured you’re zooming by anyway.