Unpopular opinions about the parks?

Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Buzz Lightyear is lame and has always been lame. I wish it would "Take Flight" ( ;) ) and get replaced with something more interesting.

I like all the gimmicky restaurants that most people hate (Sc-Fi Dine In, CRT etc). WDW food is lousy overall, so I might as well eat somewhere interesting

WDW junk food (Dole Whips, cinnamon buns, turkey legs etc) is overrated.

Poly is currently the biggest rip off when it comes to WDW hotels...which is really unfortunate.

All the Magic Kingdom attractions that most Disney fans want to get rid of (Tom Sawyer Island, the Riverboat, Swiss Family Treehouse, Hall of Presidents, Country Bears, Tiki Room) are what make the park great. There's more to any park than its E-tickets.

Disneyland in California is not the be-all, end-all Disney theme park experience. It has some nice things and historical value, but has been undermined over the years by poor decision making similar to other Disney parks

Tokyo Disneyland is good, actually. No, the green pavement, roof over Main Street and "dated" Tomorrowland and attractions are not fatal flaws (in some cases, they make the park superior to its counterparts).

HKDL should have kept its original castle and spent the money on something else.

CineMagique was better than anyone gave it credit, which was very little since so few knew it existed.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Disneyland in California is not the be-all, end-all Disney theme park experience. It has some nice things and historical value, but has been undermined over the years by poor decision making similar to other Disney parks
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The only place this is really an issue is Tomorrowland. Honestly all they need to do is put it back and make it retro. Bring back the peoplemover, put orbiter back, put in a show in the 3d theatre (I vote for a figment 3d show that can also appear in Epcots magic eye theatre), and put an attraction in carousel of progress. I think a carousel 2.0 would be really cool personally.
 
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DisneyHead123

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IanDLBZF said:
But I'll admit TSM and Slinky Dog Dash hold their value and are surprisingly enjoyable.
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I think they are great rides, just not sure it’s a great “land”. To be fair I don’t think the newer portions of Fantasyland are great in terms of theming either - some great individual things but they lack cohesion because of the IP mandate, to my mind (the general “Prince and Princesses” theme is less of a mashup than, say, Epcot, but still a bit disjointed because each character is from their own mini-universe). But not everything can be a perfectly coherent area, and at least Fantasyland has a ton of rides, so overall I like it much better. Toy Story Land has some great visuals in terms of decor but because “toys” as a theme lacks the thematic appeal of, say, “tropical island”, I think the decor is just an “Oh, that’s cute!” element, but then there’s not many attractions to add the missing entertainment factor (contrast that again to say, World Showcase, where the theming basically is the attraction so one or no rides per country works.)
 
esskay

esskay

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I'm bored so figured "let me go and annoy people with some more hot takes".

  • Country Bear Jamboree should've closed over a decade ago, its awful and a waste of useful space.
  • Monters Inc Laugh Floor SUCKS
  • Disney are awful at post-opening management of rides. Rides like Mission: SPACE should've had a regular upgrade cycle baked into the development, with new film replacements happening every 5 years.
  • Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon should've been demolished and replaced with 1 new park.
  • I quite liked the Tiki Rooms under new management (dont yell at me!)
 
Monkee Girl

Monkee Girl

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Smiley/OCD said:
I’ll add this and duck…NOT a SW fan…never was, never will be…I think I’m the only 58 yo that never saw the 3 OG movies…I know of them, the characters but just not a fan. If SW land closed, I wouldn’t shed a tear…
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To be fair, as a 41 year old who grew up on the OG Star Wars and still has a workable VHS player and unaltered VHS tapes of the originals, I, too, would not shed a tear if the Star Wars land closed....what they put in was not Star Wars. More like...Asylum version Star Wars....
 
Monkee Girl

Monkee Girl

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NelsonRD said:
I don't like shows without live music. I have grown tired of people dancing around to recorded music. Which is also why I do not watch the Macy's Thanksgiving Lip Sync Parade.

When I was a kid, I remember live bands in front of the castle. There should be more live entertainment in the parks, including adding a marching band to the parade.
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agree with this. It's why I loved the World Showcase so much. Different bands and performers from the different countries. Was so entertaining. I would love to see a main street band in the parade like over in Disneyland.
 
Monkee Girl

Monkee Girl

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Buzz Lightyear is lame and has always been lame. I wish it would "Take Flight" ( ;) ) and get replaced with something more interesting.

I like all the gimmicky restaurants that most people hate (Sc-Fi Dine In, CRT etc). WDW food is lousy overall, so I might as well eat somewhere interesting

WDW junk food (Dole Whips, cinnamon buns, turkey legs etc) is overrated.

Poly is currently the biggest rip off when it comes to WDW hotels...which is really unfortunate.

All the Magic Kingdom attractions that most Disney fans want to get rid of (Tom Sawyer Island, the Riverboat, Swiss Family Treehouse, Hall of Presidents, Country Bears, Tiki Room) are what make the park great. There's more to any park than its E-tickets.

Disneyland in California is not the be-all, end-all Disney theme park experience. It has some nice things and historical value, but has been undermined over the years by poor decision making similar to other Disney parks

Tokyo Disneyland is good, actually. No, the green pavement, roof over Main Street and "dated" Tomorrowland and attractions are not fatal flaws (in some cases, they make the park superior to its counterparts).

HKDL should have kept its original castle and spent the money on something else.

CineMagique was better than anyone gave it credit, which was very little since so few knew it existed.
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Don't get me started on the Poly.....lol a devastating tragedy what they did to that place.
 
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DisneyFanatic12

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esskay said:
I'm bored so figured "let me go and annoy people with some more hot takes".

  • Country Bear Jamboree should've closed over a decade ago, its awful and a waste of useful space.
  • Monters Inc Laugh Floor SUCKS
  • Disney are awful at post-opening management of rides. Rides like Mission: SPACE should've had a regular upgrade cycle baked into the development, with new film replacements happening every 5 years.
  • Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon should've been demolished and replaced with 1 new park.
  • I quite liked the Tiki Rooms under new management (dont yell at me!)
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Country Bear Jamboree is really funny… I just don’t think guests understand it’s supposed to be comedic. Also, I guess that comedy has changed a lot over the years.
 
PiratesMansion

PiratesMansion

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DisneyFanatic12 said:
Country Bear Jamboree is really funny… I just don’t think guests understand it’s supposed to be comedic. Also, I guess that comedy has changed a lot over the years.
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CBJ is stigmatized by people who won't give it a chance simply because of the stereotypes they have about that country music and the people who listen to it.

Also because it never caught on at Disneyland, so obviously it can't be good if it never caught on at Disneyland. I mean, it's originally from Florida? Things can't be good if they started in Florida!111
 
NelsonRD

NelsonRD

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PiratesMansion said:
CBJ is stigmatized by people who won't give it a chance simply because of the stereotypes they have about that country music and the people who listen to it.

Also because it never caught on at Disneyland, so obviously it can't be good if it never caught on at Disneyland. I mean, it's originally from Florida? Things can't be good if they started in Florida!111
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I never associated, or heard of an association between Country Bear Jamboree to country music. It typically is synonymous with county living, not country music.
 
Monkee Girl

Monkee Girl

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PiratesMansion said:
CBJ is stigmatized by people who won't give it a chance simply because of the stereotypes they have about that country music and the people who listen to it.

Also because it never caught on at Disneyland, so obviously it can't be good if it never caught on at Disneyland. I mean, it's originally from Florida? Things can't be good if they started in Florida!111
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I think the bears need some new love. Much like any show, when it's never been changed, it gets super boring. At least with a ride, it's constantly moving and you can always find new things to enjoy about it. But a show needs to keep moving every few years or so. I feel the same way with Muppets 3D....I don't recall if it had been refurbed at any point but it feels like it's the same video with same outdated 3D effects since it's introduction. It's time for something new. Even the Tiki Birds have been reimagined a few times since I've seen them and, for good or bad, it keeps the attraction interesting. I think the bears need a new story or new songs or something. I'm not saying completely dumb it down or kiddify it, but it probably should be looked at to see if there's something more relevant they can do with the bears. I don't want them gone, I love them but they definitely need some love.
 
PiratesMansion

PiratesMansion

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NelsonRD said:
I never associated, or heard of an association between Country Bear Jamboree to country music. It typically is synonymous with county living, not country music.
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In my experience, country living and country music may as well be synonymous for the people who will judge it so.
Monkee Girl said:
I think the bears need some new love. Much like any show, when it's never been changed, it gets super boring. At least with a ride, it's constantly moving and you can always find new things to enjoy about it. But a show needs to keep moving every few years or so. I feel the same way with Muppets 3D....I don't recall if it had been refurbed at any point but it feels like it's the same video with same outdated 3D effects since it's introduction. It's time for something new. Even the Tiki Birds have been reimagined a few times since I've seen them and, for good or bad, it keeps the attraction interesting. I think the bears need a new story or new songs or something. I'm not saying completely dumb it down or kiddify it, but it probably should be looked at to see if there's something more relevant they can do with the bears. I don't want them gone, I love them but they definitely need some love.
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And the only love I would give them would be to refresh the AAs and restore the full length original show. Relevance is usually code for "put in modern country songs" or "swap out the bears for modern IP", much like the rumored Toy Story takeover from 2019, and that's not the solution. They already tried to put in more modern stuff with the Vacation Hoedown version of the show and it didn't make people like the show any more. WDW actually returned to the original show based on guest demand after the switchover to VH happened, and good for them for doing so.

Based on the three versions of the show that have already been produced, I think the original version is the ONLY one that truly works. And if Imagineers in the eighties couldn't create anything to touch the quality of the original show, I certainly don't trust that today's Imagineers will understand the assignment (if, indeed, keeping the bears and not swapping them out for something more "relevant" is even an option on the table). Based on what they have produced as of late, from my vantage point there's never been a worse time to advocate for 'change for the sake of change.'

And based on UNM and the Stitch version of the show I've seen at Tokyo Disneyland, I'd say similar things about the Tiki Room. The only version that works is the original. The main thing WDW can do is maintain them properly (i.e. better than they do now).
 
SaucyBoy

SaucyBoy

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I've had a few beers so I'll just say that, in its current state, Epcot is the worst park at WDW. It hasn't been great in a long time but it always had Reflections of Earth to makeup for it's mediocrity. But when they killed that show in favor of a show that caters to a bunch of theme park nerds and then replaced that show with one that caters to guests with the brain capacity of dirt only to bring back the geek show, yikes. I'd rather spend my time at DHS...and that says something because that park sucks too.
 
Twirlnhurl

Twirlnhurl

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The movement of the Yeti in Expedition Everest didn't add much. If I had to decide how to spend a fixed amount of money on maintenance at DAK, almost anything else you could think of would be a better way to spend it.

A Monsters Inc. Door Coaster would be the worst of the three Monsters Inc. rides around the world.

Mission: Space is very good.

Walt Disney World's Tomorrowland in 2023 is the best version of Tomorrowland at any Disney theme park today, and probably ever.
 

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