News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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MisterPenguin said:
When people say, "It's short!" No one is arguing it's not short.

When people say, "But it's *too* short!" No one is arguing it should stay as short as it is or be even shorter.

When people say, "It's a clone!" No one is arguing it's not a clone.

When people say, "It's redundant to Space Mountain!" No one is saying that there aren't two sci-fi coasters next to each other.

When people say, "But, ugh, that big box!" No one is saying they like the box.

When a particular person is obsessed with the idea that the ride doesn't carry through visual elements of the TRON movies... well that's a matter of objective reality that can be argued with.

So, what 'legitimate' gripes have people been getting push back on?
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I prefer 12 second coasters but it’s only in cast previews. There’s still over a month to remove 2000 feet of track. Here is my proposal:
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Hawg G

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J4546 said:
I think some people are just kinda mad that Tron is gonna be a huge hit in the parks. Some people want it to fail so that they can feel.... something i dunno lol. Fact is, Tron is gonna be loved by most people and be a huge crowd pleaser for MK.
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Bruh, they could build a clone of Big Thunder, with NO thrming, and it would open with hours long waits.

There is no park in the world that needs a MAJOR new GREENFIELD attraction than MK. Splash opened a LONG time ago. And there is nothing on the 5 year horizon. TRON is it for the last 30 years. And it's such a phoned in D ticket.
 
Marc Davis Fan

Marc Davis Fan

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Hawg G said:
Bruh, they could build a clone of Big Thunder, with NO thrming, and it would open with hours long waits.

There is no park in the world that needs a MAJOR new GREENFIELD attraction than MK. Splash opened a LONG time ago. And there is nothing on the 5 year horizon. TRON is it for the last 30 years. And it's such a phoned in D ticket.
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I have to agree here.

MK is viewed as "Disney" by most of the public, so it should absolutely reflect Disney's best work... for the sake of Disney's long-term public perceptions of Disney. The best work at is largely at the other three parks (with Haunted Mansion and Splash Mountain being the major exceptions... and so much for the latter). To keep "Disney" on par with its competition, an expansion at the level and quality of SWGE is desperately needed at MK. Something like Fantasy Springs, for example.

(This would also increase the park's capacity and thus reduce crowding; and incidentally that wouldn't be an infrastructure problem because they could add a ferry and also use buses on busy days just like they've done in the past, plus increased hours would allow staggered guest flow in/out.)
 
Rich Brownn

Rich Brownn

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FigmentFan82 said:
Only in execution of the effects. All of TL is built upon what came before.
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OK the look of each film is distinct. And TRON:Lightcycle uses the Legacy look, not the original film look. (As a sequel oof course it draws from the same storyline. But no one would confused The Wizard Of Oz and Return To Oz as the same film. Like Tron, the look and feel of the films are distinct)
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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MisterPenguin said:
When people say, "It's short!" No one is arguing it's not short.

When people say, "But it's *too* short!" No one is arguing it should stay as short as it is or be even shorter.

When people say, "It's a clone!" No one is arguing it's not a clone.

When people say, "It's redundant to Space Mountain!" No one is saying that there aren't two sci-fi coasters next to each other.

When people say, "But, ugh, that big box!" No one is saying they like the box.

When a particular person is obsessed with the idea that the ride doesn't carry through visual elements of the TRON movies... well that's a matter of objective reality that can be argued with.

So, what 'legitimate' gripes have people been getting push back on?
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. . . Literally all of those? Did you not read the post I was quoting?

They tried to characterize any complaints about TRON as unfounded personal vendetta. That's pushing back on every gripe that isn't "I'm just bitter as a personality trait, the ride is secretly perfect but I'll never admit it". Which is, of course, ridiculous.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Honestly, I’m mainly annoyed that MK is finally getting a major new ride and it doesn’t interest me at all. “Coasters in the dark” are fairly aesthetically limited (or at least Disney’s conception of them is fairly limited). I just experienced GotG, which is long and physically enjoyable and, despite its flaws, unquestionably superior to Tron. Even the Tron aesthetic itself is done with greater variety by Test Track. Tron just offers absolutely nothing, which makes the ballyhoo particularly grating.
 
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DisneyCane

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Hawg G said:
Bruh, they could build a clone of Big Thunder, with NO thrming, and it would open with hours long waits.

There is no park in the world that needs a MAJOR new GREENFIELD attraction than MK. Splash opened a LONG time ago. And there is nothing on the 5 year horizon. TRON is it for the last 30 years. And it's such a phoned in D ticket.
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The 5th gate can be a theme park themed to a behind the scenes theme park. None of the rides would have any theming and the entire physical plant can be exposed. It will give guests a look into the inner workings of their favorite theme park.

There would be VIP experiences where guests can wash dishes or mop floors to fully immerse themselves in the experience.
 
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celluloid

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DisneyCane said:
The 5th gate can be a theme park themed to a behind the scenes theme park. None of the rides would have any theming and the entire physical plant can be exposed. It will give guests a look into the inner workings of their favorite theme park.

There would be VIP experiences where guests can wash dishes or mop floors to fully immerse themselves in the experience.
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I saw the pitch for The Hall of Negotiations where the Union reps talk to execs cronies and they finally decide to just do whatever Universal is going to do in a few months.
 
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Hawg G

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ChrisFL said:
I'm confused, so some people here want it to be themed to the original TRON, or are upset that it isn't called TRON Legacy?
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No, they just want it themed to either one, beyond the ride vehicle. And * themed to" means having specific things/characters from the movie, not having a similar color and lighting package.

Half of TRON is OUTSIDE, for a movie set inside a computer...
 
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celluloid

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ChrisFL said:
I still think the canopy area should have been the ending of the ride as you're escaping the grid, not "in" the grid because you immediately go outside
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You have something there. And a climactic pace to a story physically to match the theme that still has the kinetic energy to advertise below. A digital shattering to the real world.

But that was not the kind of thought for this project. They wanted it to draw you in and advertise with kinetic energy, not so much focus on the delivery.
 

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