News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

No Name

Well-Known Member
Archaeology is essentially misspelled too (archeology does occasionally get used but I've never seen any edited, professional writing spell it that way).

Where is that from?
It’s from the Indiana Jones Adventure refurb in Disneyland. Last month they had mistakes on a ton of signs they put up… I’m guessing someone lost their job. Stuff like “Main Stret,” “Lightening Lane,” and multiple errors on their 100th anniversary banners. They even have a banner for Walt Disneyworld!!

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ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Space Mountain had a ride vehicle outside on its marquee to explain its premise. Not knowing what’s inside a windowless building is not something unique to the Chinese. But a number of decisions at Hong Kong Disneyland and Shanghai Disneyland are based on the idea that the Chinese just couldn’t possibly understand.
I thought this was a problem in HKDL that was rectified in SDL? That would make sense. Just like when Walt realized Californians like kombucha tea so he insisted on it coming to the Florida Project. But, then he died and you know what happened. No kombucha. No EPCOT.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I thought this was a problem in HKDL that was rectified in SDL? That would make sense. Just like when Walt realized Californians like kombucha tea so he insisted on it coming to the Florida Project. But, then he died and you know what happened. No kombucha. No EPCOT.
All framed as something unique to Chinese audience. We don’t have stories about how Space Mountain: De la Terre à la Lune is visible from outside because the Europeans just wouldn’t be able to figure out an indoor roller coaster. Hong Kong Disneyland was also a park with visitation problems, so of course rides wouldn’t be as visited. It was also cut down because of claims that the Chinese weren’t really interested in rides and would just be excited to take pictures of the landscaping.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
All framed as something unique to Chinese audience. We don’t have stories about how Space Mountain: De la Terre à la Lune is visible from outside because the Europeans just wouldn’t be able to figure out an indoor roller coaster. Hong Kong Disneyland was also a park with visitation problems, so of course rides wouldn’t be as visited. It was also cut down because of claims that the Chinese weren’t really interested in rides and would just be excited to take pictures of the landscaping.
I find the “topiary are good enough for them” to be more racist, honestly. They are implicitly saying they think the Chinese are too stupid, ignorant, or sheltered to understand what a ride is. And they don’t think that of the Japanese given how they built TDL, so this isn’t an “Eastern culture is different” statement. It’s condescension aimed directly at the Chinese.

Hopefully, by the time they build Cairo Disneyland, they’ll have learned how to respect other cultures…
 
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aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
yeah but what good is it, you can only ride if you pay all these extra amounts per person or fight to win the virtual queue lottery. It will be impossible, both will either crash or instantly sell out in a nanosecond. I don't get it.
 
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gorillaball

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yeah but what good is it, you can only ride if you pay all these extra amounts per person or fight to win the virtual queue lottery. It will be impossible, both will either crash or instantly sell out in a nanosecond. I don't get it.
The other choice is? Open up the line and let you "fight" with the masses and stand in line for numerous hours, for a soft open on a ride not guaranteed to be open? Honestly, not combative, what is a better form of soft open you have proposed?
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
Mystic Manor would feel right at home if they could find some way to work it into Adventureland or someplace similar (Asia in Animal Kingdom? The ride does have an animal star). It wouldn't feel right next to Haunted Mansion anyways since that's in Liberty Square.

Conversely, TRON and Space Mountain look gorgeous next to each other. 😍

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(Edit: crediting the photographer, @somewareatdiz over on Twitter for this one)

To @lazyboy97o's point; TRON was absolutely designed to be a different park's "Space Mountain". I believe the Imagineers/Disney have said so explicitly so to say anything otherwise would be silly. Still, the experiences are different enough and they look so good together (imho) that I really don't see an issue with it.

Being a big white structure in Tomorrowland that houses a roller coaster of some kind is where comparisons end for me. -and in this instance again, they look so nice next to each other that I could probably stand there all night taking in the sights I've been seeing online.
I think there’s something fitting about the original Space Mountain being next to Tron.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
The other choice is? Open up the line and let you "fight" with the masses and stand in line for numerous hours, for a soft open on a ride not guaranteed to be open? Honestly, not combative, what is a better form of soft open you have proposed?

I feel like they shouldn't be selling LL if it is a soft opening since they can close it at any time. Just do the free booking groups until opening day. IMHO.
 

gerarar

Premium Member
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Thought this could be for Tron in a few days, but the Epcot name is kind of weird..
 

Touchdown

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Thought this could be for Tron in a few days, but the Epcot name is kind of weird..
Probably functionality to allow for 2 VQs as GotG is still going to be VQ.
 

gerarar

Premium Member
Probably functionality to allow for 2 VQs as GotG is still going to be VQ.
I mean that's not new functionality. There have been instances in the past when there were 2 (maybe 3) simultaneous virtual queues. Like the Santa M&G at Disney Springs, AP Passholder Magnet distribution, Figment popcorn bucket, etc.
 

pdude81

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Thought this could be for Tron in a few days, but the Epcot name is kind of weird..
It appears to be tweaking group options for Monday nights at Epcot and which queues you'd be eligible for. Of course this is the same stuff they would use for Tron, so could be quick ugly copy. Hard to say for sure
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
It appears to be tweaking group options for Monday nights at Epcot and which queues you'd be eligible for. Of course this is the same stuff they would use for Tron, so could be quick ugly copy. Hard to say for sure
We can be sure of only one thing: they will mess up the coding on this.
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While you hacktivists are in there, though, can you update the code to make it so that anyone who doesn’t get a VQ will get a Mickey pretzel instead. Start small and we can progress from there.
 
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dovetail65

Well-Known Member
It wasn’t just an after-the-fact description. It was the starting point.
Exactly, they meant it to be an iconic attraction as Space Mountain has been.
@egg; Sure, images can be cherry-picked. Yours is an example of the extreme opposite; an under construction photo from a vantage point pretty much only viewable to those climbing the treehouse and zooming in with their camera or staying at the Contemporary Resort. But as the Skyway has taught us; any attraction/location that offers views from on high is always going to reveal some backstage that we're not "meant" to see.

I'm not trying to say that Disney gets sightlines correct 100% of the time. They absolutely don't. I think Guardians of the Galaxy is probably one of the most egregious examples of this I have seen in recent years. That said, I don't think the image you shared is what "most" Guests are going to be seeing. Most Guests walking up are going to have a ground level view that looks more like this:

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Is the show building still slightly visible in this example? Sure. But no where near the issue your original image made it out to be.

But I'll be fair, too and say that there definitely is an area Disney needs to improve the sightlines for day Guests and that would be the Storybook Circus/Barnstormer:

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While one could make the argument that only small children and their families waiting in line for Barnstormer would be subject to this view (thus being less likely to notice or care), I don't think that's a proper case to be making. This view in particular absolutely should be worked on and could absolutely be simply fixed with some more stinkin' (taller) trees.
It's not the view that concerns me the most. It is how long they continue to force guests off on the Barnstormer side and not allow us to leave on the Space Mountain side.

Where they are focing us to leave Tron for the preview is a kids area many guests never even venture into unless they have younger kids and it was very busy tight and crowded before Tron. We mostly avoided the area. Once in awhile we would jump the train right there(not for years of course), but seeing how cramped, busy and filled with younger kids it was as our kids aged we tended to stay away.

Now with up to 20,000 Tron guests a day coming off the ride it just adds to the mayhem of what I consider a younger guest family area now getting filled with an older guest Tron traffic.

A few CM said both areas would be allowed for the off traffic, some said for the time being that there will be only the one way off. I am hoping they allow both areas to be used and split those people coming of the ride. In any case that kids areas need be expanded now more than ever.
 

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