News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Casper Gutman said:
To what extent does the attraction explain the central premise of the IP, that you are being “digitized” and put inside a computer? Is that made explicit within the attraction? As far as I can tell, there’s no threshold crossed, no moment when you move from our world to the “digitized” world. On the same note, to what extent is the reasoning behind the bike battle explained? It seems like the attraction just assumes riders will be quite familiar with the films.
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The moment is when you walk into the building, past the digitization laser right outside the doors.
 
Poseidon Quest

Poseidon Quest

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lazyboy97o said:
The ride going outside was not a creative choice. It was, to be blunt, a racist choice. Disney believed the Mainland Chinese audience would not understand an entirely indoor roller coaster. That is why you go outside.
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I'm all for representation and fighting racism, but this was definitely not a racist choice. It's as simple as mainland Chinese audiences haven't been exposed to the outside world for very long and don't have many similar experiences to relate to. Many Americans in the 1970s who should not have ever been going on Space Mountain sustained serious injuries, not knowing what they were getting into and expecting a dark ride, even with warnings that it was an indoor coaster.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Poseidon Quest said:
I'm all for representation and fighting racism, but this was definitely not a racist choice. It's as simple as mainland Chinese audiences haven't been exposed to the outside world for very long and don't have many similar experiences to relate to. Many Americans in the 1970s who should not have ever been going on Space Mountain sustained serious injuries, not knowing what they were getting into and expecting a dark ride, even with warnings that it was an indoor coaster.
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Space Mountain had a ride vehicle outside on its marquee to explain its premise. Not knowing what’s inside a windowless building is not something unique to the Chinese. But a number of decisions at Hong Kong Disneyland and Shanghai Disneyland are based on the idea that the Chinese just couldn’t possibly understand.
 
No Name

No Name

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UNCgolf said:
Archaeology is essentially misspelled too (archeology does occasionally get used but I've never seen any edited, professional writing spell it that way).

Where is that from?
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It’s from the Indiana Jones Adventure refurb in Disneyland. Last month they had mistakes on a ton of signs they put up… I’m guessing someone lost their job. Stuff like “Main Stret,” “Lightening Lane,” and multiple errors on their 100th anniversary banners. They even have a banner for Walt Disneyworld!!

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ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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lazyboy97o said:
Space Mountain had a ride vehicle outside on its marquee to explain its premise. Not knowing what’s inside a windowless building is not something unique to the Chinese. But a number of decisions at Hong Kong Disneyland and Shanghai Disneyland are based on the idea that the Chinese just couldn’t possibly understand.
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I thought this was a problem in HKDL that was rectified in SDL? That would make sense. Just like when Walt realized Californians like kombucha tea so he insisted on it coming to the Florida Project. But, then he died and you know what happened. No kombucha. No EPCOT.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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ToTBellHop said:
I thought this was a problem in HKDL that was rectified in SDL? That would make sense. Just like when Walt realized Californians like kombucha tea so he insisted on it coming to the Florida Project. But, then he died and you know what happened. No kombucha. No EPCOT.
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All framed as something unique to Chinese audience. We don’t have stories about how Space Mountain: De la Terre à la Lune is visible from outside because the Europeans just wouldn’t be able to figure out an indoor roller coaster. Hong Kong Disneyland was also a park with visitation problems, so of course rides wouldn’t be as visited. It was also cut down because of claims that the Chinese weren’t really interested in rides and would just be excited to take pictures of the landscaping.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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lazyboy97o said:
All framed as something unique to Chinese audience. We don’t have stories about how Space Mountain: De la Terre à la Lune is visible from outside because the Europeans just wouldn’t be able to figure out an indoor roller coaster. Hong Kong Disneyland was also a park with visitation problems, so of course rides wouldn’t be as visited. It was also cut down because of claims that the Chinese weren’t really interested in rides and would just be excited to take pictures of the landscaping.
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I find the “topiary are good enough for them” to be more racist, honestly. They are implicitly saying they think the Chinese are too stupid, ignorant, or sheltered to understand what a ride is. And they don’t think that of the Japanese given how they built TDL, so this isn’t an “Eastern culture is different” statement. It’s condescension aimed directly at the Chinese.

Hopefully, by the time they build Cairo Disneyland, they’ll have learned how to respect other cultures…
 
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aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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yeah but what good is it, you can only ride if you pay all these extra amounts per person or fight to win the virtual queue lottery. It will be impossible, both will either crash or instantly sell out in a nanosecond. I don't get it.
 
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gorillaball

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aladdin2007 said:
yeah but what good is it, you can only ride if you pay all these extra amounts per person or fight to win the virtual queue lottery. It will be impossible, both will either crash or instantly sell out in a nanosecond. I don't get it.
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The other choice is? Open up the line and let you "fight" with the masses and stand in line for numerous hours, for a soft open on a ride not guaranteed to be open? Honestly, not combative, what is a better form of soft open you have proposed?
 
EricsBiscuit

EricsBiscuit

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DavidDL said:
Mystic Manor would feel right at home if they could find some way to work it into Adventureland or someplace similar (Asia in Animal Kingdom? The ride does have an animal star). It wouldn't feel right next to Haunted Mansion anyways since that's in Liberty Square.

Conversely, TRON and Space Mountain look gorgeous next to each other. 😍

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(Edit: crediting the photographer, @somewareatdiz over on Twitter for this one)

To @lazyboy97o's point; TRON was absolutely designed to be a different park's "Space Mountain". I believe the Imagineers/Disney have said so explicitly so to say anything otherwise would be silly. Still, the experiences are different enough and they look so good together (imho) that I really don't see an issue with it.

Being a big white structure in Tomorrowland that houses a roller coaster of some kind is where comparisons end for me. -and in this instance again, they look so nice next to each other that I could probably stand there all night taking in the sights I've been seeing online.
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I think there’s something fitting about the original Space Mountain being next to Tron.
 
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doctornick

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gorillaball said:
The other choice is? Open up the line and let you "fight" with the masses and stand in line for numerous hours, for a soft open on a ride not guaranteed to be open? Honestly, not combative, what is a better form of soft open you have proposed?
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I feel like they shouldn't be selling LL if it is a soft opening since they can close it at any time. Just do the free booking groups until opening day. IMHO.
 
gerarar

gerarar

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Thought this could be for Tron in a few days, but the Epcot name is kind of weird..
 
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Touchdown

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gerarar said:
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Thought this could be for Tron in a few days, but the Epcot name is kind of weird..
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Probably functionality to allow for 2 VQs as GotG is still going to be VQ.
 
gerarar

gerarar

Premium Member
Touchdown said:
Probably functionality to allow for 2 VQs as GotG is still going to be VQ.
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I mean that's not new functionality. There have been instances in the past when there were 2 (maybe 3) simultaneous virtual queues. Like the Santa M&G at Disney Springs, AP Passholder Magnet distribution, Figment popcorn bucket, etc.
 

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