News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[yensidtlaw1969]

You're taking very specific examples of people with legitimate disabilities, which always exist and need to be accommodated, and using it to bash the idea that maybe, just maybe, there's a large percentage of the population who are, in fact, responsible for their own issues. I'm sorry, but we have a major obesity crisis in this country. And it's not just that if affects people's appearances or keeps them from riding the latest Disney ride. It is killing people. And the vast majority (not all) of the responsibility is on the individuals themselves. It's time we stopped being afraid to say that. We're not doing anyone any favors by pretending otherwise. And the presence of people with legitimate disabilities does not change that.

It's not that people are "afraid" to say that, it's that many people have the general understanding that this is a gross mischaracterization of the situation, and therefore know better than to say it.

 

[Squishy]

There is only one solution to this problem according to the CFO playbook: Raise food prices & cut portion sizes!

 

[Tom P.]

It's not that people are "afraid" to say that, it's that many people have the general understanding that this is a gross mischaracterization of the situation, and therefore know better than to say it.

It's not.

 

[Tom P.]

Disney refuses to furnish nutritional info, including calories and carbohydrates.

Disney is part of the problem.

I appreciate having nutritional information available. But I can still look at a Disney restaurant menu and tell which choices are generally healthy or unhealthy, and which are likely to be bad for my weight. It doesn't take detailed nutritional information to make those kinds of assessments. Additionally, most people are at Walt Disney World for a maximum of a week or two. What they are eating for a one or two week period is not an issue. It is what they are eating (and doing) the remaining 50 weeks of the year.

 

[Andrew C]

It's not that people are "afraid" to say that, it's that many people have the general understanding that this is a gross mischaracterization of the situation, and therefore know better than to say it.

There is an obesity epidemic this in country. What are you referring to? That individuals of lower income in this country have much easier access to unhealthy, over processed foods..rather than healthier options? There is some of that, which is our own fault as well. But of course these individuals are probably not going to WDW either...

 

[ToTBellHop]

So if I’m following this conversation, the fact that Mickey Premium Bars used to be $3 is responsible for 73% of the obesity epidemic?

Thank you, Disney, for doubling the price. It’s the cigarette model and it’s for our own good. I think Premium Bars should be $9 by next FY.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

That lady obviously knew about TRON's issues when she said Disney fans should shrink their waistlines.

 

[lewisc]

I appreciate having nutritional information available. But I can still look at a Disney restaurant menu and tell which choices are generally healthy or unhealthy, and which are likely to be bad for my weight. It doesn't take detailed nutritional information to make those kinds of assessments. Additionally, most people are at Walt Disney World for a maximum of a week or two. What they are eating for a one or two week period is not an issue. It is what they are eating (and doing) the remaining 50 weeks of the year.

Diabetics generally count carbs. Carb counting is used to calculate how much insulin to take. There are books and apps which list nutritional information for restaurants, food items you buy from supermarket and a lot of recipes. Disney is missing.

You can generally guesstimate...Some pasta sauces have a lot of added sugar. Some BBQ sauce s get their flavor from vinegar, onion etc. Others get their flavor from sugar such as brown sugar, molasses, high fructose corn syrup etc.

HUGE DIFFERENCES

 

[RSoxNo1]

Is it because they don't want people to bring their phones with them on the ride?

That's a good point. The idea is for the lockers to minimize what is carried onto the ride, so using something like a phone as the key is not ideal. Although here is a small storage area on the lightycles for things that are phone sized. My guess its just likely to be a compatibility issue.

There was a PhotoPass offering specific to TRON that could be activated using the phone. This is not the reason.

 

[Tom P.]

Diabetics generally count carbs. Carb counting is used to calculate how much insulin to take. There are books and apps which list nutritional information for restaurants, food items you buy from supermarket and a lot of recipes. Disney is missing.

You can generally guesstimate...Some pasta sauces have a lot of added sugar. Some BBQ sauce s get their flavor from vinegar, onion etc. Others get their flavor from sugar such as brown sugar, molasses, high fructose corn syrup etc.

HUGE DIFFERENCES

I absolutely agree that Disney should be providing nutritional information for their food. This information has been widely available at most locations for a long time now. And I know there are people, like diabetics, for whom such information is more than just watching their weight, but can actually make a huge difference in their health.

However, my point was that a lack of nutritional information at Disney restaurants is not, in general, making a significant contribution to people's obesity problems, since you can still generally know which items are more or less likely to affect your weight and the amount of time most people spend at Disney in a given year is relatively small.

 

[ChrisFL]

TRON the movies and theme park attraction is all about aesthetics..........hot take........so is Avatar

 

[eddie104]

TRON the movies and theme park attraction is all about aesthetics..........hot take........so is Avatar

Yep and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[RSoxNo1]

There is an obesity epidemic this in country. What are you referring to? That individuals of lower income in this country have much easier access to unhealthy, over processed foods..rather than healthier options? There is some of that, which is our own fault as well. But of course these individuals are probably not going to WDW either...

Right, Disney has priced out the lower income guests. Perhaps this is all by design to save money on a couple of Roller Coaster trains.

 

[No Name]

Aside from the atrocious show building I think this is a good addition, just incredibly incredibly overhyped. It’s a pretty good coaster, parks add better ones all the time.

Here's vlogger Kevin Heimbach's review of Tron, FWIW.



Sounds like the queue - at least going in - is pretty awesome. But afterward...and in between...hmmm...

BTW, one of the reasons I like Heimbach's vlogs and sometimes post them here is that he's funny and has no qualms about giving negative reviews, even though he's one of the vloggers out there who gets special access to park events (like the Iron Gwazi roller coaster premiere at Busch Gardens). He deserves more attention than he gets IMO.

I agree with his qualms about the queue too. That artwork already looks terribly dated and the ride hasn’t even opened.

 

[ChrisFL]

Here's vlogger Kevin Heimbach's review of Tron, FWIW.



Sounds like the queue - at least going in - is pretty awesome. But afterward...and in between...hmmm...

BTW, one of the reasons I like Heimbach's vlogs and sometimes post them here is that he's funny and has no qualms about giving negative reviews, even though he's one of the vloggers out there who gets special access to park events (like the Iron Gwazi roller coaster premiere at Busch Gardens). He deserves more attention than he gets IMO.

Haven't seen his other videos and haven't been on TRON but just based on his and a few other videos, pretty much agree with everything he says. Those pics on the sides of that one part of the queue.....I really hope those are just placeholders because wow they look like crap.

I don't understand the choices made for crowds where the test seats are, keeping that massive gift shop in front of Space Mountain...after virtual queue is over (or even before), they might have pretty bad crowding issues.

Also, I heard only 2 of the 3 trains have the special access/handicapped accessible seats...that's not good.

 

[sedati]

The only restraint system at WDW that gives me concern is the one on BTMRR. A single lap bar shared by a Pooh-sized parent and a little waif who just hit the height requirement is basically no restraint at all. Split bars have become the norm and that ride needs a retrofit.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The only restraint system at WDW that gives me concern is the one on BTMRR. A single lap bar shared by a Pooh-sized parent and a little waif who just hit the height requirement is basically no restraint at all. Split bars have become the norm and that ride needs a retrofit.

With the sharp lateral forces on that ride, I'd be more concerned about the waif being crushed.

 

[lewisc]

The only restraint system at WDW that gives me concern is the one on BTMRR. A single lap bar shared by a Pooh-sized parent and a little waif who just hit the height requirement is basically no restraint at all. Split bars have become the norm and that ride needs a retrofit.

I disagree. Mich better air time. BTMRR doesn't have any inversions. Restraints prevent guests from leaving the train midride.

 

[Patcheslee]

Nothing official has been released.

We'll be there in June, after seeing the GotG trend of faster VQ sellout on Deluxe nights, we're avoiding those days just in case.

With the sharp lateral forces on that ride, I'd be more concerned about the waif being crushed.

I forgot about that part, note to self don't ride with my 14yo since she's outgrown me

 

[Casper Gutman]

TRON the movies and theme park attraction is all about aesthetics..........hot take........so is Avatar

Yes, but Tron’s impressive aesthetics are outside, rather then part of the ride experience itself. It’s a Uwe Boll movie with a Drew Struzan poster.