News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[Magenta Panther]

I don't know him, but every time I see a video that says "honest review" I automatically assume it isn't honest and it is just clickbait... based on my experience and given that negative reviews do better.

Well, that's a heck of an assumption. What do you want, soppy puff pieces that are equally potentially dishonest?

Kevin's video shows the ride experience. He likes parts of the queue and the way the ride looks in the load area. Then he says that even though he's a slim guy, he found the ride vehicles very uncomfortable in a way that a guy (slim or otherwise) would definitely notice. Then he points out that the walls of glass in the queue of the ride are already covered with hundreds of dirty handprints and doodles made by sweat paint placed by guests, which the queues' blacklight emphasizes and is not a good look. Then he points out the Black Hole (my description) that is the ride exit - just a long hallway painted black. No lighting effects, not even decals. Just black paint. And he also mentions that when you walk out of the exit, you see the backstage areas that park guests aren't usually meant to see.

People will have differing opinions about this ride. That's fine. But I appreciate vloggers that don't just fawn all over everything (like Paging Mr. Morrow, etc.) and will risk Disney's and Universal's wrath to give an honest opinion about a new attraction. That's all.

 

[Andrew C]

Well, that's a heck of an assumption

It is an assumption. Because that’s what I find every time I look at an “honest review”

It’s not a knock on this vlogger. He may very well be honest. Just explaining my reaction to that type of title.

 

[J4546]

all the "honest" reviews ive seen on youtube say this is a win for MK and I agree. Cant wait to ride this next winter!

 

[doctornick]

all the "honest" reviews ive seen on youtube say this is a win for MK and I agree. Cant wait to ride this next winter!

It’s a solid addition. It would have better if it opened simultaneously with the Main St Theater.

And something in the Stitch space as well for that matter.

 

[Casper Gutman]

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Master of ignoring EVERYTHING the person says, then ranting about something aimlessly.

Seen here with another user:


You're complaining that a ride, that has accessible seats, is burdensome to its intended audience, because? This makes negative sense.

I’ll note you swapped the order of the first two posts, creating the impression you were responding to me. You weren’t.

OK, you seem to be primarily championing two things about Tron. One is that the exterior is pretty. It is, from a particular vantage. But it’s placement is awful and it’s hidden from most of the park so that advantage is largely erased. It is absolutely NOT something most people will walk past as they exit the park like the fountain.

The second element you praise is the seating position. I’ve discussed that at length. To reiterate the point you seem to miss, if the primary point of the ride is the restrictive seating position, offering conventional seating isn’t particularly helpful because almost the ONLY POINT of the ride is the seating position. It is one of many reasons why building a ride in which the only unique or exceptional is the seating position is fundamentally a terrible idea.

I’ve responded to the other posts.

 

[SplashJacket]

offering conventional seating isn’t particularly helpful because almost the ONLY POINT of the ride is the seating position

As I made clear with suggesting that Hagrid’s is better on the motorbike (which happens to not as effective as Tron’s motorbike), it makes the ride better.

Tron, without the seating, is still a cool, fun, ride. Just like Space Mountain is next-door.

 

[SplashJacket]

I’ll note you swapped the order of the first two posts, creating the impression you were responding to me. You weren’t.

I wasn’t responding to you.

You responded to the topic in my post with this:

I know that when I think of what made Disney parks great, I think of seating position. Pirates? Imagination? Thunder? It’s all about that seating position. Even Universal’s best, most beloved ride, Spidey, has a really unique seating position. It’s a shame that Disney is building rides that a lot of people can’t ride, but as long as those rides make people sit in a slightly unusual way, it’s all worth it. Man, if you make that seating position unconventional enough, all you have to do is move the vehicles into a dark empty warehouse for a few seconds - folks will love it!

Which led to the subsequent number of posts, and resulted in you claiming I never mentioned the other strengths of Tron.

 

[UNCgolf]

It’s a solid addition. It would have better if it opened simultaneously with the Main St Theater.

And something in the Stitch space as well for that matter.

Also if they'd put it in a better location.

 

[Hawg G]

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You’re falsely acting like Tron’s only positive is its vehicle.

No, it's the only theming that is actually FROM one of the movies.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I'd say "quit your %&tchin'"

SDMT opened 9 years ago in 2014 and is still the hardest ride to get on in MK and thats short

Its a new ride in MK that desperately needed one..........

It changes the entire atmosphere at night in tomorrowland (and even beyond)

Short? Yeah, but so what........

Leaves you wanting to go back for more

SDMT and SDD were both rides that were better than Disney or guests expected them to be. They are both underbuilt D tickets.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Tron’s main strength is it’s gorgeous night aesthetic and added kinetics.

How much of that Kinetic energy is lost by it's placement so far away from the rest of the land?

 

[Hawg G]

SDMT and SDD were both rides that were better than Disney or guests expected them to be. They are both underbuilt D tickets.

And are both themed to their SOURCE material much better for the ENTIRE ride.

 

[Hawg G]

How much of that Kinetic energy is lost by it's placement so far away from the rest of the land?

And what percentage of riders will ride at night every day? 15% on average?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

SDMT and SDD were both rides that were better than Disney or guests expected them to be.

. . . Are they?

 

[celluloid]

Showing you what it could be, and not delivering as much on what it actually is. The modern metaphor of TDO.

 

[SplashJacket]

How much of that Kinetic energy is lost by it's placement so far away from the rest of the land?

Not really much kinetic energy. The main kinetics are under the canopy itself. The general ambiance as a whole? Incredibly underutilized (I suspect, haven’t seen WDW's in person, but I was impressed by the testing last summer, so maybe not as significant as we think?)

 

[UNCgolf]

How much of that Kinetic energy is lost by it's placement so far away from the rest of the land?

I think the night aesthetic is the bigger issue re: placement. It looks great in photos, but there aren't that many places where you can actually see it.

 

[UNCgolf]

. . . Are they?

I'm thinking he mistyped that somehow, considering he calls them underbuilt D tickets in the next sentence (which is an accurate description, although 7DMT is much better than SDD).

Maybe he meant busier?

 

[marni1971]

SDMT looks to be long compared with Tron.

And that’s saying something !

 

[drizgirl]

And that’s saying something !

Yes it is.