News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[UNCgolf]

In my personal opinion, the only single day ticket you can justify is the magic kingdom. Even with star wars, the studios is a tough sell for a single day in my eyes.

Studios actually has the least to do IMO -- it's easier for me to spend additional time at EPCOT or AK than DHS.

 

[Br0ckford]

I would've agreed like a month ago when CR was performing amazingly, but CR has been really performing bad for the past couple days/weeks.

For the past two days, the ride performed operationally at its worst since it opened. Down 37% of the day yesterday, and 36% day before. The ride shut down yesterday around 6pm and never reopened.

And because of this, the afternoon 1pm drop has been filling quicker than the morning 7am drop, which is unheard of.

Reliability has sadly taken a turn for the worst with Guardians.
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Any idea why that is? When we were there in June it seemed, to me anyway, reliable. We were at Epcot 3 of the days on our trip, hopped twice, and I don’t remember hearing it go down. But the info you have been posting is really concerning on its hold up.

 

[J4546]

In my personal opinion, the only single day ticket you can justify is the magic kingdom. Even with star wars, the studios is a tough sell for a single day in my eyes.

I feel the same way, even though AK is my fave park of the 4 its not an all day, neither is Epcot or DHS, MK is barely....and even then just barely

 

[Disney Analyst]

Studios actually has the least to do IMO -- it's easier for me to spend additional time at EPCOT or AK than DHS.

For real: this conversation has been interesting…

But I’d much rather go to Epcot on my trip over DHS.

 

[UNCgolf]

Maybe GoTG, Poppins, Spaceship Earth, Play! pavilion, Rat, and a popular new nighttime show all opening within a year would have done the job. But somewhat like the DHS relaunch, it fizzled out.

Imagine if they'd also overhauled Imagination into something as good, or even 75% as good, as the original version.

 

[Patcheslee]

For real: this conversation has been interesting…

But I’d much rather go to Epcot on my trip over DHS.

We considered a single Epcot day when we were on a Uni vacation last year. But for the price and the fact it was mainly a want to visit WS, we decided it would be better to wait. I'm slightly surprised Disney hasn't separated access yet. Pay X price for WS only, or visit the entire park for Y.

 

[UNCgolf]

We considered a single Epcot day when we were on a Uni vacation last year. But for the price and the fact it was mainly a want to visit WS, we decided it would be better to wait. I'm slightly surprised Disney hasn't separated access yet. Pay X price for WS only, or visit the entire park for Y.

That would be an operational issue. They'd have to have ticket gates between the World Showcase and former Future World, and scan everybody going between the two.

 

[tparris]

Not the best quality photo but I noticed from the peoplemover today that they’ve started pouring a new pathway beyond the railroad tunnel. I’ll go around again in a bit to get a couple more photos.

 

[tparris]

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Also, the canopy is starting to look a bit grimy in some spots.

 

[esskay]

Also, the canopy is starting to look a bit grimy in some spots.

Was about to say it looks a bit dirty. Hope they'll be cleaning that construction dust off before they're done. Doesn't bode well. It'll end up with the green slime the WoL pavilion was plastered with.

 

[tparris]

Was about to say it looks a bit dirty. Hope they'll be cleaning that construction dust off before they're done. Doesn't bode well. It'll end up with the green slime the WoL pavilion was plastered with.

I would assume so. The guardians building seems to be cleaned fairly regularly as the last time I saw noticeable grime on it was during construction. Although on the other hand, SM doesn’t get cleaned as often as it should so we’ll just have to see. I do hope they power wash Space at least before Tron opens though.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Was about to say it looks a bit dirty. Hope they'll be cleaning that construction dust off before they're done. Doesn't bode well. It'll end up with the green slime the WoL pavilion was plastered with.

Cleaning is a pretty standard feature of construction contracts.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Am I a bad person if I only enjoy Epcot during Festival of the Holidays?

 

[tparris]

From today. I caught a glimpse of testing as well, you can see it in the last photo.

 

[J4546]

Not the best quality photo but I noticed from the peoplemover today that they’ve started pouring a new pathway beyond the railroad tunnel. I’ll go around again in a bit to get a couple more photos.View attachment 658990

man wouldnt it be cool if that smaller building off the pathway that is probably bathrooms or lockers, had an elevator taking you down, onto that path under the elevated walkway and onto the massive courtyard area beyond the train tracks and n front of the canopy. I am still kinda wondering what that area will look like because you will clearly be seeing it from the elevated walkway.

 

[James Alucobond]

man wouldnt it be cool if that smaller building off the pathway that is probably bathrooms or lockers, had an elevator taking you down, onto that path under the elevated walkway and onto the massive courtyard area beyond the train tracks and n front of the canopy. I am still kinda wondering what that area will look like because you will clearly be seeing it from the elevated walkway.

I can’t imagine that path isn’t backstage. It probably leads to the nearby electrical substation or something.

 

[fgmnt]

While guests may not know the hows and whys, these sort of issues absolutely have consequences for them. The high cost of attractions is part of why capacity has been squeezed and not adequate.

You're absolutely correct, but still, Burbank is counting on a majority of their guests not connecting these dots, and I think they are correct.

EPCOT Center was successful. Attendance was far more on par with Magic Kingdom and the parks business so successful that it made up for the losses at the studio and kept Walt Disney Productions profitable. There’s a reason Disney is wrapping Epcot in EPCOT Center imagery, because EPCOT Center still carries cultural meaning.

There is a lot of pain on the balance sheet of a company like Disney when investing the necessary capital in the division to keep it relevant. However, it has before and can again carry the company through times of crisis in the other divisions.

Studios actually has the least to do IMO -- it's easier for me to spend additional time at EPCOT or AK than DHS.

One time when I think guests can become acutely aware of the capacity crisis TDO has on its hands, is when one attraction at AK or DHS goes down through the ever growing peak seasons of the resort. 3 major attractions opened in the last 5 years still have some lingering uptime issues, Tower has been under the knife for a year, RnRC has had bouts of 101itis throughout its history... it can get bad there quickly. At DAK, 1 attraction down nukes the park for the day. It's bad, and it's noticeable.

Build a park the size of two parks like EPCOT and it's hard to feel a capacity crunch. Build a park of considerable attraction density like MK and it can be resilient to scheduled maintenance of major attractions.

 

[nickys]

That would be an operational issue. They'd have to have ticket gates between the World Showcase and former Future World, and scan everybody going between the two.

And the IG doesn’t have the facility for mass transport links. Plus all resorts would need transport to the second entrance.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Maybe GoTG, Poppins, Spaceship Earth, Play! pavilion, Rat, and a popular new nighttime show all opening within a year would have done the job. But somewhat like the DHS relaunch, it fizzled out.

How does this keep happening?

It's shocking to me that they turned to both these parks, realized they were struggling, threw a Billion+ dollars at the problems and STILL fumbled the bag. They act as if they have these brave new visions for how the parks can be reinvented, but when the walls come down their identities are more confusing than ever.

Did the Master Planning team get lost with the Budget Cuts?

 

[mikeymouse]

EPCOT is still largely an unattractive option for many, and I think a lot of people are happy to visit for a short period to do Cosmic Rewind, Soarin', Spaceship Earth, Test Track, Rat - and leave. I think it is especially a hard sell for single day tickets. I could imagine someone buying a single day ticket for MK and DHS, but EPCOT?

I just don't get it. Why?? My family and I absolutely love Epcot, mainly the way it used to be, but I digress. It takes us usually at least 2 days to see it all. We have had the option to get 1 park in on a trip and it has always been Epcot.