News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

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celluloid

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Last time each WDW park got a new ride:

Magic Kingdom: 8 years ago (2014)
EPCOT: Last year (2021)
DHS: 2 years ago (2020)
Animal Kingdom: 5 years ago (2017)

Animal Kingdom is the park the needs a new ride ASAP. The two Avatar attractions are the only ones its gotten since 2006! With Disney's current pace it would take probably 3 years to add even one.
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And they lost one. While not great, they did lose Primeval Whirl with zero effort of a replacement to the roster.

It is getting rough with all of the gaps in time with how long some of the parks have gone between major attractions, or in some cases attractions in general.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Last time each WDW park got a new ride:

Magic Kingdom: 8 years ago (2014)
EPCOT: Last year (2021)
DHS: 2 years ago (2020)
Animal Kingdom: 5 years ago (2017)

Animal Kingdom is the park the needs a new ride ASAP. The two Avatar attractions are the only ones its gotten since 2006! With Disney's current pace it would take probably 3 years to add even one.
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I’m less concerned about ”years since new ride” and more concerned about quality of said ride.
 
larryz

larryz

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UNCgolf said:
I think the issue for Disney is that the ticket price is only one part of the total revenue puzzle. As attendance decreases, they're also losing potential food and merchandise sales. They also wouldn't want to do anything that lowered attendance enough to hurt their hotel revenue.

Of course the ideal would be to charge everyone $250 for a ticket, have it reduce attendance by 30% (mainly for a reduction in staffing), and have that population spend just as much or more on food/merch as the larger population would have because they eliminated all the people that didn't spend much extra cash.
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Well, I don't know about you, but I know there's lots of folks who would pay up to $250 per person per day if they could count on being able to walk into the parks and ride what they want with minimal waits, eat where they want without planning 2 months ahead of time, and watch fireworks and parades without having to stake out a good viewing spot two hours in advance.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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celluloid said:
And they lost one. While not great, they did lose Primeval Whirl with zero effort of a replacement to the roster.

It is getting rough with all of the gaps in time with how long some of the parks have gone between major attractions, or in some cases attractions in general.
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For a long time now I've disliked how WDW operates 4 theme parks, but advertises them as one.

This leads them to believe that if they add one ride at one park, that's enough to encourage people to visit all 4 and they can get away with not investing equally or more into the other parks.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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larryz said:
Well, I don't know about you, but I know there's lots of folks who would pay up to $250 per person per day if they could count on being able to walk into the parks and ride what they want with minimal waits, eat where they want without planning 2 months ahead of time, and watch fireworks and parades without having to stake out a good viewing spot two hours in advance.
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There definitely are, but Disney doesn't want that if it's going to cost them money because of the loss in F&B and merchandise revenue (and potentially resort reservations too).
 
Goofnut1980

Goofnut1980

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Animal Kingdom is the park the needs a new ride ASAP. The two Avatar attractions are the only ones its gotten since 2006! With Disney's current pace it would take probably 3 years to add even one.
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And that would be an A ticket attraction.

Come pet the goats. But it will take 3 years to clear the 20x20 foot area and plant two trees. Also, you will need Genie+ with a $27 LL pass to pet the goat. If you would like to feed the goat. Please go to your local zoo. This is notazoo. We do not allow the animals to be fed because that would cost extra for us to buy food. Have a magical day!
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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Animaniac93-98 said:
Last time each WDW park got a new ride:

Magic Kingdom: 8 years ago (2014)
EPCOT: Last year (2021)
DHS: 2 years ago (2020)
Animal Kingdom: 5 years ago (2017)

Animal Kingdom is the park the needs a new ride ASAP. The two Avatar attractions are the only ones its gotten since 2006! With Disney's current pace it would take probably 3 years to add even one.
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It’s next in line but at their pace, they need to start building yesterday.
 
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doctornick

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ToTBellHop said:
It’s next in line but at their pace, they need to start building yesterday.
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Yep. Hopefully, they will announce something this summer at D23 and start building ASAP. It's possible they could add something in time to coincide with the 2025 opening of Epic Universe. Even at their slow pace, Disney has shown that they can build a new ride in 3 years if they want to.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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doctornick said:
Yep. Hopefully, they will announce something this summer at D23 and start building ASAP. It's possible they could add something in time to coincide with the 2025 opening of Epic Universe. Even at their slow pace, Disney has shown that they can build a new ride in 3 years if they want to.
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I'm sure they really could build a ride in a year and a half if push came to shove (if their purses were a little bit more open). I've also always heard that rumor that Disney uses union construction labor and Universal does not and that has something to do with the pace. Idk how true it is and I've never really gotten any confirmation one way or the other. If they have rides/attractions/lands in development, and they put the pedal to the metal, they could probably coincide major projects in all 4 parks for the opening of Epic Universe. Which would be the smart move, only time will tell. Honestly, it may be smarter to take a page out of Universal's playbook and not announce anything until right before EUs opening. Unfortunately as has been discussed on here, Disney basically sells tickets to be the first to hear announcements on new park attractions, so that is unlikely. Aside from the Splash re-do and Tron, if they have nothing new in development for WDW, there will not be much to discuss at the parks panel for this coast.
 
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James Alucobond

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MagicHappens1971 said:
... they could probably coincide major projects in all 4 parks for the opening of Epic Universe. Which would be the smart move, only time will tell.
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Every park literally has an attraction-sized hole that needs to be filled, so this shouldn't be a ridiculous ask. Something to replace Stitch in Magic Kingdom, something to replace Primeval Whirl in Animal Kingdom, something to replace Voyage of the Little Mermaid in Hollywood Studios, and something to replace Imagination in EPCOT (okay, not technically a hole, but not much better).
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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James Alucobond said:
Every park literally has an attraction-sized hole that needs to be filled, so this shouldn't be a ridiculous ask. Something to replace Stitch for Magic Kingdom, something to replace Primeval Whirl in Animal Kingdom, something to replace Voyage of the Little Mermaid in Hollywood Studios, and something to replace Imagination in EPCOT (okay, not technically a hole, but not much better).
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It's not a major ask, and there is room for other improvements, for example:
- Disney seems to be committed to the Beauty and the Beast show to go on at DHS, save the bones of the show, but give it a refresh, refresh Lumiere, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, and Chips costumes, create costumes for them as their human forms, refresh the Beast's look, and maybe work on some articulated heads for all of the aforementioned characters? Lengthen the show a little bit, and it's basically brand new.
- DHS needs to refresh animation courtyard honestly into something different and maybe connect it to Sunset?
- Adventureland & Frontierland can both benefit from another attraction, what and where, I'm unsure
- Disney's obsessed with clones right now, and the BATB attraction from TDL looks beautiful, I'm sure they could stick it back between Gaston's and Bonjour Gifts (I think so, I remember discussing this on another thread years ago about whether or not another attraction could fit there.
- Turn Ariel's Grotto into another dark ride? I feel like if they were creative they could probably squeeze one in? (also depends on whether or not they can use the space back there)
- Moving One Man's Dream to Dreamers Point at Epcot or somewhere on Main Street (I saw this on another thread) and using that space for an attraction would be a great use of space.
- Use the Hyperion Theatre/Red Carpet of Dreams/Etc space and turn it into an attraction or two?
- Bulldoze the World Showplace building, and build an attraction
- Add another country to Epcot
- Finish the mess that is the central spine of Epcot at the moment
- Flesh out another country @ AK
- Refresh DINOSAUR, and redo the rest of Dinoland.

This is just dreaming, and obviously vague. I know that not all of this could really be done within the next 3 years, but they really should get a move on. I don't believe EU will steal enough guests from Disney (at least in the long-term) for them to be as concerned as this list would require though unfortunately. And there are about 20 more things I would like to add to this list
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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celluloid said:
And they lost one. While not great, they did lose Primeval Whirl with zero effort of a replacement to the roster.

It is getting rough with all of the gaps in time with how long some of the parks have gone between major attractions, or in some cases attractions in general.
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But look! another pretty M&G! and with BlueGenie!

Let's not forget that AK also lost Nemo show.
 
SteveAZee

SteveAZee

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_caleb said:
Right. Isn’t that typical in business?
I’d love to see someone approximate Disney’s number crunching on where the tipping point is. How high could they actually raise prices and lower attendance without negatively impacting revenue?

If $110/ticket x current park crowds = current revenue, would $220/ticket x 50% of current crowds = same revenue?

I suspect they could charge much more than $220/ticket for 50% of current crowds.
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I would think they're optimizing for profit/earnings more than revenue... especially if they can project long term earnings growth from the parks. If charging more but attracting less people causes overall profits to increase AND the word of mouth is that the parks are finally uncrowded and attractions, dining, and merch are all readily available, then more people will want to go long term. Drawing crowds isn't a problem... getting the most profit from each person that goes... that's their challenge.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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SteveAZee said:
I would think they're optimizing for profit/earnings more than revenue... especially if they can project long term earnings growth from the parks. If charging more but attracting less people causes overall profits to increase AND the word of mouth is that the parks are finally uncrowded and attractions, dining, and merch are all readily available, then more people will want to go long term. Drawing crowds isn't a problem... getting the most profit from each person that goes... that's their challenge.
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Good point about profit vs. revenue.

I'm sure there's also a metric looking at the marketing value of a full park, fully-booked resorts, and long lines at the popcorn bucket stands.
 

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