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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom
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I'm not sure if this has been said, but those are not Tron construction workers. Shouldn't let that stand between honesty and profits though
Squishy
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They are the rundisney planning team
CinematicFusion
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Tron still on for late 2022 opening? Or…. Feb 2023 opening?
Animaniac93-98
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Agree.
They'll want to have it open to accommodate holiday crowds (and get that LL money), but they'll also want something major to market in 2023 when the 50th ends.
MagicHappens1971
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I mean they could open it like right before thanksgiving and just market it throughout the following year. They do it all the time
MrPromey
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FTFY!
WIth Disney, everyting is new until they build something newer in the same park, don't-cha-know!
Goofnut1980
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The thing that they need to be doing is starting another project and I don't mean more hotels. They need to be starting another expansion that would open in the next year to 24 months otherwise it will become stagnant as always.
MagicHappens1971
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I want to believe they have plans because I can’t imagine they want a repeat of stagnating for 10-15 years and slapping together NFL to compete with Potter. Disney needs to get a move on some projects for all 4 parks, and they need to do it quick.
Especially with the way Universal is moving with their new park. Even if Disney started something new now, with the way they move at a glacier pace, Epic Universe will probably be open before Disney's newest project is finished.
Goofnut1980
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Epic Universe will have a 2nd park expansion before Disney does anything. LOL
I mean.. it is taking 4 years to add some plants and a water feature, which will be turned off in a few years, at Epcot for the central spine. Disney still feels that people will come, and for the most part they do. They will have a tipping point when it is too pricey for the average guest and the folks who can afford it will slowly stop coming because nothing is new.
Goofnut1980
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I agree - we should already have additions being made at AK in Dinoland and a complete overhaul and new experience at Dinosaur. You can't just slap new paint on the outside Dino when the inside is covered in dust and looks a hot mess and think that is an improvement. I shouldn't be able to see the steel support for the big dino at the end when you are about to come back to present day. It's freaking fake greenery. Go to Michaels and spend $300 already.. LOL
Current wait times:
KS 80
FoP 165
Kali 60
Hollywood relies too much on Starwars but if they dont expand for that, folks will be in the same boat. Look how much smaller the wait times are for Falcon compared to Rise. You took away a huge people eater with TGMR, replacing with MMRR and have it taking in around 25 people every 3-4 minutes, yet its spitting out 25 people every 3-4 minutes.
Current wait times"
Slinky 155
Falcon 90
Rise 130
MMRR 80
HTH 135
I don't feel we need a 5th gate, but some serious love to the parks we have now is overdue. They have to add capcity not just redo an attraction into a new theme. That doesn't solve the crazy that is World right now.
Disney is actively seeking that tipping point.
_caleb
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Right. Isn’t that typical in business?
I’d love to see someone approximate Disney’s number crunching on where the tipping point is. How high could they actually raise prices and lower attendance without negatively impacting revenue?
If $110/ticket x current park crowds = current revenue, would $220/ticket x 50% of current crowds = same revenue?
I suspect they could charge much more than $220/ticket for 50% of current crowds.
UNCgolf
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I think the issue for Disney is that the ticket price is only one part of the total revenue puzzle. As attendance decreases, they're also losing potential food and merchandise sales. They also wouldn't want to do anything that lowered attendance enough to hurt their hotel revenue.
Of course the ideal would be to charge everyone $250 for a ticket, have it reduce attendance by 30% (mainly for a reduction in staffing), and have that population spend just as much or more on food/merch as the larger population would have because they eliminated all the people that didn't spend much extra cash.
That's nearly impossible to do in reality, though. They're really always going to want attendance as high as possible (within reason) to increase opportunities for food and merchandise sales, which have generally have huge profit margins.
Lightning Lane and Genie+ are also new factors -- if attendance is decreased enough that the lines also decrease significantly, people would no longer need to purchase either and that's another revenue loss that would need to be offset in other ways. This would be simpler, though, because the ticket price increase alone would likely be enough to make up the difference since they're only used by a percentage of guests.
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_caleb
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Yes. I completely agree- it’s much more complicated than what I mentioned in my post. APs, resort stays, food/merch are just scratching the surface!
I’m sure Disney think they actually know the tipping point and is pushing towards that. But I’m also pretty sure they don’t want to do what it takes to get all the way there.
Animaniac93-98
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Last time each WDW park got a new ride:
Magic Kingdom: 8 years ago (2014)
EPCOT: Last year (2021)
DHS: 2 years ago (2020)
Animal Kingdom: 5 years ago (2017)
Animal Kingdom is the park the needs a new ride ASAP. The two Avatar attractions are the only ones its gotten since 2006! With Disney's current pace it would take probably 3 years to add even one.