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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom
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Andrew C
You know what's funny?
That assumes there are a large amount of people readily available with the appropriate skills to do the work Disney needs them to do...on top of the ones already there doing work on the numerous projects underway simultaneously
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
5 years ago, I may have agreed.
lazyboy97o
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There was extensive, difficult site work performed for Hagrid’s. TRON’s site work was stretched out but that is not inherently a negative. Completing TRON’s site work in a shorter period of time would have cost more but would not have decreased the overall project timeline.I mean the way I see it..
Disney had to clear/move land and trees, prep, and reroute a canal.
Universal just had to demolish a ride (rather then take it apart) and clear the land.
One takes longer then the other I assume.
No Name
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You should consider a career in politics, as you blatantly disregarded my question and instead repeated the same general statement you’ve said before!
Buried20KLeague
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Buried20KLeague
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Let me answer you directly, since you believe I’m trying somehow to be diplomatic or redirect.
No, it wouldn’t have made me happier. Announcement dates vs construction start doesn’t shorten build times.
And I don’t agree because Disney takes longer to build (through whatever methodology they choose to use as a reason) than Uni.
No Name
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Okay thank you. But I’m still wondering why it matters when they start, if they have a solid time that they plan to finish. Tron is and always was planned to open for the 50th celebration, no earlier. Why does it matter whether they take three years, or start a year earlier and take four?
I don’t get WHY it matters to you.
Buried20KLeague
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Because it comes off to me as putting in half effort.
If someone tells me they’re going to build a baseball stadium in 6 years (vs the guesstimated average of 3), it would annoy me. Because it could be done in 3. They’re not focused on getting the product to the fans in the shortest timeframe possible... that just doesn’t sit well with me.
My companies all involve shipping hardware and delivering solutions as soon as possible. Yes, that’s far more simplified... but to me it’s all a similar concept. If I told my customers it was going to take two weeks to get them what they need when they know they COULD have it tomorrow (at my extra expense of putting it on a plane or what have you), they’d be ticked. Again... I understand there are far more moving parts with what Disney does. But if their competitor down the street calls me and tells me they can deliver a similar product in far less time, they’re getting my money. I’m not blinded by the brand name or reputation. Just like my customers shouldn’t be by mine.
lazyboy97o
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This project is not one that could be accomplished in a much shorter timeline. There are plenty of examples of Disney taking longer but this just is not one of them.
doctornick
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This. Tron is intended to be ready in 2021. What does it matter how long it takes to build (or how long after it was announced or whatever). I don't see how it makes any difference if they started building (say) today and worked more quickly but got done at the same time they are getting done as is.
Buried20KLeague
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Entire parks in the same swamp were built in less time. I don’t believe the timeline couldn’t be shorter if they wanted it to be. They just don’t. Which is fine. And which is what I don’t like as a customer. That shouldn’t bother you.
An announcement is to build hype and future sales. When attractions take longer than the norm it does make a difference to the consumer. There are entire departments dedicated to monitor things such as perception and brand trust.
Tron will be the only major Magic Kingdom attraction in a nearly a decade since New Fantasyland. They have nothing else to hype for their halo park and have cut back on other announcements with a similar timeline.
Tron will be the only major Magic Kingdom attraction in a nearly a decade since New Fantasyland. They have nothing else to hype for their halo park and have cut back on other announcements with a similar timeline.
lazyboy97o
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Then and now are not the same. What you believe is not based in any actual fact. Harping on issues that are not true undermines legitimate criticisms, including the many other projects that are plagued by slow timelines.
Buried20KLeague
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So... normally I’m right, but not in this specific case??
I’ll take that.
And as a consumer I’ll still be unhappy Tron is taking far longer to build than what Uni is bringing to market. Because I can, and I’m tired of TDO’s track record over the past decade.
lazyboy97o
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A few years ago, yes, you would have been right but still complaining about the one project that is not a good example. You keep talking about Universal, the company that has pushed back its new stunt show from its announced opening and who also had to push back Fast & Furious: Supercharged, a complete dud of an attraction, by a year. Epic Universe is still four years out and even Universal Studios Beijing, which is dominated by clones, has been puttering along. Sinbad closed how long ago but we’re now years away from Hyrule if it ever actually happens. TRON is not taking a meaningful amount of time longer than Universal projects, it just took advantage of being able to start site work very early in its timeline so you saw something sooner. You are free to be upset but it doesn’t mean you’re not also ill-informed.
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Buried20KLeague
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Hagrid’s. Hogwarts. Gringott’s.
I can pick and choose projects that bolster my case too.
Feel free to view through your rose colored glasses. Mine are amber and have ancient mosquitos in them (just for fun). I have one opinion, you have another. Both are fine. That’s what’s swell about message boards. we’re clearly not going to change each other’s minds.
I’ll admit I’m less informed than in years past. I’ve been posting here since 2004(ish). And in recent years I’ve gotten so fed up with WDW that I’m hardly on here anymore. And WDW certainly hasn’t gotten my money. Uni has. Shanghai has. Hong Kong has. Tokyo has, twice. I have a short fuse with WDW. But it’s earned. And your defense of what you say was a poor building site won’t change that (no offense). I’m a customer WDW has largely lost and alienated (much like they’d love to do with their AP holders). I was free money to them. Often for 30 onsite days a year with little expense spared. And they lost me. I don’t believe them when you say it has to take 3 years to build tron. It is what it is. To me, perception and reputation are a large part of reality.