News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

I’m aware of all that. It doesn’t change the point. I don’t care if they take 3 years for fiscal reasons, or to spend two years helping little old ladies cross the road... 3 plus years for a cloned attraction is an embarrassment and IMO shows little concern for guests and what they think. Though we already knew that.

It’s only embarrassing if you don’t understand the scope of work involved. How long does it take you to read 1,000 pages?

 

[seascape]

And you say this as though the company didn’t have the money or personnel to do both. It’s not an either-or situation. Any established and responsible business invests in all of their divisions regularly, because they have the resources and understand the profitability of doing so.

Would I have you believe that they recently bought Fox for far more than the cost of Marvel and Lucasfilm combined AND are investing in WDW as well? How could this possibly be?! Maybe because they’re different divisions run by different individuals and the expenses fall on different spreadsheets.

Marvel was a steal. Yes because of Marvel's success and the parks recovery they have enough money to do everything. The other thing to remember is the of Fox purchase price was 72 billion half cash, half stock. That is 36 billion of debt. They sold sky to Comcast and they sold RSNs so the debt increase wasn't that much. The truth is Disney is a much bigger company than it was back then. They also suspended their stock buybacks. Back in 2009 they had to stop investigating in the parks to buy Marvel and the drop in tourism after 9/11 was the reason Iger had no options. However today thanks to his decision Disney is a quarter of a trillion dollar company and by 2025 will be a half trillion dollar business if not more.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

8/4/2019

 

[EricsBiscuit]

8/4/2019
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Looks like construction is on track

 

[Movielover]

Looks like construction is on track

 

[trainplane3]

Looks like construction is on track

You know? I've been really missing the bad puns from you. Been slacking over there. Gotta pick it up boy.

 

[azox]

8/4/2019
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From an engineering perspective it would be interesting to see what changes they incorporate from the learnings they gained from the original in Shanghai. It would be neat to see what they are doing differently if anything from a design perspective. While the majority of the ride I am sure is copied, I would like to think some things are being adjusted/fixed from the first build. (Likewise when they build the next ride that uses the FOP ride system it would be interesting to see what they have learned from the first build in AK).

I like they we are fortunate enough to see so many photos of the progress. (Very little exists for the shanghai build)

 

[Buried20KLeague]

It’s only embarrassing if you don’t understand the scope of work involved. How long does it take you to read 1,000 pages?

I'm illiterate.

So about three years.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

From an engineering perspective it would be interesting to see what changes they incorporate from the learnings they gained from the original in Shanghai. It would be neat to see what they are doing differently if anything from a design perspective. While the majority of the ride I am sure is copied, I would like to think some things are being adjusted/fixed from the first build. (Likewise when they build the next ride that uses the FOP ride system it would be interesting to see what they have learned from the first build in AK).

I like they we are fortunate enough to see so many photos of the progress. (Very little exists for the shanghai build)

I'd put money on it that everything is completely identical... Other than the obvious translations and possible video changes in the que and pre-show. There's really nothing to change. It's que, a Space Mountain style load, a coaster with only a couple effects in the interior portion (which they won't change because they're signature Tron features), and unload.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Did you forget Shanghai has exclusivity agreement for this attraction ?

IMO they should have kept it that way.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'd put money on it that everything is completely identical... Other than the obvious translations and possible video changes in the que and pre-show. There's really nothing to change. It's que, a Space Mountain style load, a coaster with only a couple effects in the interior portion (which they won't change because they're signature Tron features), and unload.

Just because it looks the same does not mean it is the same nor does it mean there is no work to do to keep it the same. Soil conditions are different. Wind Load requirements are different. Power supply is different. At the very minimum the bathrooms have to be redesigned. Going through every bit of minutia takes time and overlapped with the construction you say is taking too long.

 

[peter11435]

I'd put money on it that everything is completely identical... Other than the obvious translations and possible video changes in the que and pre-show. There's really nothing to change. It's que, a Space Mountain style load, a coaster with only a couple effects in the interior portion (which they won't change because they're signature Tron features), and unload.

Would still require a whole new set of blueprints.

 

[Janir]

Nobody measures up to the real deal...
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Mary checked. She's got the measuring tape to do the job.

 

[marni1971]

Just because it looks the same does not mean it is the same nor does it mean there is no work to do to keep it the same..

I’ll chime in about the DCA and WDSP Tower of Terrors. Before they stuck the oil rig on the Californian version, both looked virtually identical from outside. But the American one was steel framed, the Parisian one made from a pure single concrete slip form pour.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Just because it looks the same does not mean it is the same nor does it mean there is no work to do to keep it the same. Soil conditions are different. Wind Load requirements are different. Power supply is different. At the very minimum the bathrooms have to be redesigned. Going through every bit of minutia takes time and overlapped with the construction you say is taking too long.

He was talking about ride experience changes (IMO). Not design changes due to different soil conditions.

And it IS going to take too long.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Would still require a whole new set of blueprints.

Again... I was talking about the ride experience. Not wind speeds, barometric pressures, and my lumbago acting up.

 

[peter11435]

Again... I was talking about the ride experience. Not wind speeds, barometric pressures, and my lumbago acting up.

So? The ride experience cannot exist without engineering and blueprints for the ride and the facility. It’s irrelevant whether the guests will notice a difference, It will still take time to design the attraction for its specific location.

 

[lazyboy97o]

And it IS going to take too long.

You keep saying it but have nothing to explain how it is taking too long. Work on the ride facility itself has only been ongoing for a few months now, meaning about 2 years of such work to open in 2021. The year of site work overlapped with design work. You’re looking at a total of 3.5 - 4 years of serious work when 5 years is much more typical of even a small Disney project.

 

[Timothy_Q]

You keep saying it but have nothing to explain how it is taking too long. Work on the ride facility itself has only been ongoing for a few months now, meaning about 2 years of such work to open in 2021. The year of site work overlapped with design work. You’re looking at a total of 3.5 - 4 years of serious work when 5 years is much more typical of even a small Disney project.

Does Disney have the resources to build at a much faster pace? Sure

Does Disney care about building faster? Absolutely not

You'll never feel the need to ask again why any project is taking so long once you understand that

 

[Buried20KLeague]

So? The ride experience cannot exist without engineering and blueprints for the ride and the facility. It’s irrelevant whether the guests will notice a difference, It will still take time to design the attraction for its specific location.

I don't believe I ever said otherwise.

The previous poster wondered if there might be any changes to the ride. I read it as "TO THE RIDE EXPERIENCE" in the context of what he wrote. I simply said I think the ride will be completely the same as the experence in Shanghai. Nothing more. I'm not sure what's not being understood.

Let me be clear: I think THE RIDE EXPERIENCE will be completely identical in WDW as it is in Shanghai.