News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[Brad Bishop]

Should be a popular addition to MK, and that corner of TL is sure to be crowded once this opens. I'm still not sold on the placement directly next to SM but this addition is an overall positive in my mind.

One thing to consider for the placement is that they've done this before and it's worked out very well.

Splash Mountain does not belong in Frontierland. It's a wet log flume ride through the South, not West, yet they made it work and no one thinks anything about it, today.

I think it'll take some getting used to but there'll eventually be a time when we won't be able to imagine Tron not being there.

 

[bclane]

It's disappointing that Tron is not a mix of dark ride and launched roller coaster. If they just sent you on a two minute dark ride tour of the digital realm before launching you into the Grid this could be one of the most epic rides in the world. I want to see (and feel) Recognizers and light jets flying over my head and battle tanks buzzing by. I want to view the city and see programs going about their business (on the gaming Grid and otherwise) while jamming to the Tron soundtrack the whole time. And then I want to get launched and do battle with C.L.U.s baddies on the light cycles. Oh well, at least we get what we get...which is still pretty dang awesome.

 

[The_Jobu]

It's disappointing that Tron is not a mix of dark ride and launched roller coaster. If they just sent you on a two minute dark ride tour of the digital realm before launching you into the Grid this could be one of the most epic rides in the world. I want to see (and feel) Recognizers and light jets flying over my head and battle tanks buzzing by. I want to view the city and see programs going about their business (on the gaming Grid and otherwise) while jamming to the Tron soundtrack the whole time. And then I want to get launched and do battle with C.L.U.s baddies on the light cycles. Oh well, at least we get what we get...which is still pretty dang awesome.

That would be fantastic if they implemented any of that.

 

[orky8]

Wouldn't adding track length still leave the exact same load time? You'd still have the same number boarding per hour, but they'd be on longer! (Assuming you had enough trains in action.)

Correct. Ride duration does not effect capacity (assuming you increased the number of trains such that you could maintain the same dispatch rate, which might not even be necessary for a roller coaster which typically has a train at a brake hold point awaiting a clear station). Capacity = # of people per vehicle * dispatch rate. Duration is not part of the equation.

 

[Rich T]

Both Tron films are--by any film genre standards-- awful: Great concept, nice visuals, terrible direction, terrible dialogue, terrible acting, and unmemorable characters.

So I'm glad the Tron coaster just focuses on the positive elements that people remember: The cycles and the colors. Maybe a recognizer will turn up. I'm no fan of the films, but I'd happily line up for this attraction. I think they made the right choice by just focusing on thrills and atmosphere.

 

[Timothy_Q]

It's disappointing that Tron is not a mix of dark ride and launched roller coaster. If they just sent you on a two minute dark ride tour of the digital realm before launching you into the Grid this could be one of the most epic rides in the world. I want to see (and feel) Recognizers and light jets flying over my head and battle tanks buzzing by. I want to view the city and see programs going about their business (on the gaming Grid and otherwise) while jamming to the Tron soundtrack the whole time. And then I want to get launched and do battle with C.L.U.s baddies on the light cycles. Oh well, at least we get what we get...which is still pretty dang awesome.

That'd be amazing.

Following the perfect mold of RS Racers.

 

[Goob]

There's been no Fire Mountain expectation in this forum. Have you been seeing other forums!? Perfidious poster!!

I said Fire Mountain type. What I meant was I was hoping for an original, classic Disney attraction. In the vein of BTMR or Haunted Mansion. Something in Adventureland or Frontierland.

I am in no way opposed to TRON.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I said Fire Mountain type. What I meant was I was hoping for an original, classic Disney attraction. In the vein of BTMR or Haunted Mansion. Something in Adventureland or Frontierland.

Our sources say something like that isn't under consideration for the next several years. What's been budgeted up to the 50th anniversary has been mostly earmarked already, even if it's for "something to replace Stitch."

 

[Goob]

I know that, I keep up with all the pertinent sources on here. I was just stating what I would like to see.

 

[danlb_2000]

I do think there's too much of an acceptance of Disneys slowness around here with certain things.

Look at how fast serious construction projects are going up worldwide not just in the themed entertainment business but across all sectors, and then defend Disneys 4 year timeline for projects like this...but I get the 50th argument.

There will be an expectation for more announcements during the next d23 in 2019 regarding the 50th though...I wonder if this awesome d23 for WDW has set the next one up for unfortunate disappointment.

What makes you think it will take 4 years to build this? We don't know when work is going to start. The time between announcement and start of construction varies a lot. The Fantasyland Expansion started a few months after the announcement, Avatar on the other took a few years. A lot was announced at D23, and five of the projects have "started" in one form or another, so I don't expect all the other things to start immediately.

 

[Mike S]

What makes you think it will take 4 years to build this? We don't know when work is going to start. The time between announcement and start of construction varies a lot. The Fantasyland Expansion started a few months after the announcement, Avatar on the other took a few years. A lot was announced at D23, and five of the projects have "started" in one form or another, so I don't expect all the other things to start immediately.

It seems people are also conveniently forgetting that the land for Tron isn't suitable for big construction yet. Also, does Shanghai have an exclusivity on any of their rides for a certain length of time like Paris had for Ratatouille? @marni1971?

 

[aladdin2007]

I know that, I keep up with all the pertinent sources on here. I was just stating what I would like to see.

I agree as well I would have preferred to see a new mountain range to celebrate the 50th, but thats just my personal preference. I cant help but feel tron would have been a better fit in Epcot (despite the test track theme issue already being there I know) They seem to be on the path of making the magic kingdom more like Shanghai instead of its own classic identity, not sure I like that, but thats just how I see and feel about it right now. The park is clearly changing, no more following original formula I guess. Bigger question is, the crowd control issues getting worse and worse,but thats another thread.

 

[Mike S]

I agree as well I would have preferred to see a new mountain range to celebrate the 50th, but thats just my personal preference. I cant help but feel tron would have been a better fit in Epcot (despite the test track theme issue already being there I know) They seem to be on the path of making the magic kingdom more like Shanghai instead of its own classic identity, not sure I like that, but thats just how I see and feel about it right now. The park is clearly changing, no more following original formula I guess. Bigger question is, the crowd control issues getting worse and worse,but thats another thread.

Maybe they're attempting to make Magic Kingdom feel newer and keep Disneyland as the mostly classic castle park. Just spitballing here.

 

[aladdin2007]

Maybe they're attempting to make Magic Kingdom feel newer and keep Disneyland as the mostly classic castle park. Just spitballing here.

very well could be, its just when its the park you grew up in, would be nice to retain some of the classic type formats or formulas.
but I know WDW is not aimed at such a demographic like Disneyland is a bit more, strictly for tourists here.

 

[Bairstow]

It seems people are also conveniently forgetting that the land for Tron isn't suitable for big construction yet. Also, does Shanghai have an exclusivity on any of their rides for a certain length of time like Paris had for Ratatouille? @marni1971?

If it was 5 years, like Disney promised to the Hong Kong investors, that would still give them leave to open for WDW's 50th.

 

[Mike S]

If it was 5 years, like Disney promised to the Hong Kong investors, that would still give them leave to open for WDW's 50th.

Exactly, and not a year sooner.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I'm really excited for the Tron coaster, but I was hoping that even if the coaster itself was a clone, they'd remove the outside canopy portion and do a better job with the queue to set the story and theme.

From videos I've seen on Shanghai, there's no real word to digital world transition and no clear story reason why we're hopping on light cycles. The outside portion, while a visual weanie to the attraction, further confuses that point.

I went on it. There is a scene in the pre show that is basically like you walking down a narrow hallway with symmetric rows of blinking lightbulbs that leads into a video scene where they talk in Mandarin and then the screen goes transparent and you see a train take off. Then you walk through a balcony overlooking the launch area and into more queue. It's a very effective transition into the grid.

Also the whole attraction experience is about 10 minutes including all the pre show. And the queue sets up the story as you are on a team and you need to stay together and pass through so many gates in order to win. It is an exhilarating and an amazing attraction all around and I'm very happy it's coming to MK.

Maybe they're attempting to make Magic Kingdom feel newer and keep Disneyland as the mostly classic castle park. Just spitballing here.

I feel that DL is a very dated park. The dark rides in Fantasyland (I call them the "Cardboard Classics") are so dated. They need to be retired or completely redo Mr Toad and all the others except Peter Pan (which has a much smaller Neverland scene, has a lower capacity and is a bit shorter) I understand the case of nostalgia, but they are too short and have very dated effects. Also, Matterhorn's track is so bumpy. It's way more bumpy then MK's SM I can tell you that with certainty, especially the Tomorrowland track. Our Fantasyland is lightyears ahead of there's. Even so, they need to "Shanghai ify" both parks IMO. By the way, I went to DL last week for 5 days.

 

[Daveeeeed]

I went on it. There is a scene in the pre show that is basically like you walking down a narrow hallway with symmetric rows of blinking lightbulbs that leads into a video scene where they talk in Mandarin and then the screen goes transparent and you see a train take off. Then you walk through a balcony overlooking the launch area and into more queue. It's a very effective transition into the grid.

Also the whole attraction experience is about 10 minutes including all the pre show. And the queue sets up the story as you are on a team and you need to stay together and pass through so many gates in order to win. It is an exhilarating and an amazing attraction all around and I'm very happy it's coming to MK.

I feel that DL is a very dated park. The dark rides in Fantasyland (I call them the "Cardboard Classics") are so dated. They need to be retired or completely redo Mr Toad and all the others except Peter Pan (which has a much smaller Neverland scene, has a lower capacity and is a bit shorter) I understand the case of nostalgia, but they are too short and have very dated effects. Also, Matterhorn's track is so bumpy. It's way more bumpy then MK's SM I can tell you that with certainty, especially the Tomorrowland track. Our Fantasyland is lightyears ahead of there's. Even so, they need to "Shanghai ify" both parks IMO. By the way, I went to DL last week for 5 days.

Disneyland feels quaint, and that's one of the many reasons it is so much better than the Magic Kingdom. Mr. Toad is the only dark ride in the land that has not really been changed since opening. The others especially Alice has received updated. Alice is, in my opinion, one of the best C-ticket rides ever built.

Everything at Disneyland from many more rides, to the many more updates across the park vs. Orlando, to the quaintness of New Orleans Square and Fantasyland, and really the entire park lends itself to a superior park experience than MK. WDW is way more dated than Disneyland; by a LONG shot. Even with nostalgia aside, it's hard to argue that the Magic Kingdom is the superior park, and that will only spread further with Star Wars Land, but TRON will help MK. Not to mention how nice the locals are at Disneyland and that the Cast Members pride themselves in being a CM in Anaheim.
As someone who goes to WDW every year, Disneyland easily wins from going last month.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Disneyland feels quaint, and that's one of the many reasons it is so much better than the Magic Kingdom. Mr. Toad is the only dark ride in the land that has not really been changed since opening. The others especially Alice has received updated. Alice is, in my opinion, one of the best C-ticket rides ever built.

Everything at Disneyland from many more rides, to the many more updates across the park vs. Orlando, to the quaintness of New Orleans Square and Fantasyland, and really the entire park lends itself to a superior park experience than MK. WDW is way more dated than Disneyland; by a LONG shot. Even with nostalgia aside, it's hard to argue that the Magic Kingdom is the superior park, and that will only spread further with Star Wars Land, but TRON will help MK. Not to mention the how nice the locals are at Disneyland and that the Cast Members pride themselves in being a CM in Anaheim.

Good luck saying DL is the better park when you have to poop really bad and find out each restroom only has 5 stalls!

 

[Daveeeeed]

Good luck saying DL is the better park when you have to poop really bad and find out each restroom only has 5 stalls!

When that is the biggest complaint about the entire park, you know it's pretty good.