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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

flynnibus

Premium Member
I've seen photos of the land clearing. I just don't sell things at 100% until an official announcement is made.

You mean you were one of the types that didn't think BayLake tower was happening, while for ages the monorail wizzed by the construction site Disney wouldn't acknowledge?

Or if you really want to put weight behind 'announcements'.. your standards aren't as strong as you think..
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...perion-wharf-among-plans-for-downtown-disney/

Clearly nothing is done until its done... but also, it's obvious UNI has a plan and is acting on it. They aren't doing site prep for fun...
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
If it had a launch, it would likely have to go from two tracks to one.

I'm not getting how a launch forces there to be one track rather than two. Doesn't a launch take up the same or less space than a hill-climb?

And thematically, wouldn't a launch be more suited to a space-themed coaster than a clanky pull up hill?
 

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
You mean you were one of the types that didn't think BayLake tower was happening, while for ages the monorail wizzed by the construction site Disney wouldn't acknowledge?

Or if you really want to put weight behind 'announcements'.. your standards aren't as strong as you think..
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...perion-wharf-among-plans-for-downtown-disney/

Clearly nothing is done until its done... but also, it's obvious UNI has a plan and is acting on it. They aren't doing site prep for fun...

You’re wrong. Proof is the current theatre being built at the MK...

Oh wait.
 

No Name

Well-Known Member
Plus Space Mountain can never be perfect until it is a launched coaster.

Which has the added benefit of increasing capacity btw.

That in itself would not increase capacity. The time spacing between the trains wouldn’t be shorter if they go up the lift hill faster.

Of course it’s a null point because a launch would require a very different track and vehicles, and it’s a null point because that’s just a horrendous idea.

I'm not getting how a launch forces there to be one track rather than two. Doesn't a launch take up the same or less space than a hill-climb?

And thematically, wouldn't a launch be more suited to a space-themed coaster than a clanky pull up hill?

A launch would require a different style track which would absolutely take up more space than a tight wild mouse style coaster. There’s no way they could fit two decent launch coasters in there.
 
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ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
I'm not getting how a launch forces there to be one track rather than two. Doesn't a launch take up the same or less space than a hill-climb?

And thematically, wouldn't a launch be more suited to a space-themed coaster than a clanky pull up hill?
The ride’s current top speed does not make sense to me with a launch. And greater speed would not allow such tight turns. Is it technically possible? Sure. That’s just not how I’ve seen launched coasters designed. A launch into tight turns would be painful. A launch that merely gets you to the top of the mountain sounds completely unnecessary as it would require a completely different ride system for little gain. A slow launch doesn’t make the rocket launch significantly more believable, especially at the resort with Mission: Space.

I prefer to keep classic Space Mountain if they are building a modern launched coaster next door. TRON was built as Shanghai’s Space Mountain. If they convert our Space Mountain to that of Paris, it makes the placement of TRON next door more nonsensical.
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
Well forgive me for waiting until something is officially announced to believe it is a 100% legit done deal. That's just how I see things. I do indeed believe Universal is building a third park. But if it turns out it's something else, I can't say I'm incredibly shocked given a third park has not been announced yet.
What has a bearing is whether or not there is an announced completion date.
Announced completion date = we'd better make that date or else people are angry
Unannounced completion date = we should make it by this date but if it needs to be pushed back, we can do so without a public fallout
They basically alluded to the new park in a shareholders meeting. Universal tends to announce things when construction has started. Disney likes to announce things years before they open.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
That in itself would not increase capacity. The time spacing between the trains wouldn’t be shorter if they go up the lift hill faster.

Of course it’s a null point because a launch would require a very different track and vehicles, and it’s a null point because that’s just a horrendous idea.



A launch would require a different style track which would absolutely take up more space than a tight wild mouse style coaster. There’s no way they could fit two decent launch coasters in there.

I have always thought the Disneyland coaster is not a mouse 🐁 coaster.

The irony.
 

No Name

Well-Known Member
I think I'm thinking that there is no rule that SM has to be a mouse coaster. Just my opinion.

Oh there is no rule but I think MK’s Space Mountain is absolutely better.

Ironically, part of the reason DL’s SM is not the double wild mouse style coaster that MK’s is is because the Matterhorn was already built nearby. But see, they were clearly being nonsensical back then. Today’s Disney should have two launch coasters with relatively similar interior aesthetics right next to each other!
 
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flynnibus

Premium Member
The ride’s current top speed does not make sense to me with a launch. And greater speed would not allow such tight turns. Is it technically possible? Sure. That’s just not how I’ve seen launched coasters designed. A launch into tight turns would be painful. A launch that merely gets you to the top of the mountain sounds completely unnecessary as it would require a completely different ride system for little gain

You could do a launch into a climb to effectively just replace the hill climb. Since you already have a gravity design its not like you need a 'whole new ride' if the launch were to simply replace the initial gravity feed. Space itself would be the biggest issue with any sort of 'retro-mod' since the whole track is already designed to work with itself.

But frankly I find the hill climb the least of Space's problems :)
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
You could do a launch into a climb to effectively just replace the hill climb. Since you already have a gravity design its not like you need a 'whole new ride' if the launch were to simply replace the initial gravity feed. Space itself would be the biggest issue with any sort of 'retro-mod' since the whole track is already designed to work with itself.

But frankly I find the hill climb the least of Space's problems :)
In practice, you'd have a launch and need a trim brake right at the top. Seems unnecessary to me. I would bet the current track gauge can't even support LSM. How about we settle for a silent lift like Everest and Mine Train and updated visuals along the lift hill?
 

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