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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

lazyboy97o

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Indeed. However, still being a national move instead of an international move makes it less of a hassle. Shanghai's building codes, not to mention utility standards, material availiability, etc. are likely a bit more different compared to Florida than the changes from California to Florida.
Big issues like climate and soil conditions are still different. Transformers was not accomplished because it was easier, but because of a massive commitment the likes of which Universal is not interested in repeating.
 

HoldenC

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The facility was not even designed when the attraction was announced
I mean no?? Wasnt it already open at SDL?? I guess I'm just confused and ill informed at how this stuff works. But it truly shouldn't be more than taking the blueprints and copy and pasting. Please inform because you seem to be extremely knowledgable on the subject
 

lazyboy97o

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I mean no?? Wasnt it already open at SDL?? I guess I'm just confused and ill informed at how this stuff works. But it truly shouldn't be more than taking the blueprints and copy and pasting. Please inform because you seem to be extremely knowledgable on the subject
 

justintheharris

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The facility was not even designed when the attraction was announced.


The effort to review and adjust for code still had to be undertaken as a building designed for the California Building Standards Code would not meet the requirements of the Florida Building Code.


Neither Disney nor Universal act as their own general contractor. Neither is doing the majority of the building and each project has its own team of creative people, many who will be full time on that single project. Being officially confirmed is a dumb requirement as by that measure lots of projects are somehow started after construction has begun.
There is a pressure to complete announced projects by a deadline more so than unannounced ones USUALLY. In most case scenarios, Disney or Universal will feel more pressure to finish up a project that has already been announced than to really fixate on one that has not been.
 

lazyboy97o

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There is a pressure to complete announced projects by a deadline more so than unannounced ones USUALLY. In most case scenarios, Disney or Universal will feel more pressure to finish up a project that has already been announced than to really fixate on one that has not been.
Not usually. Unannounced projects still have deadlines. This idea that there is only a small team of Imagineers or Universal Creatives working on everything is not true. Projects get dedicated staff who are not going to be concerned about the announced project they are not working.
 

No Name

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Space Mountain sure as hell won’t be “embarrassed” to have better sightlines and placement than either hella expensive coaster being built 50 years later. The fact that both the Tron and GotG coasters have exteriors that are revealing in ways I only expect at a park like Six Flags is sad. Thematically Space Mountain is obviously stronger as well. It needs work but there’s a reason it’s iconic, and that’s because they gave a about it in relation to what’s around.
 

justintheharris

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Not usually. Unannounced projects still have deadlines. This idea that there is only a small team of Imagineers or Universal Creatives working on everything is not true. Projects get dedicated staff who are not going to be concerned about the announced project they are not working.
I'm well aware there are individual teams working on everything. But resources can be diverted from one project to another if necessary. Allegedly that's what's been happening with Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway and Star Wars land. Star Wars land has been taking up all the resources which is why Runaway Railway has been delayed.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Did it occur to you that Disney is building Star Wars land, Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway, Ratatouille, Guardians of the Galaxy, a skyliner system, new hotels and more all while trying to construct Tron? Universal had nothing to focus on other than Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure. Reminder before you reply: a third theme park is not officially confirmed nor is the Jurassic park roller coaster.

Those things not being announced doesn't change the fact that construction work is happening right now. So Universal was working on Hagrid, Jurassic Park Coaster, Terminator 3D replacement, Today Show Cafe, two new resorts and the land prep for a third gate at the same time. Yes, not as much as Disney, but it's not accurate to say Hagrid was the only thing they were working on.
 

justintheharris

Well-Known Member
Those things not being announced doesn't change the fact that construction work is happening right now. So Universal was working on Hagrid, Jurassic Park Coaster, Terminator 3D replacement, Today Show Cafe, two new resorts and the land prep for a third gate at the same time. Yes, not as much as Disney, but it's not accurate to say Hagrid was the only thing they were working on.
We still don't know for fact whether or not Universal is indeed building a third gate. Does it seem likely right now? Of course. Is it a guarantee? No. For all we know, they could still surprise us and say "we're building 20 new hotels." Nothing is official until announced to the public. And there's not nearly as much pressure to finish a project with no announced completion date as there is for a roller coaster that had an opening date of June 13th. I'm simply saying that projects with announced completion dates are going to receive more attention and have more pressure to complete than a project that has no exact completion date and can have its completion pushed back without the public ever really knowing about it.
 

justintheharris

Well-Known Member
I can 100% confirm that is NOT what happened with Runaway Railway. You guys can believe me or not believe me. But that is not the MMRRR tea.
Well I don't believe you and I know some people close to the project. I don't give specifics or ask them for specifics usually nor do I want to give out any information that could get them into trouble. All I've been told is part of the reason they're running behind is because Star Wars is receiving all the focus at the expense of Runaway Railway.
 

justintheharris

Well-Known Member
So are we to understand, from the foregoing posts, that BOTH announced and unannounced projects have deadlines? Wow!
Of course both have deadlines. But if you absolutely have to push back a deadline, will you do it for the project with the announced deadline or the unannounced deadline? In the vast majority of cases, I'm assuming the latter.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
We still don't know for fact whether or not Universal is indeed building a third gate. Does it seem likely right now? Of course. Is it a guarantee? No. For all we know, they could still surprise us and say "we're building 20 new hotels." Nothing is official until announced to the public. And there's not nearly as much pressure to finish a project with no announced completion date as there is for a roller coaster that had an opening date of June 13th. I'm simply saying that projects with announced completion dates are going to receive more attention and have more pressure to complete than a project that has no exact completion date and can have its completion pushed back without the public ever really knowing about it.

Whether they are building a third gate or not, work is going on to prep land for something. Just because a project hasn't been announced to the public doesn't mean it doesn't have an exact completion date.
 
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danlb_2000

Premium Member
Of course both have deadlines. But if you absolutely have to push back a deadline, will you do it for the project with the announced deadline or the unannounced deadline? In the vast majority of cases, I'm assuming the latter.

But how many of the things you mentioned for Disney have firm public dates?
 

justintheharris

Well-Known Member
But how many of the things you mentioned for Disney have firm public dates?
None except Star Wars which is why Runaway Railway is delayed. Would Disney rather push back Runaway Railway or come out and say “Sorry but Star Wars won’t be done by August 29th?” Obviously the former which is what I suspect happened.
 

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