News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

We still don't know for fact whether or not Universal is indeed building a third gate. Does it seem likely right now? Of course. Is it a guarantee? No. For all we know, they could still surprise us and say "we're building 20 new hotels." Nothing is official until announced to the public. And there's not nearly as much pressure to finish a project with no announced completion date as there is for a roller coaster that had an opening date of June 13th. I'm simply saying that projects with announced completion dates are going to receive more attention and have more pressure to complete than a project that has no exact completion date and can have its completion pushed back without the public ever really knowing about it.

20 new hotels that share one massive parking lot? There is enough public information our there. Things are official before they are announced to the public. You keep changing this metric because it makes no sense. Construction is going on for something at various locations and the fact that you personally do not know what those things are has absolutely no bearing on their timetables or their importance.

The re-allocation of resources to Star Wars is only part of the reason for Runaway Railroads delay.

And those types of resources are typically not something that will be critical to maintaining the timetable of something in design or earlier in construction.

 

[justintheharris]

20 new hotels that share one massive parking lot? There is enough public information our there. Things are official before they are announced to the public. You keep changing this metric because it makes no sense. Construction is going on for something at various locations and the fact that you personally do not know what those things are has absolutely no bearing on their timetables or their importance.

Well forgive me for waiting until something is officially announced to believe it is a 100% legit done deal. That's just how I see things. I do indeed believe Universal is building a third park. But if it turns out it's something else, I can't say I'm incredibly shocked given a third park has not been announced yet.
What has a bearing is whether or not there is an announced completion date.
Announced completion date = we'd better make that date or else people are angry
Unannounced completion date = we should make it by this date but if it needs to be pushed back, we can do so without a public fallout

 

[justintheharris]

Well M&MRR was supposed to be the Fall of 2019, which was officially announced on their website for almost a year before being changed to Spring 2020.

You are correct but it didn't have a specific date such as October 1st.

 

[jt04]

The re-allocation of resources to Star Wars is only part of the reason for Runaway Railroads delay.

my guess is the major reason.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Well forgive me for waiting until something is officially announced to believe it is a 100% legit done deal. That's just how I see things. I do indeed believe Universal is building a third park. But if it turns out it's something else, I can't say I'm incredibly shocked given a third park has not been announced yet.
What has a bearing is whether or not there is an announced completion date.
Announced completion date = we'd better make that date or else people are angry
Unannounced completion date = we should make it by this date but if it needs to be pushed back, we can do so without a public fallout

What you believe is completely irrelevant. It has no bearing. Timetables are determined before any announcement and are driven by financial projections, not some arbitrary guess that only becomes firm when marketing is given the go ahead.

 

[danlb_2000]

my guess is the major reason.

Based on what?

 

[jt04]

Based on what?

Assuming the fixed announcement for GE puts it on the front burner. Everything else is secondary. IMO.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Plus Space Mountain can never be perfect until it is a launched coaster.

Which has the added benefit of increasing capacity btw.

If it had a launch, it would likely have to go from two tracks to one.

 

[jt04]

If it had a launch, it would likely have to go from two tracks to one.

Tron makes that feasible now. I'd like to see a mash up of slinky dog, mine train technologies and gotg (or the new uni coaster) type ride scenes. After the 50th celebrations that is.

 

[jt04]

If it had a launch, it would likely have to go from two tracks to one.

Interesting to note that Disney already has the tech for merging two load platforms feeding a single track coaster.

 

[HoldenC]

Well forgive me for waiting until something is officially announced to believe it is a 100% legit done deal. That's just how I see things. I do indeed believe Universal is building a third park. But if it turns out it's something else, I can't say I'm incredibly shocked given a third park has not been announced yet.
What has a bearing is whether or not there is an announced completion date.
Announced completion date = we'd better make that date or else people are angry
Unannounced completion date = we should make it by this date but if it needs to be pushed back, we can do so without a public fallout

It is more than well known a new UNI park is coming to Orlando. They've got the land cleared and other prep work ongoing. Not sure what further proof you need.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Tron makes that feasible now. I'd like to see a mash up of slinky dog, mine train technologies and gotg (or the new uni coaster) type ride scenes. After the 50th celebrations that is.

Do we need a launched, indoor coaster next to a launched, mostly indoor coaster?

 

[jt04]

Do we need a launched, indoor coaster next to a launched, mostly indoor coaster?

Yes, especially in the MK. Should be more accessible for younger people which Tron isn't so much.

GotG will serve as the thrill ride through space that Space Mountain once was. Everyone is happy at the end of the day.

 

[Lensman]

Do we need a launched, indoor coaster next to a launched, mostly indoor coaster?

You have a point.

The launch aspect is the only thing that will be different "now", right, though?

I tend to prefer launched coasters over chain lift coaster and I think it would be more appropriate to the concept of a trip to space, as is the theme of Space Mountain.

BTW, why would it have to go from two tracks to one in the conversion to launched?

 

[ToTBellHop]

You have a point.

The launch aspect is the only thing that will be different "now", right, though?

I tend to prefer launched coasters over chain lift coaster and I think it would be more appropriate to the concept of a trip to space, as is the theme of Space Mountain.

BTW, why would it have to go from two tracks to one in the conversion to launched?

I think Disney will have more than enough launched coasters after Guardians and TRON open. I like variety and at least Space isn’t 3 lifts in a row like at Disneyland.

The tracks are pretty compact. I can’t imagine a launch allowing such tight turns to remain as they aren’t going to launch to 10 mph.

 

[jt04]

You have a point.

The launch aspect is the only thing that will be different "now", right, though?

I tend to prefer launched coasters over chain lift coaster and I think it would be more appropriate to the concept of a trip to space, as is the theme of Space Mountain.

BTW, why would it have to go from two tracks to one in the conversion to launched?

Modern steel coasters have a larger footprint than an old fashioned mouse style coasters.

 

[larryz]

It should only take a third of the time that Disney spends. Look how quickly the Hagrid coaster, with many more show scenes and complexities than Tron, was up and running from the time that Dragon Challenge closed. Disney drags their feet in order to spend as little money as possible by purposely and slowly stretching construction through as many fiscal years as possible.

 

[larryz]

If it had a launch, it would likely have to go from two tracks to one.

...and if it had a lunch, it would likely have been a QS instead of TS.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Modern steel coasters have a larger footprint than an old fashioned mouse style coasters.

Exactly. Look at Mine Train and Slinky Dog (and now Hagrid). To be fair, with WDW’s “blessing of size”, it shouldn’t need compact coasters. If we got a new track, I’d want a big one that fills the entire mountain with new effects. But my first choice would be to stay classic—two new coaster tracks with the same layout (but modern improvements like banking), on-ride audio, and 21st century effects. It wouldn’t be THAT expensive. They already have the building and updated the queue.

 

[justintheharris]

It is more than well known a new UNI park is coming to Orlando. They've got the land cleared and other prep work ongoing. Not sure what further proof you need.

I've seen photos of the land clearing. I just don't sell things at 100% until an official announcement is made.