Disneyhead'71
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What if they call it Toy Story Midway? Like Andy built a Carnival out of Tinker Toys and such.
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Toy Story Playland
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The Ticket lettering scheme was a way for Disney to charge more for the most popular rides since you bought tickets for each ride back in the day.
I imagine, if they were to implement that strategy today, theming, etc. wouldn't be as much of a consideration as popularity and demand would be.
Mike S
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I know how Disney used it. I was referring to how it's used in the fan community.
Exactly. Dumbo is nothing more than a basic carnival ride (though nicely themed) and it's one of the most popular rides in all of WDW.
If it's well done and adds much, much needed ride capacity, I'm all for it.
Not everything needs to cost $150 mil and push the technological limits of theme park design. That's exactly the philosophy that's led us to two under-developed parks as it is.
I'd rather have an entire Toy Story Playland consisting of 4-6 fun diversions than a bloated and overly-expensive attraction like Little Mermaid any day of the week. Add to the parks yearly with stuff like this and give us one major mind-blowing E-ticket every few years and I think most people would be ecstatic.
That's a problem with Avatar, too. It's great that you're spending $400-500 mil on two E-tix and an immersive environment, but why not spend another $15 mil and add 2 or 3 more of these kinds of rides to round out the area?
That's what we need, another carnival land.
I'm all for it if we could we move Dumbo there and build something at MK that's actually worthy of being a part of Fantasyland.
Mike S
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If you look at the rides that actually were E Tickets back then the argument could be made that it's because those were viewed as the best offerings each park had at that time.
When fans describe an attraction as an E Ticket today, even though the ticket system is long gone, I believe they're looking for modern comparisons to what these attractions were back then. The highest quality offerings the park has on its roster.
Fox&Hound
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This is my concern as well. How do you create a cohesive theme park with the varied IP's? Even RnRC and ToT- how do they fit together? I guess one highlights the best of tv and one radio-but Aerosmith really does not fit with the theme of that area at all. How does an out of date rock band fit with the old Hollywood feel they are going for? How will Toy Story blend into a Cars area (if happening) and then transition to Star Wars? I hope some of the money they are spending will help the park tell a story....
Goofyernmost
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ToT fits only because of the Twilight Zone connection which was Television. RcRC is as a studio and entertainment venue (hollywood studio's). It isn't about an out of date rock band or a long mothballed television show. It's about entertainment. Everything in there is about entertainment whether it's movies, television, stage shows, animation, etc. Even the hated "Sounds Dangerous" was too deep for today's park going neophytes. What is always said, we had to sit in the dark and listen to a lame show. Yup, that is what you had to do and if it hadn't shot high over their heads they would have realized that it was to show the importance of sound affects in the overall vision of any show. They started the show with characters that you could see. Then switched over to just sound affects and you were able to still follow the plot and picture the action. I guess those of us that were old enough to remember radio shows knew what was happening and we could construct sets in our imaginations that no Hollywood production company could hope to build. But, it was lost on all but a few.
In answer to your question about how Toy Story will blend into Cars land it is simply by being in the Pixar section of the park. Pretty simple to follow really. And Star Wars will not need to transition because like Fantasyland, Advertureland, Tomorrowland and the others are under the heading of Magic Kingdom, it will be in it's own separate area but still under the obvious heading of "Entertainment".
You could have said that about Horizons in 1983 if you didn't select an ending.
However, shock horror, I actually agree with something you've said. Star Tour is an E.
Entertainment. It's a park dedicated to entertainment. As long as it's based on a movie, tv show or music, it fits.
People are WAY over-thinking it.
MK is the biggest mish-mosh of themes ever but it works because it's all about fantasy. This works too if you just look at it from an entertainment perspective. You are being immersed in the world of entertainment.
Perfectly said (and I wish i had seen it before I wrote my post saying the same thing).
Not sure why it's so difficult for people to understand….
Seriously. No one cares. It's been debated on these boards for years and always will be.
Move on.
what would you call soarin? D or E
Pixie VaVoom
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Yeah - didn't I hear rumors of an Arendale-sleigh themed "Frozenado" 'spinner' ride ???
It should be a D. Everything aside from two hour waits points to a D. A good D but with the bland queue, exposed services, clearly visible ride system, blank screen on arrival (where's the show with that?) and a collection of hard edited isolated film clips it can't be a E.
The score could be though.
What could be good would be if they were willing to spend the money to make this area DHS's version of TDS's Mermaid Lagoon - all indoors (including Toy Story Midway Mania) - make the area look like Andy's bedroom with various toys (attractions) lying around the floor - that could potentially get rid of any sightline issues, although you could end up with a similar problem to Canada/Soarin'...
Mike S
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That's actually a pretty good assessment. I hope with Avatar Disney improves on some of Soarin's shortcomings.
ToTBellHop
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This has always been my issue with Soarin. It actually is a pretty awesome ride system but the finished product comes across as unpolished. Hopefully, the forthcoming updates can move it to a D+ or E-. Perhaps that is some of the same foolish optimism that my students have going into finals, though.
Wikkler
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I've never been on Soarin', but so far the ripoff at Busch Gardens Williamsburg called Europe in the Air sounds better just by comparison. It's got an actually themed queue, invisible ride system, the screen when you get on looks like a hangar, and they at least tried to tie the clips together with a cloud scene between destinations.
I think Soarin can get away with the flaws (they really all bothered me on my first experience - with the exception of the untamed queue as I first rode it at DCA and there the queue is at least lightly themed) because the sensation of flying is such a positive emotion. In my experience it is the only attraction that you regularly have the audience clapping at the end of the flight.