Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

Goofyernmost

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DoubleJ21 said:
Haha! :)I've always had a difficult time wrapping my head around time zones. I mean it's currently 4:01 PM tomorrow (June 19), in Sydney, Australia. And here I am on the 18th at 11:03 PM. I read actually that if you catch a plane from Sydney to LA at the right time, you can actually see 2 sunsets in one day.
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Time zones are fun. When I came home from Vietnam we left at 2:55 pm on Wednesday. We flew to Tokyo and across the Pacific for what seemed like a gazillion hours and landed in Seattle, Washington at 2:50 on that same Wednesday. We landed 5 minutes before we took off.
 
Kate F

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So if it's supposedly going to be 2 more years for TSL, how long do you guys think SWL is going to take? I was hoping for late 2019, but that's not looking too likely at the moment.
 
SirLink

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I have confirmation that the QS and Restrooms have been combined into the one structure.

TSL's budget was cut from $400 million to $250 million. The lift hill was cut so that all the stuff like the board game could be cut. The restrooms and QS was combined because one building is cheaper than 2. And in a little fit of passive aggressiveness, the imagineers cut the retail location (Al's Toy Barn).
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marni1971 said:
268 million is the current figure. Don't ask.
Planned to open second half of 2018.
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Now I don't mean to be a naysayer but when I came and stated that TSL budget was ballooned and they needed to deflate it everyone said "Nope", "it can't be that much", "$150milion max". I think a little self gratification would be in order if this project weren't such a mess. Oh and whilst we are in for a strange summer not the one @marni1971 and myself vaguely teasing earlier on in the the year. But they are aiming at this project to be $250million on paper. With a slight overspend 'if' things go wrong.Funny thing about work, history, and insanity: one of the ways to get the budget down was the A.S.S ride as "The Dumbo problem" to just have one and not the two currently envisioned. Now guess who is looking after that project the "Dumbo guy" and he been sticking his neck out. So the end result him wanting to cut the interactive elements round the coaster track to give it that something else. Obviously by doing that other things had to be cut in order to get more bang of your buck - certain things like merging toilets within another building make sense and should of been done from the start.

Next was informed that Al Toys Barn could get built as "faux" phase 2 project for TSL for the launch of TS4 Blu ray. You can't even make this news up anymore. Next the spending cuts on this project are being used, from people I've spoken with, to the lessen the cuts going on at other projects in DHS. Their potentially by the end of the year have ... all I'll say is their is a hesitancy to build TSL. They know they need attractions and capacity for next year and boy it ain't getting pretty in Burbank. Et tu Mickey ...
 
Marlins1

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SirLink said:
Now I don't mean to be a naysayer but when I came and stated that TSL budget was ballooned and they needed to deflate it everyone said "Nope", "it can't be that much", "$150milion max". I think a little self gratification would be in order if this project weren't such a mess. Oh and whilst we are in for a strange summer not the one @marni1971 and myself vaguely teasing earlier on in the the year. But they are aiming at this project to be $250million on paper. With a slight overspend 'if' things go wrong.Funny thing about work, history, and insanity: one of the ways to get the budget down was the A.S.S ride as "The Dumbo problem" to just have one and not the two currently envisioned. Now guess who is looking after that project the "Dumbo guy" and he been sticking his neck out. So the end result him wanting to cut the interactive elements round the coaster track to give it that something else. Obviously by doing that other things had to be cut in order to get more bang of your buck - certain things like merging toilets within another building make sense and should of been done from the start.

Next was informed that Al Toys Barn could get built as "faux" phase 2 project for TSL for the launch of TS4 Blu ray. You can't even make this news up anymore. Next the spending cuts on this project are being used, from people I've spoken with, to the lessen the cuts going on at other projects in DHS. Their potentially by the end of the year have ... all I'll say is their is a hesitancy to build TSL. They know they need attractions and capacity for next year and boy it ain't getting pretty in Burbank. Et tu Mickey ...
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Crazy stuff - multiple movies hitting the billion dollar mark, strong attendance at domestic parks but cutting every possible corner on a despately needed DHS expansion.
 
lazyboy97o

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Marlins1 said:
Crazy stuff - multiple movies hitting the billion dollar mark, strong attendance at domestic parks but cutting every possible corner on a despately needed DHS expansion.
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This land should be nowhere near where it is even at its cut down budget. The problem though is that the demand for cuts is coming from people who are absolutely clueless about the industry so they only care about the dollar amount.
 
Thanks phoenicians

Thanks phoenicians

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Honestly as long as the cuts are going towards preventing cuts from SWL then it makes me feel a bit better because imho a fleshed out SWL is much better and more important than a fleshed out TSL. That being said they could still try to make it look as though they still care about building this land and make it some what presentable...
 
ToTBellHop

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clemmo said:
Honestly as long as the cuts are going towards preventing cuts from SWL then it makes me feel a bit better because imho a fleshed out SWL is much better and more important than a fleshed out TSL. That being said they could still try to make it look as though they still care about building this land and make it some what presentable...
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Yes. $268m should pay for more than a bare-bones launched family coaster and a whip ride.
 
Stripes

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SirLink said:
Now I don't mean to be a naysayer but when I came and stated that TSL budget was ballooned and they needed to deflate it everyone said "Nope", "it can't be that much", "$150milion max". I think a little self gratification would be in order if this project weren't such a mess. Oh and whilst we are in for a strange summer not the one @marni1971 and myself vaguely teasing earlier on in the the year. But they are aiming at this project to be $250million on paper. With a slight overspend 'if' things go wrong.Funny thing about work, history, and insanity: one of the ways to get the budget down was the A.S.S ride as "The Dumbo problem" to just have one and not the two currently envisioned. Now guess who is looking after that project the "Dumbo guy" and he been sticking his neck out. So the end result him wanting to cut the interactive elements round the coaster track to give it that something else. Obviously by doing that other things had to be cut in order to get more bang of your buck - certain things like merging toilets within another building make sense and should of been done from the start.

Next was informed that Al Toys Barn could get built as "faux" phase 2 project for TSL for the launch of TS4 Blu ray. You can't even make this news up anymore. Next the spending cuts on this project are being used, from people I've spoken with, to the lessen the cuts going on at other projects in DHS. Their potentially by the end of the year have ... all I'll say is their is a hesitancy to build TSL. They know they need attractions and capacity for next year and boy it ain't getting pretty in Burbank. Et tu Mickey ...
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Could you clarify, are the interactive elements along the coaster being cut? Animatronics?
 
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doctornick

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MansionButler84 said:
Yes. $268m should pay for more than a bare-bones launched family coaster and a whip ride.
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Exactly. While it's probably true that the "sharp pencil guys" are too focused on numbers, it's absolutely ridiculous how inefficient WDI is with their budgets. Something needs to be done to get them under better control or else Disney is doomed to spend lavishly and get subpar results. You should be able to build a well executed TSL with a $268M budget -- neither of the rides or the decor should be all that costly. Heck, for that sort of money there should be at least an additional ride or show not to mention the full fledged gift shop.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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doctornick said:
Exactly. While it's probably true that the "sharp pencil guys" are too focused on numbers, it's absolutely ridiculous how inefficient WDI is with their budgets. Something needs to be done to get them under better control or else Disney is doomed to spend lavishly and get subpar results. You should be able to build a well executed TSL with a $268M budget -- neither of the rides or the decor should be all that costly. Heck, for that sort of money there should be at least an additional ride or show not to mention the full fledged gift shop.
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That kind of money should pay for something on the level of Diagon Alley, which it did. It should've been enough for a dark ride laden Pixar Place.
 
Thanks phoenicians

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Mike S said:
That kind of money should pay for something on the level of Diagon Alley, which it did. It should've been enough for a dark ride laden Pixar Place.
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Still waiting for the day when we get a pixar place that isn't just toy story...guess i'll keep waiting. As for the budgetary issues does nobody at WDI realize what UNI has done for the same price tags? I mean how hard is it for them to question and say wow same price, large gap in quality now why is that... I'd love to hear guesses as to what this land should cost
 

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