Mike S
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Exactly my point, it's cheap. Thanks for playing.
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Toy Story and Soarin Rumors
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flyerjab
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A thread just isn't a thread without a Universal is better, faster, and beating Disney comment... thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hey, you're welcome. If you look at most of my posts, you would know that I meant that as a joke.
DVCOwner
A Long Time DVC Member
I look at this two ways. First this park does need additional rides, but even if you added more rides to the park, just as many people would want to ride Toy Story and Soarin. So I do not think adding additions will reduce wait times on this two very popular rides. The only thing that will reduce the wait times is more capacity. So I would love to see both of these happen.
ParentsOf4
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Please examine Disney's 10Q and quarterly reports.
Domestic P&R capex is half what it was 2 years ago.
As a percentage of P&R revenue, domestic capex is at a post 9/11 level, a time when WDW was closing hotels, cancelling fireworks, and laying off employees.
Compared to previous years, today's reinvestment back into WDW is downright miserly.
Gosh. I think lots of people might choose to put off repairing the yeti if it meant that TSMM had a 1/3 faster line. Many (most?) people don't even know that the Yeti is broken, after all.
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I know. It's horrible. That's why no one ever wants to ride it.
Agreed. Additional rides are going to bring additional people into the park. Those people aren't going to just want to ride the new ride, they're also going to want to ride TSMM/Soarin'.
I agree, particularly with a new version Soarin' on the way eventually. These two rides have been around long enough that it's safe to say we are past the "it's the new ride" cause of long lines. Desire to ride isn't going to go down significantly, so adding capacity is the way to reduce the wait and increase guest satisfaction.
doctornick
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I think this is mostly true. The rides are popular and even long wait times do not deter people from riding them. Increasing the capacity is a guest-friendly thing to do.
But if TDO were to build other rides in those parks, it would probably decrease demand somewhat. At least some portion of the folks waiting in line are doing so because they are in the park and would rather wait 60 minutes for Soarin' that do an alternative attraction. And with TSMM, if you have young children, it might be the most important (only) thing in the park your kids want to do. If alternative rides existed, some people ride ride them and forgo the wait; this is particularly true for people who are riding multiple times who might opt to ride once only and then move on rather than re-ride if more alternative options exist.
Captain Neo
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PhotoDave219
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Looks like TSMM might be a "thing" based on a message I got last week. Apparently items are arriving backstage.
LongtimeReader
Active Member
To my knowledge, the work will begin after the ice rink departs.
Seeing people complain about adding capacity to rides that always have ridiculously long lines really shows the mentality of some people. Somebody said "The reason Soarin' never has a long wait at DCA is because there is more stuff to do." Soarin' gets long lines at DCA all the time, go on a weekend and its common for the line to be 60-90.
The fact that you think the park needs more rides has nothing to do with this: these are extremely popular and marketable rides that people see on the Discovery/Travel Channel and people are going to want to ride when they go to WDW. The only problem I have with these projects is that they took so long (10 years of angry customers before actually doing something to fix it).
The fact that you think the park needs more rides has nothing to do with this: these are extremely popular and marketable rides that people see on the Discovery/Travel Channel and people are going to want to ride when they go to WDW. The only problem I have with these projects is that they took so long (10 years of angry customers before actually doing something to fix it).
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Mike S
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Soarin' would make sense to expand capacity. Toy Story however would be taking over prime real estate for a new ride that would be a much better use of that space.
cw1982
Well-Known Member
What @Mike S said.
Besides, if there were more attractions to help spread the crowd, the line wouldn't get so long as often. Sure there would be days when it still happens, but the problem is that there are only two rides at Epcot that typically build that kind of a wait time while everything else is easily less than a 30 minute wait.
Adding capacity to a ride might help some, but it's like putting a band aid over a cut that needs stitches. The real solution has to involve more, or the park will still have capacity issues. At Epcot, Soarin absolutely needs a third theater, but Epcot also needs more rides (and no, I'm not talking about the Maelstrom overlay, because no matter what one's position is on that ride, the overlay doesn't add another ride).
HS absolutely has a dire need for more attractions. Mike hit the nail on the head when he said that adding capacity to TSMM is a bad idea if it sacrifices a potential area for another attraction.
cw1982
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That park needs all the help it can get. If Disney adds more rides, they won't have the capacity issues for that one as consistently as they do now, so they wouldn't need to turn around and spend money on adding on to TSMM as well.
Besides, if they make it so that people get in and out of that one quicker and then don't give them anything else to do, people might be less likely to eat on property if they're not staying for the whole day, since they'll finish their plans at that park earlier and not feel the urgency to buy food that they do if they've been waiting in a long line
Since this is TDO we're talking about, and they're not likely to do both (at least not in a timely manner), my vote is for the option that gives guests more choices.
BrerJon
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A construction photo of Maelstrom before the name was changed.