brkgnews
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Such a thing is obviously not welcome.How dare you bring logic, reason and facts to a Disney transportation thread. :lol:
Such a thing is obviously not welcome.How dare you bring logic, reason and facts to a Disney transportation thread. :lol:
Yes. Thank you. I don't mind speculation based on evidence that is seen. It's the automatic "bus crashed... must have been a cell phone" that I don't like. Same thing happened in the early bit of the monorail crash speculation.
(Although, "Thread Monitor" does sound like a wonderful title to have under my username :lookaroun)
I'd never have lived past 1996 if I cared about arguments online :lol:No problem. Not much you can do about the occassional troll.......
I believe he was giving the driver the presumption of innocence in this thread, not telling anyone to neither think nor speculate.....
Yes. Thank you. I don't mind speculation based on evidence that is seen. It's the automatic "bus crashed... must have been a cell phone" that I don't like. Same thing happened in the early bit of the monorail crash speculation.
(Although, "Thread Monitor" does sound like a wonderful title to have under my username :lookaroun)
No problem. Not much you can do about the occassional troll.......
Ok then, my bad. All is forgiven :kiss:
No, I don't automatically think it was a cell phone (just for the record). My fear is that if it was something like that, then it would make me feel even sadder.
Excuse me? I've been here 2 years longer than you have :ROFLOL:
Brings a song to mind-
Every day I get in the queue (Too much, the Magic Bus)
To get on the bus that takes me to you (Too much, the Magic Bus)
I'm so nervous, I just sit and smile (Too much, the Magic Bus)
Your house is only another mile (Too much, the Magic Bus)
Thank you, driver, for getting me here (Too much, the Magic Bus)
You'll be an inspector, have no fear (Too much, the Magic Bus)
I don't want to cause no fuss (Too much, the Magic Bus)
But can I buy your Magic Bus? (Too much, the Magic Bus)
Nooooooooo!
And yet you've posted all of 135 times in that stretch......
Your point? What's that got to do with anything?
I agree.
The call for next the generation of transport comes from a lack of understanding regarding the reality of how quests move about the property.
In one sense the property is like a city with rush hours. In the morning, you move a large group of people to the parks. In the evening you return them home. Realisticly, that amounts to about 3 horus in the morning and 2 hours at night. It is also a consistent observation of all resorts and parks for those time periods. Rail based vehicles would work but the wait times would increase because you can't easily increase the number of trains on a certain route.
The bigger problem, however, is that mini rush hours pop up at resorts and parks unpredictably during the day. Rail is not flexible enough to handle these situations even with their increased capacity.
In addition, if rail were instituted, there would be one stop at each resort out of both financial and operational concerns. People would certianly hate that. It is also likely that one train would not just service one resort but would serve several. Imagine the train that leaves Magic Kingdom serving WIlderness Lodge, Fort WIlderness, Port Orleans Riverside and French Quarter, Old Key West , Saratoga Springs and Downtown Disney. That could be quite a trip for a guest who just wants to get home at Saratoga Springs. Not to mention, once they arrive at the resort, in order to get to their section, they would then either walk or take an internal bus making several stops to get clsoer to their rooms.
Busses provide a flexible, cost effective solution to the realities of moving the people around the property. It may not be the most magical but there is no magic in hiking half a mile to your resort with a couple of sleepy toddlers in tow.
Managers drove to those locations and found the bus drivers sleeping/taking unauthorized breaks. The drivers were fired on the spot.
-Rob
PURELY SPECULATION:
Given this photo...
I wonder if perhaps the WDW bus driver was trying to keep an eye on the "merge point" to his left; and thus didn't quite notice a stopped bus in front of him. I've seen plenty of cars jet across multiple lanes from that curved ramp on the left to get over toward the right-hand tollbooths; I certainly keep an eye to my left when I drive through that part of property. People will do stupid stuff, and do it quickly, to try to avoid a line at the ticket plaza. So it would stand to reason that perhaps the driver looked ahead and saw a bus in the right lane (which is where they always wind up); supposedly its flashers were on, but thus far I've heard nothing to indicate it had out those hazard triangles that CDL vehicles are supposed to put out when they're disabled. So it's possible the WDW driver glanced ahead and saw a bus in the lane where buses normally are... didn't think much of it... and started concentrating a bit more on passenger vehicles zooming in from the left.
Again, PURE SPECULATION on my part.
I wish we had those managers in our department. 75% of the CMs would be gone.
Bus drivers are trained well. There is still no excuse to take your eyes off the road in front of you. They know the route well and could've slowed down well in advance for such things. I still believe it was simply a case of stupidity.
Last night I mentioned the wreck to a fellow CM. She said just 2 days ago she was tailgated by a Disney Bus trying to get into her lane to get off on a ramp. The bus got within 2 feet of her car trying to push her faster. She put her arm out the window and flipped him off. She said "I hope they had guests on board to see that and how ignorant he was." :lol:
Amazing' how know one ever blames the people at the top..Yes. Thank you. I don't mind speculation based on evidence that is seen. It's the automatic "bus crashed... must have been a cell phone" that I don't like. Same thing happened in the early bit of the monorail crash speculation.
(Although, "Thread Monitor" does sound like a wonderful title to have under my username :lookaroun)
Amazing' how know one ever blames the people at the top..
Amazing' how know one ever blames the people at the top..
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