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[marni1971]

Didn’t the onboard audio happen a few years prior, in 1995? Was it still considered part of the TL98 budget?

Think it was 96 but was part of the “new” land.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I like what they attempted for Tomorrowland 1998. Even bronze mountain- in context. But the project was so hampered by a sliced budget, it ruined what should have been. My one ride on Rocket Rods was fun, however.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Anyone know when CR's is supposed to be finished?

 

[Goob]

From what I’ve seen of Rocket Rods, it looks pretty fun and a great way to see Tomorrowland if you can’t have the Peoplemover.

BUT, why didn’t they just go back to the Peoplmover instead of building Rocket Rods?

 

[matt9112]

From what I’ve seen of Rocket Rods, it looks pretty fun and a great way to see Tomorrowland if you can’t have the Peoplemover.

BUT, why didn’t they just go back to the Peoplmover instead of building Rocket Rods?

I think the rods put a bit of stress on the system. @marni1971 would know a fare bit I'm sure. as far as reverting ? they decided they could remove it (changing to rocket rods) so it was expendable to some degree why bring it back? that costs money.

 

[marni1971]

I think the rods put a bit of stress on the system. @marni1971 would know a fare bit I'm sure. as far as reverting ? they decided they could remove it (changing to rocket rods) so it was expendable to some degree why bring it back? that costs money.

The rods put a lot of stress on certain sections of the track (as well as tore themselves apart). Nothing’s impossible of course but like you said it would cost.

 

[TJJohn12]

The rods put a lot of stress on certain sections of the track (as well as tore themselves apart). Nothing’s impossible of course but like you said it would cost.

The different propulsion system would also be a huge hurdle and cost as I see it.

I have to assume that if WDI was looking to re-implement Peoplemover at DL they'd go with the WDW MAPO linear motor design which seems far more reliable (and zone controllable) than the weird Goodyear kicker-tire/coasting arrangement from 1967. That would likely mean that the whole infrastructure would need to be replaced - both Rocket Rods damaged and not.

AND the construction operation would functionally need to be completely recreated from the ground up, as the Peoplemover is no longer a MAPO commercial product (and it only made it into Houston airport that I know of when it was).

I count the lucky stars that our coast didn't get "blessed" with Rocket Rods and we still have our functioning PeopleMover.

 

[marni1971]

AND the construction operation would functionally need to be completely recreated from the ground up, as the Peoplemover is no longer a MAPO commercial product (and it only made it into Houston airport that I know of when it was).

It was also installed under the Capitol in DC. And sold to Bombadier.

 

[TJJohn12]

It was also installed under the Capitol in DC. And sold to Bombadier.

I had no clue the Capitol train was MAPO!

 

[marni1971]

I had no clue the Capitol train was MAPO!

Info is a bit sketchy but at least two of the lines are WEDway derivatives IIRC.

 

[wdwgreek]

Info is a bit sketchy but at least two of the lines are WEDway derivatives IIRC.

I've ridden the ones in the capitol they connect some of the house office buildings to the Capital.

 

[trainplane3]

Some people on Twitter are saying the Toy Story Claw store in TL is now gone. That should free up a bit of space by not having people piling in around it and a bonus of not blocking CoP's sign from that angle.

 

[_caleb]

Rocket Rods wasn’t a bad ride. It was thrilling and made it feel like you were going faster than you really were. But without banked turns, the cars never had enough track to really get moving.

Losing the PeopleMover at DL was really sad. And the fact that the track is still there makes it even worse. I truly hope MK’s is maintained- it’s really a neat experience!

I know the propulsion system is different (and why MK’s track is flat as opposed to DL’s, which had a few different elevations), but is there any chance PeopleMover will see further development (new trains, inclined track, integration into Tron, etc.)?

 

[disneyC97]

Some people on Twitter are saying the Toy Story Claw store in TL is now gone. That should free up a bit of space by not having people piling in around it and a bonus of not blocking CoP's sign from that angle.View attachment 276761

I hope so it was so ugly

 

[MisterPenguin]

But without banked turns, the cars never had enough track to really get moving.

Even with banked turns, the ride would have had to slow down on the turn because the towers holding up the track weren't made to take strong lateral forces, only downward forces.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Some people on Twitter are saying the Toy Story Claw store in TL is now gone. That should free up a bit of space by not having people piling in around it and a bonus of not blocking CoP's sign from that angle.View attachment 276761

So much open space and so difficult to navigate because of so many 'things' arranged haphazardly throughout the space, which then throws people going off in all different directions. I feel like a ball in a pachinko game trying to get from one side to the other.

 

[NelsonRD]

Since this discussion has brought up the Rocket Rods, why couldn't DL just convert the Rocket Rod cars with people mover cars, and use the existing mechanics/propulsion to move them, at a much slower and constant speed of course.... Slow moving cars would eliminate the stress issue, and a simple way to add another attraction, while still getting a return on the Rocket Rods investment.

 

[Magicart87]

It was for Laugh Floor.

Proof... of MK overcrowding!
and a need to greenlight a Stitch replacement.

 

[trainplane3]

So much open space and so difficult to navigate because of so many 'things' arranged haphazardly throughout the space, which then throws people going off in all different directions. I feel like a ball in a pachinko game trying to get from one side to the other.

The exact same thing can be said about the tomb stones when leaving after RoE. It's like filling a nice open space with random crap just because you can is supported in the company.

Since this discussion has brought up the Rocket Rods, why couldn't DL just convert the Rocket Rod cars with people mover cars, and use the existing mechanics/propulsion to move them, at a much slower and constant speed of course.... Slow moving cars would eliminate the stress issue, and a simple way to add another attraction, while still getting a return on the Rocket Rods investment.

Martin said it best:

The rods put a lot of stress on certain sections of the track (as well as tore themselves apart). Nothing’s impossible of course but like you said it would cost.

Also, the Rocket Rod cars were destroyed. I'm not sure if all of them were but the majority were. So new track, ride systems, and vehicles would probably add up to be more then DL would want to spend sadly.

 

[_caleb]

Since this discussion has brought up the Rocket Rods, why couldn't DL just convert the Rocket Rod cars with people mover cars, and use the existing mechanics/propulsion to move them, at a much slower and constant speed of course.... Slow moving cars would eliminate the stress issue, and a simple way to add another attraction, while still getting a return on the Rocket Rods investment.

And they could have used strobe lights and a fan to simulate speed.