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Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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MisterPenguin said:
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Sonny Eclipse Removed from Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe, "Club Tinsel" Inexplicably Returns

Sonny Eclipse has been removed from Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe and Club Tinsel has inexplicably returned at Magic Kingdom
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See, this is one of those things where we should watch what they do instead of listening to what they say.

Josh says they’re flush with cash and the spending in parks won’t be affected by Disney+.

But then some issue may or may not have happened with the maintenance on an animatronic and now the largest entertainment and theme park company in the world tosses up something that a bunch of PTA moms threw together on a Saturday afternoon for a Homecoming dance photo spot on a $100 spending spree at Michael’s.
 
Fear

Fear

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
See, this is one of those things where we should watch what they do instead of listening to what they say.

Josh says they’re flush with cash and the spending in parks won’t be affected by Disney+.

But then some issue may or may not have happened with the maintenance on an animatronic and now the largest entertainment and theme park company in the world tosses up something that a bunch of PTA moms threw together on a Saturday afternoon for a Homecoming dance photo spot on a $100 spending spree at Michael’s.
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This isn't something they threw together today. They lifted the stage mechanism for AA maintenance and didn't strike the Club Tinsel Set from the Understage area from a month ago.
 
Fear

Fear

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celluloid said:
I was coming here to say that, and it is honestly worse that the temp Christmas set is still on that stage.
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Why? There was no real reason to strike it when, in a perfect world, Sonny should be working fine or with minimal downtime.

My read on the situation? He was behind cloaking devices for a bit, then Maintenance decided they had to remove him for whatever issues he's facing. Instead of having the mechanics exposed, they lifted the stage to keep it all flat, which had the old set. Not much they could do on short notice; it's probably not a trivial thing to break down that set.
 
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celluloid

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Fear said:
Why? There was no real reason to strike it when, in a perfect world, Sonny should be working fine or with minimal downtime.

My read on the situation? He was behind cloaking devices for a bit, then Maintenance decided they had to remove him for whatever issues he's facing. Instead of having the mechanics exposed, they lifted the stage to keep it all flat, which had the old set. Not much they could do on short notice; it's probably not a trivial thing to break down that set.
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Sonny being gone is a bummer, but things happen.

The answer to your why is because a stage set in a major theme park, viewed by guests is bad show. It implies something may occur.
Guest psychology. The fact that the stage has yet to be struck is showing the lack of any promptness.

I know for a fact that set itself could be gone with two men in ten minutes or less.
 
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celluloid

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Fear said:
Tell me you've never worked in theatre without telling me you've never worked in theatre.
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I don't have anything to prove to you. What do you want to know though? You say probably not trivial. It is not like there is a rig of source 4's there or anything much in the way of rigging.

I have been witness to a very small team that struck almost an entire HHN house in less than a week.

Strike Time is money in theater, the strike can be safely done very quickly. That set there is not exactly regional theater.

It is a DJ stage set. It can be off there very quickly. That stage was designed to be a situation of just that.

This is an example of Disney just not putting the effort into it yet. Whcih in a situation where the stage might have to be visible, which they know could happen as Sonny Eclipse may have to be worked on during park hours, results in this less than ideal showmanship.

Your statement is rude and baseless.

Do you need my IATSE card?
 
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Rich Brownn

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castlecake2.0 said:
They used that lower seating area as a dance party area.

Also that stage is the “roof” of Sonny’s stage, he’s lowered into the utilidors right now, probably getting some TLC
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In fact the lower area was designed as a dance floor (to mimic Disneyland's TLT) except with a roof. Of course, it never caught on and it was turned into just dining.
 
Rich Brownn

Rich Brownn

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ppete1975 said:
Heres my issue. What do you put in tomorrowland?
Is it supposed to be another planet? Is it earth in the future?
Originally it was earth in 1986 and showing what was coming soon with aluminum foil, the interstate system, the people mover, nuclear submarines, rockets to the moon, add in some hovercrafts and hoverpacks and its the jetsons meets the jet age that was super popular at the time (BTW we are talking disneyland)

Disney world added tomorrowland because they were roughly copying disneyland (greatest hits basically)
Outside of the entrance and in my opinion the buildings what screamed future?
Flight to the moon was futuristic still (as it was the feeling that when you grew up trips to outerspace would be like flying to another state)
america the beautiful-nope
circle vision 360- nope
skyway-nope (but transportation so ok)
If you had wings-nope

If is another planet or outerspace and we are leaning into fantasy not reality (unlike original tomorrowland)
stitch could have made sense
monsters inc could make sense
space ranger spin could make sense
astro orbiter it belongs if nothing else for movement
space mountain belongs
tron belongs
peoplemover isnt the future of travel but Ill gut anyone that tries to remove it
cop doesnt belong but ill gut you as well
speedway- doesnt belong in tomorrowland unless converted to electric or solar but needs to stay

If it was me and you gave me the budget I would restore the front entrance.
I would make a story for tomorrowland and decide what it is.
Are we stepping into earth 2134 (this means updating every decade)
Are we at a spaceport on another planet (this is how i see it now)
I would then lean into the story I would have a mayor (someone like sonny if its another planet and have more characters roaming) if its earth I would cast a mayor, maybe change it every few years. I would have digital posters everywhere that would try to sell you stuff using your magic band "hey bill have you tried Buzz lightyear cologne" (you could opt out of this)
And the mayor coming over the loud speakers explaining todays weather and make sure you get your space juice from some quick serv.
At that point you can go crazy and use any IP you want muppets from outer space, buzz, sonny eclipse, stitch, earth to ned

Or go future, get sponsors and have a spacex ride, basically mission to mars but updated to look realistic with todays technology
but theres the rub. What is futuristic today? in the 50s and 60s everything was new, the home of the future, plastics, aluminum microwaves washing machines color tv was still futuristic. The idea of going to the moon futuristic. Outside of space travel.. WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW. electric vehicles? solar? I dont feel those are futuristic, a better definition tv...yawn. Sadly there isnt any excitement over what is coming, or the future we will live in.

Tomorrowland as a concept may no longer be relevant.
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Ironically the one thing that turned out to be acually futuristic was the skyway. Nowdays many cities (and even Disney itself) use it for actual transportation within cities.
 
Rich Brownn

Rich Brownn

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Fear said:
Tell me you've never worked in theatre without telling me you've never worked in theatre.
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Heck I worked in a community theater that did 8 shows in 16 weeks. Saturday: Last performance, strike set Sunday: New set goes up Monday: Tech rehearsal Tue: Dress Rehearsal/preview Wed: Open. Only dark the next Sun/Mon. Following Saturday was rinse and repeat. (the tech crew of which I was part of worked the whole 16 weeks. Each show had its own cast).
 
ppete1975

ppete1975

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Rich Brownn said:
Ironically the one thing that turned out to be acually futuristic was the skyway. Nowdays many cities (and even Disney itself) use it for actual transportation within cities.
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Something like the skyliner, yes... this... not so much :). Btw I still wonder if todays larger people would have been an issue for the weight capacity on these.
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Ayla

Ayla

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aladdin2007 said:
Tomorrowland is a ghetto. Someone has really derailed this area. The only thing they have gotten right that someone actually got right was finally the new peoplemover narration. But the rest is a disjointed mess of emptiness, ugly paint, and no cohesion in design. My only hope with Tron they have an aesthetic they can follow and could use throughout, but they have known this for a long time and have done nothing.
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Didn't they go back to the old narration?
 
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celluloid

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ppete1975 said:
Something like the skyliner, yes... this... not so much :). Btw I still wonder if todays larger people would have been an issue for the weight capacity on these.
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It has not been a major issue at many other places still operating them.

Safety is more the way that these had to be "caught" when they landed in a turn around or station that would cause a concern.
 
Rich Brownn

Rich Brownn

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ppete1975 said:
Something like the skyliner, yes... this... not so much :). Btw I still wonder if todays larger people would have been an issue for the weight capacity on these.
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Well of course it was modified (just like the monorails were, or even today's phones). But the concept of it being used for transportation rather than a ski lift was a forward looking.
 
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EricsBiscuit

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