Tipping Mousekeeping

[flynnibus]

The problem is, if I get crappy service by a waiter, why would I want to give a tip or gratuity

Because unless it was so bad you didn't think the food was worth paying for at all and you are demanding a refund... you are still expected to pay for the service. The normal tips are not extra gratuity, they are what pays the person's wages. Penalize with no extra tip, penalize the tip if service was so bad it was an issue (but for that you really should be talking to the manager)... But don't "not tip". The tip is not all 'bonus' for them.

And in the pooled situation, you are penalizing everyone, not just the waiter you had an issue with.

 

[xdan0920]

2 of those three cites are hospitality industry themselves telling you how to treat their workers.. What do you think they are going to say when representing their constituents??

The argument here is that it's 'the norm'. Yet why do significant percentages do not agree and follow this norm?
Like 44% of people in 2012 - https://www.thestreet.com/story/12784791/1/hotel-maids-tip-or-not-tip.html
Or a 2014 survey where only 46% say they do - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/22/tipping-poll_n_5851336.html
Or a 2016 survey where only 46% say they do - http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-travel-briefcase-tipping-20160820-snap-story.html

If nearly half of people don't follow something, is that really the norm?? Or is it someone's suggested behavior?

Huff Post survey is the only one with a decent break down.

46% tip. 32% don't. The rest have never been in a position to tip.

My question would be of the 32% who don't tip, do they know better? Are they making a conscience stand against tip culture? Or did they just not realize it's customary to leave a couple bucks for housekeeping?

 

[LuvtheGoof]

Nope. Again, i am a well established 34 year old African American man. And I will add with a PH.D. I am part of the 1 percent of the United States. Thanks though.

Fair enough. There have been situations where I can see that happening. I'm glad you're not doing that.

 

[MichWolv]

Clearly those economists wasted their time... It's all defined by 'social norms'. They should have just been psychologists instead

And if it weren't for illogical emotional and psychological responses, we economists could create a far more efficient economy!

 

[xdan0920]

Also, I know their are people who will not tip at anytime. I find those people to be distasteful.

Goodness. Someone as distasteful as yourself finding another person distasteful. How does that work?

 

[Laketravis]

I went grocery shopping tonight and as I was about to check out this dang thread got me to thinking.......

I could go thru the self checkout lane and scan and bag my own groceries or I could head over to that cashier waiting by the register with no line who would scan my items, bag them for me, and ask with a smile if I needed any help getting them out to my car. And since she would be providing a service over and above the self checkout option available to me and I know she's probably not paid very much the nagging question immediately came to mind..........

Should I tip her?

 

[flynnibus]

My question would be of the 32% who don't tip, do they know better? Are they making a conscience stand against tip culture? Or did they just not realize it's customary to leave a couple bucks for housekeeping?

That's the point of survey design... proper sampling vs skewed pockets. Why isn't really the contention here... the standard is people preaching its the social norm... and my point with the cites is if 1/3 to 1/2 of people don't participate... its clearly not as black and white as some make it out to be.

Certainly some people in this thread have posted what I would consider unsatisfactory tipping behavior... but outside those 2 or so posters, the links above show them as not out liers when talking about housekeeping.

 

[flynnibus]

I went grocery shopping tonight and as I was about to check out this dang thread got me to thinking.......

I could go thru the self checkout lane and scan and bag my own groceries or I could head over to that cashier waiting by the register with no line who would scan my items, bag them for me, and ask with a smile if I needed any help getting them out to my car. And since she would be providing a service over and above the self checkout option available to me and I know she's probably not paid very much the nagging question immediately came to mind..........

Should I tip her?

There you go again trying to apply logic to what are clearly EMMOTIONAL decisions . You forgot to mention that bagger is making less than $10/hr and doesn't have a living wage.

I worked as a cashier at the grocery store back in the day, in an EXTREMELY busy store (we had non-stop lines till 11-1130 most nights). I can tell you very much your shopping experience can vary greatly by your cashier's performance... yet people don't tip them. They certainly do more than the bellhop whose job is 'don't mishandle it and try acting like a normal human'.

 

[xdan0920]

I went grocery shopping tonight and as I was about to check out this dang thread got me to thinking.......

I could go thru the self checkout lane and scan and bag my own groceries or I could head over to that cashier waiting by the register with no line who would scan my items, bag them for me, and ask with a smile if I needed any help getting them out to my car. And since she would be providing a service over and above the self checkout option available to me and I know she's probably not paid very much the nagging question immediately came to mind..........

Should I tip her?

Sure if you want. Nothing's stopping you.

 

[BuddyThomas]

It is hysterical watching all these people on here twisting themselves into knots trying in vain to justify not tipping housekeeping a dollar or two a day on their very expensive vacation. If you can afford to stay on property, it's simply amazing that you refuse to acknowledge your housekeeper with a small gratuity. Something tells me that if you leave the maid a buck or two, you'll still be able to afford to shove Mickey Pops and chicken fingers down your throat, and even pay the mortgage when you get home.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

http://www.sleephappens.com/shipping-delivery
http://www.belfortfurniture.com/p/faq#shipping
https://www.havertys.com/furniture/FAQ
https://www.ashleyfurniturehomestore.com/delivery-information

I guess no one told these guys about the social norms on delivery fees...

I said respectable furniture dealers.

 

[flynnibus]

I said respectable furniture dealers.

I could go on and on.. but your defiance is all that was needed to be out there. It says it alone.

It's ironic you picked that one.. because Furniture is one of the industries where delivery costs and lead times are so radically off compared to most retail experiences.

 

[Laketravis]

When you get invited to a white tie event, do you literally wear a white tie? And a black tie to a black tie event? If not, how did you know what the proper attire was?

Simply wear both!

 

[flynnibus]

It is hysterical watching all these people on here twisting themselves into knots trying in vain to justify not tipping housekeeping a dollar or two a day on their very expensive vacation. If you can afford to stay on property, it's simply amazing that you refuse to acknowledge your housekeeper with a small gratuity. Something tells me that if you leave the maid a buck or two, you'll still be able to afford to shove Mickey Pops and chicken fingers down your throat, and even pay the mortgage when you get home.

It's more amazing to me to see how people can twist themselves to justify why one position is worthy.. and another is not. Make sure you tip your attraction CMs... they are working hard to ensure you have the optimal ride!

 

[BuddyThomas]

It's more amazing to me to see how people can twist themselves to justify why one position is worthy.. and another is not. Make sure you tip your attraction CMs... they are working hard to ensure you have the optimal ride!

With all respect (seriously), you are being silly. You know damned well that housekeeping is a traditionally tipped position and a ride operator is not. You are just trying to spin it, and it's just not working. Sorry.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Here are some more "tips" from our country's delightful restaurant customers:

Annnnd after all of that, one good one:

 

[disney4life2008]

Honest question. At my job the janitor cleans my office every night. Do i tip him (though

Here are some more "tips" from our country's delightful restaurant customers:

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Annnnd after all of that, one good one:
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Halarious

 

[BuddyThomas]

Honest question. At my job the janitor cleans my office every night. Do i tip him (though


Halarious

Not for the waiters.

 

[MichWolv]

I went grocery shopping tonight and as I was about to check out this dang thread got me to thinking.......

I could go thru the self checkout lane and scan and bag my own groceries or I could head over to that cashier waiting by the register with no line who would scan my items, bag them for me, and ask with a smile if I needed any help getting them out to my car. And since she would be providing a service over and above the self checkout option available to me and I know she's probably not paid very much the nagging question immediately came to mind..........

Should I tip her?

I have many friends who would never think of using a self-checkout because they do not want to contribute to putting cashiers out of work. I myself rarely use them because I find that I'm really slow at scanning and bagging groceries. But I digress...

When I was younger (so much younger than today, I never needed anybody's help in any way -- I digress again), I was a bagger at a grocery store. When I had time, I was permitted to help people to their car with their groceries. And I was tipped about 60% of the time that I did that.

 

[flynnibus]

With all respect (seriously), you are being silly. You know damned well that housekeeping is a traditionally tipped position and a ride operator is not. You are just trying to spin it, and it's just not working. Sorry.

Traditional that more than half dont acknowledge... and a position that noone can justify with justifications that align with other tipped positions. Its 'traditional' only because some people insist it is... yet its not followed in practice.

It boils down to 'because i say so!' even tho it cant be articulated in any defendable way. Thats why many people don't subscribe to the 'suggestion'