News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Mr. Sullivan

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ROTR also breaks down, but that ride is infinitely more complex. I have no idea what they're doing, but makes me wonder if they are really going to meet their deadline or not. Having the ride shut down consistently like this is not a great look so far.
I don’t know that its a matter of complexity but rather they’ve done a lot of updates to the ride’s technical system and we know that their modern systems are incredibly sensitive. Not to mention Splash itself was also prone to breaking down a lot. Those two things are likely colliding as they’re starting to properly cycle with full show all day with actual riders (which also introduces another element to mess with the safety systems, even if by accident). These are technical rehearsals so its good this is happening now rather than public opening.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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These drawings are accurate to the figure as built.
From what I can tell in the video, they are not. That diagram shows a set of different facial expressions, including eyebrows, eye blinking, and mouth opening/closing. It would lead to the expectation of something similar to the Rocket Raccoon AA in Mission Breakout. The otter figure they built doesn't appear to have any facial movement whatsoever.
 

Professortango1

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Wasn’t looking for a debate, was just asking a question since you seemed so sure of it’s controversy despite that going against literally everything DL locals have ever told me about it. Was interested in being pointed to the thoughts of the opposite if it’s out there since the DL forum and servers I’ve joined spoke so highly of it.
Spoke highly about Mission BO? I'd say I've seen about 60% favourable to the new attraction. The majority to be sure, but myself and many others do also feel it was a downgrade overall due to issues that all have pointed out (facade, rethemed queue, screens, exposed scenic elements, narrative structure and plot, etc).

Feel free to search the DLR forums or DM if you want to know more.
 

Homemade Imagineering

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These drawings are accurate to the figure as built.
I do see it’s an artist concept only, which would make sense if this was to test different configurations of his design. Beyond that only 2 figures were made for him of the exact pose shown on the diagram, the other 2 motion profiles shown were not used, indicating they may have initially planned on making his character into a more complex AA.

He also appeared in that old boat concept art with some more side critters present which never made it in alongside Naveen. That and Bruno Campos being absent from the final product just makes me wonder how much was cut. This wasn’t a disaster by any means that some make it out to be, but it leaves alot to be desired when those original concept pieces hinted more than what we received in the end.
 

Mr. Sullivan

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Spoke highly about Mission BO? I'd say I've seen about 60% favourable to the new attraction. The majority to be sure, but myself and many others do also feel it was a downgrade overall due to issues that all have pointed out (facade, rethemed queue, screens, exposed scenic elements, narrative structure and plot, etc).

Feel free to search the DLR forums or DM if you want to know more.
Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for
 

yensidtlaw1969

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From what I can tell in the video, they are not. That diagram shows a set of different facial expressions, including eyebrows, eye blinking, and mouth opening/closing. It would lead to the expectation of something similar to the Rocket Raccoon AA in Mission Breakout. The otter figure they built doesn't appear to have any facial movement whatsoever.
Those are options for the character's expression, not indicative of intended movement.

The arrows on the diagram are there to show the intended motion for the character.
 

Ismael Flores

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That lighting package is what should be around Pandora more
exactly, seems like they purposely under lit the whole inside to hide the fact of empty spaces and then brightly lit the clumps of AA's with saturated unnatural lighting. The lighting along with the sound selection also seems to be at odds. If you were going to create a nighttime mood by making it mostly dark to hide the lack of critters at least add to the soundtrack more audio that allows us to hear what the bayou at night sounds like. I have experienced bayous and the amount of life in one is amazing whether they are visible or not. They failed to create a mood for the environment instead they blast the music and kill it.

I am hoping that it is just terrible videos that are making it look and feel this way and that in person it will be much better.
 
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Professortango1

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exactly, seems like they purposely under lit the whole inside to hide the fact of empty spaces and then brightly lit the clumps of AA's with saturated unnatural lighting. The lighting along with the sound selection also seems to be at odds. If you were going to create a nighttime mood by making it mostly dark to hide the lack of critters at least add to the soundtrack more audio that allows us to hear what the bayou at night sounds like. I have experienced bayous and the amount of life in one is amazing whether they are visible or not. They failed to create a mood for the environment instead they blast the music and kill it
What's sad is that Disney already created a fantastic bayou experience. It has a gator, southern music, fireflies, and a fun drop. You would think they could easily replicate that experience with a ride that is similar in ride system.

The bayou sequence in Pirates is so simple yet immersive, it's a wonder why they couldn't take cues from their own success.
 

Ismael Flores

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I noticed that somehow it seems to be a trend, Ever since they started updating the lighting to LEDS they have changed the lighting for the worse. Just because they can use every color possible in an RGB color pallet does not mean they should.

Of course I have worked with color for 36 years in my profession so I am a bit bias. For example big thunder mountain in that picture looks comical. The color hues would work better if they were subdued a bit especially since the mountain is inspired by a real location.
 

Trauma

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Why is everything even semi-positive a bot? Why is it so impossible that some people just like it?
I didn’t say everyone.

There is a pattern of positive comments with just a few words changed, followed by the same chain of emojis.

Disney has already been caught red handed with fake twitter reviews and these YouTube comments follow the exact same pattern.
 

LittleBuford

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It's been interesting in the last few days, in regards to online reactions to the video. Initially, it was almost all negative, but now the people who wanted the re theme all along either don't like it but will never admit it, or are on a pixie dust high and like it for their little princesses, are starting to post comments, and alot of them always involve the same rude, dismissive, passive-aggressive phrases that they have been spouting for years. "
You’re not the first person to say this, but I really don’t see it. If anything, there was a flurry of positive responses right after the video came out, and it’s been overwhelmingly negative since then. Those with good things to say remain very much in the minority. For the most part, they’ve been perfectly polite, while others have branded them trolls and bots for daring to have a difference of opinion.
 

Ghost93

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Do you think if they went back in and filled in some dead space, with more characters, it would improve things?

Is there a reasonable fix they could make in the coming years, to make the ride just a bit stronger?
The ride is easily salvageable. Add in some more critters and NAVEEEN during the "Going Down the Bayou" section.

And most importantly, add in some type of tension. There are one of two ways to do this I think:

1. Establish that we are running late to the party via ride dialogue to create a sense of urgency. Mama Odie shrinking us and sending us down the log flume could be a way to give us a "shortcut" so we make it to the party in time. It's not much, but would give narrative reason for us shrinking and us plunging down a 50+ drop.

2. Completely overhaul the Laughing Place/Dig A Little Deeper section so that ghost of Dr. Facillier — not Mama Odie — shrinks us. The firefly screens can be replaced with Facilier's shadows and friends on the otherside. It gives the story a smidgen of conflict and tension and then the lift hill could have the chants of "Are you Ready!?" The Mama Odie animatronic on the lift could remain as is, only now she is using her magic to defeat Dr. Facillier instead of merely just resizing us.
 

Professortango1

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The ride is easily salvageable. Add in some more critters and NAVEEEN during the "Going Down the Bayou" section.

And most importantly, add in some type of tension. There are one of two ways to do this I think:

1. Establish that we are running late to the party via ride dialogue to create a sense of urgency. Mama Odie shrinking us and sending us down the log flume could be a way to give us a "shortcut" so we make it to the party in time. It's not much, but would give narrative reason for us shrinking and us plunging down a 50+ drop.

2. Completely overhaul the Laughing Place/Dig A Little Deeper section so that ghost of Dr. Facillier — not Mama Odie — shrinks us. The firefly screens can be replaced with Facilier's shadows and friends on the otherside. It gives the story a smidgen of conflict and tension and then the lift hill could have the chants of "Are you Ready!?" The Mama Odie animatronic on the lift could remain as is, only now she is using her magic to defeat Dr. Facillier instead of merely just resizing us.
Can't use Facilier.Deemed too problematic
 

doctornick

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Well in person reviews from the Cast are more positive than the response to the video. Tiny sample size given breakdowns.

Really struggling to not watch the video…

Realistically I'm sure it will be a perfectly enjoyable experience (well, when it isn't breaking down). I don't think people are largely going to ride and say they disliked or hated it.

Preferring Splash to TBA or feeling it is a downgrade is a far cry from saying that TBA is in a vacuum a bad ride.
 

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