Midwest Elitist
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This video probably saved Tokyo. It demonstrates that Imagineering stateside his lost all it's focus and can't be trusted to replace TDLs #1 ride.
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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mightynine
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Well, I hope WDI got some good food while they were here researching, because I’m just not seeing where that all went.
I think Louis hears the frogs in the log (that's why he's half in it). And so, to get to the frog band, Odie shrinks us down to recruit them for the party.
Brer Panther
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That friend of yours who claimed this would be great? I'm now even more suspicious of his claims that the Disneyland version will retain all the America Sings animatronics. None of their Magic Kingdom counterparts survived the retheme we got.
I'm sure there's gonna be people claiming this is better than Splash Mountain because it's INCLUSIVE and NOT RACIST.
I'm so tempted to make a salt mine joke.
Yeah, it's the animatronics in the Little Mermaid ride that look cheap.
I saved all my hatred for Bob Iger, for what it's worth.
The vultures being replaced by a screen with that hideous CGI Mama Odie on it is, quite possibly, the most appalling thing I've seen all day.
Yeah, where the heck ARE the spoonbills?
LittleBuford
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wishesnighttimespec
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AdventureHasAName
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Even if Disney agreed to do the complete renovation for free, what incentive would OLC have to have a super-popular attraction shut down for a year while it was being re-constructed? And Disney would never agree to doing it for free.
Brian
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No, they had previews for WDI today.
PizzaPlanet
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It still feels like the foundation is there for something great if they wanted to admit defeat try again. With some more money they could redo the story and dialogue, add some more characters to the empty spaces, and even add shadows of Dr. Facilier to the laughing place and lift hill (isn’t it mostly screens anyway?). But I think the chances of that are slim to none.
Salt Mine!
duncedoof
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Everything wrong with current storytelling in the Parks in one image.The graphics team strikes again . . .
Professortango1
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I think assignments can work as well. Convert Splash to a Tiana attraction is doable enough where many were positive about the idea beforehand. Even with the mandate that they want to avoid Facilier and make it a sequel could still yield positive results.
But a plotline to a major E-ticket being...gathering musicians? And then to not even have the musicians found in unique and interesting ways, but to be already jamming out?
The music also really perplexes me as I am but a humble fan and lay person yet I easily understood the underscore growing into musical numbers aspect of the original design and yet these has pre-established tracks simply dropped in where they fit best. Did they not have the money to record a new ride score? Or have any of the new characters singing?
A random gator sang to me to take him along on my journey previously. Possums serenaded me from above. A rabbit family and possum family held each other close and told their children the horrors that awaited Brer Rabbit. Two vultures taunted us before our fall. And we still had plenty of silent fun characters like a Racoon with Harmonica and Porcupine playing a turtle shell and a full chorus of gospel animals celebrating Brer Rabbit's victory and lesson learned.
Now....we have Tiana, Louis, and Mama Odie talking to us. That's it. 3 characters who have unique voices, and most of the time those unique voices are spouting generic dialogue instead of singing or saying something interesting.
As someone else pointed out, the whole thing lacks urgency. Splash's design asks very basic questions...what do the drops mean.
The first one was the drop into the world of Brer Rabbit, now its a drop into the world of Tiana. Except we already saw her and Louis outside.
The second drop was dropping into a different tone and world, seeing Brer Rabbit being mischievous and suffering for it. Now, we are changing into small selves to find more musicians. So what we did in the first part of the ride, but doing it again without any change to the emotion or structure of our adventure.
Which leads us to lift and third drop. The climax of the attraction. The original had this be the result of Brer Rabbit's attitude in the previous scene. He was in trouble. WE are in trouble. We are heading up high and Brer Rabbit is tricking Brer Fox to toss him from this height into a break of sharp thorns. Now, Odie has decided we were small long enough and I'm not sure if the lift hill is supposed to be us getting bigger at a slow pace and then we see her and we take a short cut down a cliff. Why? Are we late? There hasn't been urgency so far. And the drop ends with a passive cool-down section, so there's no urgency after the drop.
The lack of answers to what the drops do for our story seems to lay at the feet of imagineers. They didn't understand how the 3-act story fit into this ride with 3 drops.
AdventureHasAName
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Please tell me all the big deal nonsense they made out of the research into Louisiana salt mines wasn't so they could hang a sign on the wall of the queue that said "salt mines" and have that explain why the Splash Mountain queue is unchanged in areas.
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LittleBuford
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As I said earlier, I’m not of the opinion that good storytelling is beyond the capabilities of today’s Imagineers. I’m trying to keep my criticisms specific.
Such a shame
My mom and I both watched the POV (I watched twice, her once). It looks visually fine, and the music is good.
But, the rest is a mess. The story is not cohesive (whatever story is there). There is no conflict or buildup to the main event (the drop).
Biggest issue for us though, is that this is not a fitting ride for the PATF film. It deserved so much better: has one of the best villains to translate to an attraction, many interesting characters, and scenes that would visually translate well to a ride. Unfortunately, they did none of this.
My mom and I both watched the POV (I watched twice, her once). It looks visually fine, and the music is good.
But, the rest is a mess. The story is not cohesive (whatever story is there). There is no conflict or buildup to the main event (the drop).
Biggest issue for us though, is that this is not a fitting ride for the PATF film. It deserved so much better: has one of the best villains to translate to an attraction, many interesting characters, and scenes that would visually translate well to a ride. Unfortunately, they did none of this.
Imagineering taking a well deserved victory lap.
Coaster Lover
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Really makes you appreciate how perfectly set-up the drop was in the original ride... the fun and frivolous laughing place transitioning into the warning (using the same song in a minor tone), then the ominous vultures, the "don't throw me into the briar patch" reverse psychology, then the jubilant escape with the zip-a-dee-do-da music... it really was a brilliant sequence...
JoeCamel
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Only Joe can answer that question with his years of experience, glad he is consulting with the company again
yensidtlaw1969
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Tiana is throwing a party at her home for the city of New Orleans - Tiana's Foods is catering.
I mean, it's a Cork Board.
What should it look like?
LittleBuford
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The things posted on the board could (and should) look a lot better than they do.