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celluloid

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I don't have any. How old are yours?
3 and 9.

Anyone under ten years old has been raised in a way that my generation was raised by The Disney Channel.
Through Netflix, Illumination and Dreamworks prior to and concurrently with Disney Plus coming in later.

The number one streaming service in the world has had Dreamworks spin off shows and any major kids release that has been a hit in theaters besides Toy Story 4 and Moana(daughter being 3 missed out on that one) the hits for the kids have all been Illumination and Dreamworks.

I teach public school, and the kids who are now in HS have much less love for Disney than was there when I was school-aged. They don't have the connection because to them, Disney is primarily Star Wars, lackluster updates to classics and what did they buy are they going to change now?
It reminds me very much of what my father went through with Disney in the 70s. Where it was seen as not cool to be a fan, but at least they still had a lot of releases.

Jurassic World, Potter and Dreamworks/Illumination have positioned Universal quite well in the eyes of the young and appealing of current generation. All have either successful spin offs in video games as ongoing media or television streaming.
New movies from Illumination and Dreamworks continue to be popular and even their lesser hits, are profitable and successful.

It is a different time.
 
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Ghost93

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I don't get complaining about Tiana/Princess and the Frog not being well known enough or relevant enough for a ride when the preceding version of the ride was based on a film that's been essentially banned by the company for almost 40 years and 99% of the population under 45 has never seen.
 

Bayou

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With a major typo of "Blue Sky's"...seems kind of fake to me.
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Disgruntled Walt

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I don't get complaining about Tiana/Princess and the Frog not being well known enough or relevant enough for a ride when the preceding version of the ride was based on a film that's been essentially banned by the company for almost 40 years and 99% of the population under 45 has never seen.
You didn't need to see SotS to enjoy SM, since it told a standalone story. TBA is a sequel ride. It helps to have familiarity with the characters when you see a sequel.

That said, I'm not saying Tiana isn't relevant or well known enough. I just think a sequel ride is dumb idea.
 

celluloid

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I don't get complaining about Tiana/Princess and the Frog not being well known enough or relevant enough for a ride when the preceding version of the ride was based on a film that's been essentially banned by the company for almost 40 years and 99% of the population under 45 has never seen.

Who said not popular enough?

Only thing was ever said was you are kidding yourself if you think it is as relevant as Kung Fu Panda and Pussnboots having a land opening the same season.
 

Sir_Cliff

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3 and 9.

Anyone under ten years old has been raised in a way that my generation was raised by The Disney Channel.
Through Netflix, Illumination and Dreamworks.

The number one streaming service in the world has had Dreamworks spin off shows and any major kids release that has been a hit in theaters besides Toy Story 4 and Moana(daughter being 3 missed out on that one) the hits for the kids have all been Illumination and Dreamworks.

I teach public school, and the kids who are now in HS have much less love for Disney than was there when I was school-aged. They don't have the connection because to them, Disney is primarily Star Wars and lackluster updates to classics.
It reminds me very much of what my father went through with Disney in the 70s. Where it was seen as not cool to be a fan, but at least they still had a lot of releases.
I just find it very hard to believe kids are so indifferent to Disney when Disney animated features continue to be among the most-streamed films every year. Usually, a Disney animated feature is the most-streamed film. If Dreamworks is so popular on the number one steaming service, why were Moana and Encanto the first and second most-steamed movies in the USA in 2023, Elemental the 4th and Frozen the 7th? Where were the Dreamworks films?
 

Bayou

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I just find it very hard to believe kids are so indifferent to Disney when Disney animated features continue to be among the most-streamed films every year. Usually, a Disney animated feature is the most-streamed film. If Dreamworks is so popular on the number one steaming service, why were Moana and Encanto the first and second most-steamed movies in the USA in 2023, Elemental the 4th and Frozen the 7th? Where were the Dreamworks films?
Not on Disney+
 

celluloid

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I just find it very hard to believe kids are so indifferent to Disney when Disney animated features continue to be among the most-streamed films every year. Usually, a Disney animated feature is the most-streamed film. If Dreamworks is so popular on the number one steaming service, why were Moana and Encanto the first and second most-steamed movies in the USA in 2023, Elemental the 4th and Frozen the 7th? Where were the Dreamworks films?

Since you don't have kids let me help explain.

Many of the streaming time is of a kid replaying the same songs or background noise for toddlers. It has its place. It is Disney releasing the information. Moana was the last Disney Princess movie hit. I mentioned this with Toy Story 4 and Moana being the final movie for the ten and under princess demographic. Raya is not going to take the place. Encanto never got a full theatrical release time so people were fine seeing it on streaming, which helped its first year numbers.

Most of Encanto was watching We don't talk About Bruno for hours the way kids play cocomelon and parents let it. One great track a movie does not make.

Cocomeleon trumps all Disney in this regard.

It does not equal relevant in the same sense for a family's enjoyment.

Encanto, is not opening with any attractions at a Disney theme parks this summer. Not sure why you want to bring that up.

Princess and The Frog is what was mentioned specifically with this.

Kung Fu Panda is far more popular as a whole with general audience, and that really bothers some people.

It does not mean that Princess and The Frog is not popular enough for an attraction or that it will not be good.

But the timing of announcement and relevancy is totally with Universal on this one thanks to the relevancy for kids through Netflix, and the obvious hit that is Kung Fu Panda 4 as it keeps raking in millions weekly right now far past any recent Disney release and more popular than the third installment that came before it.(again, thanks Netflix)
 

Sir_Cliff

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Since you don't have kids let me help explain.

Many of the streaming time is of a kid replaying the same songs or background noise for toddlers. It has its place. It is Disney releasing the information. Moana was the last Disney Princess movie hit. I mentioned this with Toy Story 4 and Moana being the final movie for the ten and under princess demographic. Raya is not going to take the place. Encanto never got a full theatrical release time so people were fine seeing it on streaming, which helped its first year numbers.

Most of Encanto was watching We don't talk About Bruno for hours the way kids play cocomelon and parents let it. One great track a movie does not make.

Cocomeleon trumps all Disney in this regard.

It does not equal relevant in the same sense for a family's enjoyment.

Encanto, is not opening with any attractions at a Disney theme parks this summer. Not sure why you want to bring that up.

Princess and The Frog is what was mentioned specifically with this.

Kung Fu Panda is far more popular as a whole with general audience, and that really bothers some people.

It does not mean that Princess and The Frog is not popular enough for an attraction or that it will not be good.

But the timing of announcement and relevancy is totally with Universal on this one thanks to the relevancy for kids through Netflix, and the obvious hit that is Kung Fu Panda 4 as it keeps raking in millions weekly right now far past any recent Disney release and more popular than the third installment that came before it.(again, thanks Netflix)
I don't know quite how you prove the kids watching Encanto are just really re-watching We Don't Talk About Bruno over again whereas those who see Kung Fu Panda 4 truly love it even if it doesn't do so well on streaming.

On the broader point of who is connecting more with children, I guess we will see soon enough whether Universal overtakes WDW.
 

Bayou

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I don't know quite how you prove the kids watching Encanto are just really re-watching We Don't Talk About Bruno over again whereas those who see Kung Fu Panda 4 truly love it even if it doesn't do so well on streaming.

On the broader point of who is connecting more with children, I guess we will see soon enough whether Universal overtakes WDW.
I don't believe Universal will ever overtake WDW as the premier theme park resort of Orlando. At least for a long time. However, it may gain more market share as Epic Universe and other stuff opens. Most families don't take once in a lifetime trips to Universal, their main focus is always Disney and it will be for a long long time
 

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