News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

MerlinTheGoat

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Why do you want more of a problematic character from a very problematic film?
Why do you feel the need to poo poo everyone who doesn't share your opinions and imply there's something morally wrong with them?

I don't like Pocahontas and think it's one of Disney's more problematic movies, but I don't hold it against anyone else for liking it or question their reasons over it. It's not without its good moments. Still has quality animation and great music.
 

FettFan

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Step 1: Reduce Pocahontas' roll in Fantasmic!

Step 2: Get ready for the next step.

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Drdcm

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Without wading into the quagmire of problems… I like the art and animation style of Pocahontas. I also think they do a good job with the music matching the general style and themes of the movie.
 

EagleScout610

What a wisecracker
Premium Member
We have a permit for California to do the retheme:
Description: Dlr - Splash Mountain - Bld 4301 - Non-Residential Addition:492 Sq. Ft. For New Electrical Room. Install Platforms, Steel Framing And Structural Supports For Show Elements. Modify Existing Stairs. Construct 155 Sq. Ft. Trellis And (22) Light Poles.

Valuation: $42,000,000.00
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
We have a permit for California to do the retheme:
Description: Dlr - Splash Mountain - Bld 4301 - Non-Residential Addition:492 Sq. Ft. For New Electrical Room. Install Platforms, Steel Framing And Structural Supports For Show Elements. Modify Existing Stairs. Construct 155 Sq. Ft. Trellis And (22) Light Poles.

Valuation: $42,000,000.00
Until I hold that permit in my hands, I won't believe permission to retheme has been granted.
 

Magenta Panther

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Why do you feel the need to poo poo everyone who doesn't share your opinions and imply there's something morally wrong with them?

I don't like Pocahontas and think it's one of Disney's more problematic movies, but I don't hold it against anyone else for liking it or question their reasons over it. It's not without its good moments. Still has quality animation and great music.

I think that Pocahontas and Princess and the Frog have this much in common: One really good musical number (Colors of the Wind, Almost There) and then the rest is meh as heck. Neither deserve a dark ride IMO. Maybe a bathroom. But nothing more! ;)
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I think that Pocahontas and Princess and the Frog have this much in common: One really good musical number (Colors of the Wind, Almost There) and then the rest is meh as heck. Neither deserve a dark ride IMO. Maybe a bathroom. But nothing more! ;)
PATF is very good. Pocahontas isn't. Both have qualities that could make a really good ride (just not at the expense of Splash Mountain).

A movie doesn't even have to be good to make it a good candidate for a ride. And on the inverse, not every good movie should have a ride. Interesting settings are what is so important.

Ratatouille is a fantastic movie but a pretty crappy ride. A restaurant kitchen and the dirty inside of walls are an innately uninteresting setting to travel through for a ride. Avatar is an aggressively bland and boring movie, but the setting made for a quality theme park experience.
 

EagleScout610

What a wisecracker
Premium Member
PATF is very good. Pocahontas isn't. Both have qualities that could make a really good ride (just not at the expense of Splash Mountain).

A movie doesn't even have to be good to make it a good candidate for a ride. And on the inverse, not every good movie should have a ride. Interesting settings are what is so important.

Ratatouille is a fantastic movie but a pretty crappy ride. A restaurant kitchen and the dirty inside of walls are an innately uninteresting setting to travel through for a ride. Avatar is an aggressively bland and boring movie, but the setting made for a quality theme park experience.
I've said it from the start, and I think many share this feeling, I'm not opposed to a PatF ride and would happily ride it, just not at the cost of Splash Mountain.
 

solidyne

Well-Known Member
Why do you feel the need to poo poo everyone who doesn't share your opinions and imply there's something morally wrong with them?

I don't like Pocahontas and think it's one of Disney's more problematic movies, but I don't hold it against anyone else for liking it or question their reasons over it. It's not without its good moments. Still has quality animation and great music.
Not sure, but the way he repeated "problematic" in his post led me to believe that @MisterPenguin was being facetious. Sorta.
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
Not sure, but the way he repeated "problematic" in his post led me to believe that @MisterPenguin was being facetious. Sorta.
Nothing in that post implied he was joking. A lot of people consider the movie problematic, including MisterPenguin and even myself (though I don't want it banned or anything and don't mind a continued or possibly even expanded presence at the parks). He has a track record of being rude and confrontational towards opposing opinions on matters like these.
 
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MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
We have a permit for California to do the retheme:
Description: Dlr - Splash Mountain - Bld 4301 - Non-Residential Addition:492 Sq. Ft. For New Electrical Room. Install Platforms, Steel Framing And Structural Supports For Show Elements. Modify Existing Stairs. Construct 155 Sq. Ft. Trellis And (22) Light Poles.

Valuation: $42,000,000.00
It should be noted that $40 million is the amount WDW Pro claimed was allotted for the entire project (which to be fair WAS close to the original plan back in 2020, they even attempted to whittle it down further to near $30 mil before the backlash caused them to reassess the entire project). This $42 million figure listed on the permit is JUST for some of the infrastructure related elements. Not including any of the scenery, figures, etc etc. So in case it needs repeating, Pro's claims are no longer accurate to the current version of the attraction and the budget is a lot higher than it used to be.
 

Kirby86

Well-Known Member
It should be noted that $40 million is the amount WDW Pro claimed was allotted for the entire project (which to be fair WAS close to the original plan back in 2020, they even attempted to whittle it down further to near $30 mil before the backlash caused them to reassess the entire project). This $42 million figure listed on the permit is JUST for some of the infrastructure related elements. Not including any of the scenery, figures, etc etc. So in case it needs repeating, Pro's claims are no longer accurate to the current version of the attraction and the budget is a lot higher than it used to be.
It probably was increased but I'm wondering how much of the budget is being taken up by the demolition involved. Those cost add up quickly. Also I'm not saying most of the budget went to demolition but I'm curious.
 

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