News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[Streetway]

The ride was always going to have detractors considering the ride it replaced and the... climate... the replacement was announced in, becoming a proxy in a much broader culture war. Therefore, they really had to knock it out of the park with this one and they failed. Leading those who were always going to hate the ride to take a victory lap, and everyone else being pretty disappointed. JMO.

100% agree. Worst possible situation and time for a swing and a miss

 

[Incomudro]

You’re correct. People are injecting their bias from outside discussions, on different platforms, and using that to inform how they engage with the rest of us here. Seems unfair to this board and community.

Reminder everyone, this isn’t Twitter. We are all real people behind these typed out letters. We were all someone who came to these boards seeking a community of people with a similar interest. We are not your enemy. Engage in good faith and kindness, and when any of us fails that, which I myself have, own up, and try to engage differently next time. We can have differences in opinion on how to run these parks in 2024, but that doesn’t make us enemies. The stakes are not that high.

Most of us who have expressed positivity and optimism about this re-theme on these boards, usually stated we loved Splash, and were sad to see it go, but could understand why a company would decide to do it.

Seems like a pretty reasonable take. Not extreme.

Good post, yet I don't believe it is in bad faith to discuss the failings of this ride while including much of the climate that surrounded it outside of this forum as well.

 

[LittleBuford]

You’re correct. People are injecting their bias from outside discussions, on different platforms, and using that to inform how they engage with the rest of us here. Seems unfair to this board and community.

Reminder everyone, this isn’t Twitter. We are all real people behind these typed out letters. We were all someone who came to these boards seeking a community of people with a similar interest. We are not your enemy. Engage in good faith and kindness, and when any of us fails that, which I myself have, own up, and try to engage differently next time. We can have differences in opinion on how to run these parks in 2024, but that doesn’t make us enemies. The stakes are not that high.

Most of us who have expressed positivity and optimism about this re-theme on these boards, usually stated we loved Splash, and were sad to see it go, but could understand why a company would decide to do it.

Seems like a pretty reasonable take. Not extreme.

Beautifully said. Thank you.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Good post, yet I don't believe it is in bad faith to discuss the failings of this ride while including much of the climate that surrounded it outside of this forum as well.

I don’t know if it’s possible at this point to remove any of what led to this point, but I do think the discourse became increasingly toxic, and extreme, on both sides, which sorta follows the politicized nature of our current climate.

I believe the last thing any of us should want is for that to be how this board acts moving forward in any discussion or change coming to the parks.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I do not try to apply logic for any decision TWDC makes.

Disney will do, what Disney will do, and many times their decision will feel illogical to me.

I never had a strong feeling about this re theme, I always said it will be a fun log flume no matter the theme.

My concern was how long it was going to be closed to get it complete and reopened to guests.

I did not foresee "open but totally unreliable" and often down. I should have known.

My current desire is for this attraction to be open (with standby) and working to be the people eater it could be.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

For me it’s because I really like joking at Disneys expense these days.

At least from my perspective, people just seeming to be here to pick and laugh at everything Disney does is what makes these discussions increasingly tiresome. It gives the impression of a bunch of people mindlessly whooping and hollering in a way that resembles trolling more than discussion.

This thread is one example of endless 'jokes' and little discussion, but the thread about the new central spine at Epcot is another. That has devolved into people posting pictures of planters or flex spaces and writing "absolutely remarkable" to a chorus of laugh emojis.

It also infects discussion of developments at Universal. The same people who relentlessly criticise Disney for IP invasion or leaning toward hotel towers over themed resorts speak in hyperbolic terms about how Epic Universe which is all IP-based lands and has a giant hotel tower as its centrepiece is a game changer that is showing Disney how themed entertainment should be done. It seems more an extension of the laughing and trolling directed at Disney in other threads and a desire to see them get a black eye than a rational discussion of what's actually being built.

I have plenty of issues with how Disney has been running the parks lately. However, a lot of the discussion on here almost tips me back toward being sympathetic to them having to deal with such a large contingent of trolls who will laugh and mock if a new bench in one of the parks doesn't reinvent themed entertainment.

 

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[LittleBuford]

I wish they would just close it and fix whatever needs to be fixed.

 

[Streetway]

I wish they would just close it and fix whatever needs to be fixed.

Maybe In Disney’s eyes they would see it as “admitting defeat”?

 

[LittleBuford]

Maybe In Disney’s eyes they would see it as “admitting defeat”?

There’s nothing defeatist about acknowledging and addressing an issue that cannot be ignored. Quite the opposite. I should think everyone would applaud them for it.

 

[Disney Analyst]

The best thing they could do is remove the sensor insides probably. Have the first Tiana set the stage, then have the rest of the scenes on a continuous loop, give them each a good chunk of dialogue / scene to play with, and have the riders pass by getting a hint of what’s going on.


unsure if it’s really the scenic sensors causing the issue whoever?

 

[Streetway]

The best thing they could do is remove the sensors insides probably. Have the first Tiana set the stage, then have the rest of the scenes on a continuous loop, give them each a good chunk of dialogue / scene to play with, and have the riders pass by getting a hint of what’s going on.


unsure if it’s really the scenic sensors causing the issue whoever?

Also maybe add some more animatronics in the extra scenes at one point down the line

 

[LittleBuford]

unsure if it’s really the scenic sensors causing the issue whoever?

I’m not so sure given that even the musical critters, whose movement isn’t triggered by sensors, have been acting up.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I really think there are easyish fixes to be had here. The setting and music are already pretty great.

Just make it a fun musical adventure, let riders pass by the scenes getting a sense of the story at play, without anything needing to be triggered.

 

[Figments Friend]

I think maybe you missed the subtext of my original post.

When the project was announced, I and others viewed Baxter’s supposed buy in as window dressing and cover to push back against the expected antagonism towards the change.

As time went on, and people kept implying the ride had Tony’s seal of approval, I kept expressing my skepticism. It’s telling that he’s nowhere to be found when it had its grand opening. And I agree that he chose to distance himself as much as he could publicly.

As you are correctly aware, the attachment of Tony’s name to this project was just that - an attempt by Disney Marketing to try to soften the blow of the removal of ‘Splash Mountain’.

While he was involved for a brief stint in a advisory role, he departed from the project early on.

He does not endorse the final result that ended up in the Park.
That I am fairly certain, but let us hear from Tony himself when the time comes for him to do so publically.

It’s coming….just be patient.


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[TP2000]

I hadn't been following this thread until yesterday when I was asked to comment on wardrobe and hair, but I'm surprised at how troublesome this ride is operationally. So I just went and checked, and at 4:05pm Eastern time Tiana's Bayou Adventure is closed for technical difficulties and with no Lightning Lanes available for the rest of the day. If it's closed on just one random check from me, it seems likely it's closed a great deal every day.

The other thing I was struck with is the limited operating hours for Magic Kingdom. Disneyland is open 8am to Midnight, seven days a week all summer long and for months at a time. But Magic Kingdom is only open 9am to 10pm? Why???

Heck, even lowly DCA is open longer than Magic Kingdom in mid-summer; 8am to 10pm seven days per week.

 

[erasure fan1]

The ride was always going to have detractors considering the ride it replaced and the... climate... the replacement was announced in, becoming a proxy in a much broader culture war. Therefore, they really had to knock it out of the park with this one and they failed. Leading those who were always going to hate the ride to take a victory lap, and everyone else being pretty disappointed. JMO.

That's what it all really boils down to. Splash mountain was my all time favorite ride ever. And I know it was also an all time favorite for a huge amount of fans as well. Nothing less than stellar was going to pass with a huge part of the fan base. You can't replace all time great with, yea, it's fine.

None of the noise that's been happening since the opening sticks around if the ride is as good and impactful as Splash was. But it wasn't. The ride is fine, but fine isn't what most people hoped or wanted.

 

[Figments Friend]

Disneyland is open 8am to Midnight, seven days a week all summer long and for months at a time. But Magic Kingdom is only open 9am to 10pm? Why???

Heck, even lowly DCA is open longer than Magic Kingdom in mid-summer; 8am to 10pm seven days per week.

TP darling, you should already know the answer.

It is because Disneyland is superior.



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[Inspired Figment]

TP darling, you should already know the answer.

It is because Disneyland is superior.



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Truth be told though, he has a good question regarding the operating hours. That always confused me. Is it something to do with staffing?? Odd. If anyone knows, please chime in

 

[Figments Friend]

Are you implying he’s going to crap on it in the near future?

Tony is a fine gentlemen.
He would not stoop to such rude lows.

But he is a master at giving his opinion on matters, and he will certainly have some deliciously targeted commentary on this mess known as ‘Tiana’s Missed Bayou Opportunity’.

Sooner or later, it will be stated and make the rounds….
Just have to be patient.



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