MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[Tha Realest]

I suppose what I'm getting at is that some of the "told you so" posts here are retconning things to make it seem as if everything that's gone wrong with the ride was utterly predictable, and I just don't think that's particularly accurate or helpful.

It was predictable though, as evidenced by the many who predicted it.

But, set that aside. You say everyone’s in agreement now. Fine. What’s the solution? TBA seems doomed unless it gets a massive reworking, which seems unlikely.

Shouldn’t a constructive solution going forward be to be far more discerning in terms of what’s a necessary or worthwhile investment in the parks going forward?

 

[LittleBuford]

But, set that aside. You say everyone’s in agreement now. Fine. What’s the solution?

I would shut the ride down and do whatever needs to be done to fix the technical issues before reopening it, even if that takes months. Running it the way they are seems untenable to me.

Shouldn’t a constructive solution going forward be to be far more discerning in terms of what’s a necessary or worthwhile investment in the parks going forward?

I don't agree with this. Disney shouldn't be hobbled by fear that their future projects aren't going to work properly, and nor should we want them to be. The problem is with their implementation of the project, but with the project per se.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

While I can't speak from insider knowledge, I would guess a fair bit of ego, hubris and "megacorp" separation is also lurking within the causes of this troublesome mechanical (and artistic/storytelling) situation.

 

[Jedi14]

It was predictable though, as evidenced by the many who predicted it.

I think it’s more that some are using this as an excuse or some form of justification to say that they always knew it would end up like this because they didn’t like the idea of the retheme to begin with. I like the ride and hope they deal with and fix the problems, but using this as an “I told you so” does not feel genuine.

 

[EagleScout610]

The problem is large numbers of 1-2 movement figures breaking down at once isn't a good look, brand new attraction or not. In the case of Bayou it turns into "Enjoy these frozen foxes and bears because they're all you've got until you see Tiana 3 scenes later" because there's nothing else to draw your eye from the mannequins except for the screens.

 

[Mike S]

Winner winner

Now I have to think of a prize for him. Great lol.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

@MerlinTheGoat needs to change his name to NostradamusTheGoat

Too much of what I was told about this attraction's development was incorrect for me to run a victory lap and claim to have been right about much. Sadly these sorts of failures were entirely expected. Though I'm somewhat surprised it was THIS quick. While I did make that comment and did expect the normal "giving up" to occur not long after the ride opened, even I thought that short timeline was a bit too pessimistic. In truth, I had believed that they might at least take better care of the ride for the first year or two while it was under the public's scrutiny. But it goes to show how beyond the pale the TWDC and Orlando management really is.

Though with everything that is going wrong, I don't think the poor maintenance crews are 100% to blame for a change. For so many things to be failing so catastrophically so soon after opening (including extremely basic stuff that has no excuse to be messing up), I think there's a lot of blame that can be levied towards the people who built the attraction in the first place (whether WDI employees or their contractors).

The insane thing is that it's not just the small handful of A1000's that are breaking down. Most of the simple critter figures with only 2-3 basic repeating motions are experiencing repeated failures too. These are as basic as they come, less complex than even the dolls from Small World (most of those at least can blink and move their mouths in sync with lyrics). And those absolutely ancient Small World dolls seem to have far greater reliability than these TBA figures too...

I think it’s more that some are using this as an excuse or some form of justification to say that they always knew it would end up like this because they didn’t like the idea of the retheme to begin with. I like the ride and hope they deal with and fix the problems, but using this as an “I told you so” does not feel genuine.

The ride is still a massive disappointment even when everything is functioning correctly. A large number of people here were tearing it apart when it first opened and was 100% fresh. Sorry...

All of these failures are just more fuel for the fire.

 

[LittleBuford]

As the steel gate closes behind me, I breath the fresh air of freedom from wdwmagic forums jail.
I vow never to mention the name of the previous attraction that is now home to our wonderful, beautiful, glorious Tiana.

Please get well soon Tiana, as we want to experience this wonderful, beautiful, glorious attraction.

My dream someday is that the standby to this wonderful, beautiful, glorious attraction is open so all who wish to wait can enjoy this wonderful, beautiful, glorious attraction.
View attachment 806654

Joking aside, it's worth noting (because some posters continue to imply otherwise) that there is no requirement in this forum to like the new attraction, much less praise it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Joking aside, it's worth noting (because some posters continue to imply otherwise) that there is no requirement in this forum to like the new attraction, much less praise it.

As always @LittleBuford , thanks for the constant and continuing corrections.

As for our wonderful, glorious, beautiful Tiana that has replaced the attraction that will not be mentioned, our wonderful, glorious, beautiful Tiana will be there for the unforeseen future, probably decades.

Disney needs to fix it.

If they need to close it and put walls back up to do it, they should.

My hope is they can learn from whatever is happening in WDW so that DLR's Tiana can be built correctly and will will work reliably. I am sad that WDW became the Beta (maybe Alpha) site for Tiana.

I will remind folks how very bad the very first launch of TestTrack was! It was mostly down.

 

[Streetway]

They’re probably going to bury it under beyond big thunder once it opens and do nothing.

As always @LittleBuford , thanks for the constant and continuing corrections.

As for our wonderful, glorious, beautiful Tiana that has replaced the attraction that will not be mentioned, our wonderful, glorious, beautiful Tiana will be there for the unforeseen future, probably decades.

Disney needs to fix it.

If they need to close it and put walls back up to do it, they should.

My hope is they can learn from whatever is happening in WDW so that DLR's Tiana can be built correctly and will will work reliably. I am sad that WDW became the Beta (maybe Alpha) site for Tiana.

I will remind folks how very bad the very first launch of TestTrack was! It was mostly down.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Am I the only person who doesn't remember many people supporting replacing Splash due to its poor maintenance? I remember a lot of people commenting on the poor condition even before Tiana was announced, others accepting the reasons behind the replacement, and yet others just willing to give the project the benefit of the doubt. The bad upkeep of the ride would seem a weird reason to promote this change, though, as there was every indication the same problem would just recur.

I'm kind of surprised about this gloating because I think everyone recognises this ride has had a terrible roll-out and, if anyone was arguing Splash mountain should be replaced because of poor maintenance, they were very few.

 

[Disstevefan1]

They have lost Drew..... Its over.

 

[LittleBuford]

Disney needs to fix it.

No-one has said or implied otherwise. Again, it's one of the rare points on which everyone here can agree.

 

[LittleBuford]

Am I the only person who doesn't remember many people supporting replacing Splash due to its poor maintenance? I remember a lot of people commenting on the poor condition even before Tiana was announced, others accepting the reasons behind the replacement, and yet others just willing to give the project the benefit of the doubt. The bad upkeep of the ride would seem a weird reason to promote this change, though, as there was every indication the same problem would just recur.

I'm kind of surprised about this gloating because I think everyone recognises this ride has had a terrible roll-out and, if anyone was arguing Splash mountain should be replaced because of poor maintenance, they were very few.

I do recall several people bringing it up as a factor in favour of the retheme, though not necessarily as a reason in itself.

But yes, I agree with you that the gloating seems strangely misplaced.

 

[Streetway]

I do recall several people bringing it up as a factor in favour of the retheme, though not necessarily as a reason in itself.

But yes, I agree with you that the gloating seems strangely misplaced.

I’m just disappointed. I really wanted this to be good, and for it to come together like mission breakout did. Wasted, wasted potential.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Am I the only person who doesn't remember many people supporting replacing Splash due to its poor maintenance? I remember a lot of people commenting on the poor condition even before Tiana was announced, others accepting the reasons behind the replacement, and yet others just willing to give the project the benefit of the doubt. The bad upkeep of the ride would seem a weird reason to promote this change, though, as there was every indication the same problem would just recur.

I'm kind of surprised about this gloating because I think everyone recognises this ride has had a terrible roll-out and, if anyone was arguing Splash mountain should be replaced because of poor maintenance, they were very few.

We don't know the true motives of Disney, personally I thought the retheme was indeed really done to change out old hardware/technology, to save costs in the long run because the old hardware/tech was getting too expensive in time and money to maintain; no spare parts, replacement parts need to be custom made, etc.

In my opinion what we may be seeing now is that the new system in there now cant work in the "literal swamp like" conditions they were installed in, where the hydraulic or pneumatics or whatever, in the previous system could operate in harsh environments.

Just my guess.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I’m just disappointed. I really wanted this to be good, and for it to come together like mission breakout did. Wasted, wasted potential.

Yes, I was hoping it would turn out well even if the early signs were a bit worrying.

Beyond the maintenance issues, the more I think about the storyline of the new ride, the more I am struck but how paper thin and kind of strange that it is for such a long ride. That is only reinforced by so much of the staging being small groups of animals playing instruments while Tiana and Luis look on and say things like "they sure can play!" Considering the time and money that goes into these things, I'm surprised no-one pushed them to be more ambitious with it.

 

[UNCgolf]

Fair enough. I guess some were predicting such failures this early on. I still find it surprising that so much of the ride is so consistently down so early in its life. I don't think we've seen anything quite this bad before, but perhaps I'm mistaken.

I think Rise was similarly bad, but that was also a brand new attraction that was significantly more complicated than Tiana.

 

[Disstevefan1]

My desire is for them to get this attraction working consistently with no breakdowns so they can open the standby so this attraction can be the people eater it can be.

 

[Incomudro]

Yes, I was hoping it would turn out well even if the early signs were a bit worrying.

Beyond the maintenance issues, the more I think about the storyline of the new ride, the more I am struck but how paper thin and kind of strange that it is for such a long ride. That is only reinforced by so much of the staging being small groups of animals playing instruments while Tiana and Luis look on and say things like "they sure can play!" Considering the time and money that goes into these things, I'm surprised no-one pushed them to be more ambitious with it.

Yes.
I find the ride to be worse as time goes by.
Initially I thought the pretty and new buoyed Tiana's up quite a bit.
But the Chuck e Cheese band that simply rocks back and forth is very weak.
As is the use of Tiana or Louis to simply spout support dialog.
Again, it's just weak.
Attractive and impressive end scene for the party.