News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Ice Gator

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So I'm a bit out of the loop- what's the deal with the food options? I know Golden Oak has gumbo, hot honey chicken, and beignets until September, but I'm surprised they haven't announced a permanent venue that sells New Orleans style food by now. I'm aware of the Pecos Bill replacement rumor, but haven't seen anything official alluding to that yet.

I'm only concerned because it would be ridiculous for them not to have a restaurant nearby that sells gumbo, beignets, and other soul foods year-round. They spend like 75% of the ride hyping up the food. If MK never gets a Tiana's Palace, or something similar, I'd be pretty upset. I love Port Orleans resort's offerings, but I wouldn't want to go out of my way to leave the park for dinner there after riding TBA.
 

TomboyJanet

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Those screens always have looked weird on video, like they are supposed to have a 3-D effect. Screens usually look much worse on video than in person. I've been surprised at how good the bayou screens look in the videos I've seen and haven't heard anyone who's seen them in person complain.



From the Tim Tracker video. I've seen it clearer in others, but the notes are more than clear enough to make out.

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. One thing I must say for the ride, Is that the animatronics at the begining look more Baxtery with the large eyes and goofy expressions and all, and I do like them. I just wish there were more of them. I mean It's not interesting to me to look at an oversized bottle and a key that look like they belong in a disney store play area, or part of heimleck's chew chew train in DCA. Overall this is very DCA level and not the RSR DCA but the 00s DCA. Like how some of the rides have Joe Rhode level theming and then taper off. Like I said before this ride is C or D ticket quality but needed to be an E. It's not the worst thing I ever saw, but It's not splash mountain and that's the issue. It needed to be on par or greater and it wasn't. Maybe they will learn from their mistakes in Anaheim.


Maybe they will just be stubborn.

I see another main issue with this ride being it's core audience crying because they aren't tall enough to ride.

Lots of sad little princesses will be created from here on in.... :(

Either way it's going to be trippy bringing my Plushie Brer Rabbit on it and having that be the only Brer Rabbit in splash mountain.
 
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doctornick

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Well, the good news is that it would be reasonably easy to add some plot. With even CNN having a story about the lack of plot, it seems Disney will need to make adjustments on this.

That's the thing, changing the dialogue and adding a few more AAs in empty spaces (even more limited motion ones) would potentially make it a lot better for a fairly modest cost. A lot of the decisions they made were kinda baffling really.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Fact sheets are bog standard (pun intended) media support and have been for decades.
Where it's a page long explanation of the story though? Key facts, key phrases, the take-aways marketing wants media to regurgitate... yes, typical PR type stuff. But the synopsis isn't even making a point of highlights or key takeaways to prime the media blitz with. It's basically providing all the filler and explaining all the story.. which no one is going to bother wasting so many lines on except a two or three line synopsis of going through the bayou to locate members for the band and mentioning the shrinking and finale.

I mean, contrast that with the PR piece for Cosmic Rewind - https://wdwnews.com/releases/its-sa...nd-debuts-may-27-at-walt-disney-world-resort/

Contrast those two in terms of what they spend the energy focusing attention on...

When you look at this.. and then look at how much they put into the queue... and then belabored the media side with this 'tiana foods' backstory.. the whole thing feels completely like investing in the wrong things.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
That's the thing, changing the dialogue and adding a few more AAs in empty spaces (even more limited motion ones) would potentially make it a lot better for a fairly modest cost. A lot of the decisions they made were kinda baffling really.
Agreed. It doesn't really need expensive AAs. Just the cheaper fillers. And you could pretty easily transition that final portion of the old Laughing Place (with the weird Tiana/Louis screen until the Odie screen) into a brief "Friends from the Other Side" segment that the impressive Odie AA could get guests away from. It doesn't need to be a prolonged, scary scene and the "friends" can largely be done with projection mapping. Easy-peasy.
 

TomboyJanet

Well-Known Member
Where it's a page long explanation of the story though? Key facts, key phrases, the take-aways marketing wants media to regurgitate... yes, typical PR type stuff. But the synopsis isn't even making a point of highlights or key takeaways to prime the media blitz with. It's basically providing all the filler and explaining all the story.. which no one is going to bother wasting so many lines on except a two or three line synopsis of going through the bayou to locate members for the band and mentioning the shrinking and finale.

I mean, contrast that with the PR piece for Cosmic Rewind - https://wdwnews.com/releases/its-sa...nd-debuts-may-27-at-walt-disney-world-resort/

Contrast those two in terms of what they spend the energy focusing attention on...

When you look at this.. and then look at how much they put into the queue... and then belabored the media side with this 'tiana foods' backstory.. the whole thing feels completely like investing in the wrong things.
I missed the whole effect of the story unfolding as you go deeper into the ride, like in Splash. You would just see some birds singing (or trying to play instruments) in the bird houses then overhear the frog telling the setup, and then you'd see the character portraits telling you who you will meet, and where you will go, and then the frog tells the setup to you and slowly you follow Brer rabbit etc SINGING the events of the story as they unfold before you. Then tension builds slowly first mockingly, then partying too hard, and not paying attention to the danger. Finally we have the really scary Vultures, the famed boot hill boys, taunting you as you are held for the ascend into darkness. Finally the big twist, Is our hero ok? The happy music says we made it and there you go, Brer Rabbit tricked them into throwing him home again! And they face the consequences from a mad Brer Gator (who I guess is the one from the beginning with the frog) as everyone celebrates! Now that is a plot! This plot has like 3 things in it and boom you're done. Nothing really happened.

In my opinion the shrinking breaks up the continuity of the flow of the river (to be fair burrows lament kinda did too but It was taken out in the later versions. I assume that was just a flash vision and not in the laughing place) But this is a bit jarring.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
This plot has like 3 things in it and boom you're done. Nothing really happened.
I boil it down even further...

"we're throwing a party" - This in itself is uninspiring and flat. Party for what? For who? The fact sheet makes it out that they are celebrating Mardis Gras - but does that come across in the attraction at all? They have a few props in the queue (like the newspaper on the table)... and the horrible sign above the lift hill.. then its right into 'lets find some musicians for our party'. Mardis Gras isn't really conveyed in the conventional sense at all before this that I can tell.. This whole thing is like we get is like a 3yr old version of a story book "Tiana is throwing a party!" -- It does nothing to get you emotionally attached.

"we need to find some band members" -- A conflict .. but setup where? What tension? Where did this come from? Then they solve the problem in the very first indoor scene... hey, here's a band... yet, it's not really solved.. so we need what.. to find more band!! It's insultingly dumbed down.

The whole thing plays out like a story book you read a 1yr old.

And while attraction plots do need to be simple because of the speed and audience... that doesn't mean they should be aimed only at toddlers... and the whole point of using established familiar IP is you can leap frog off existing notions and characters. They do none of that to play into why any of these characters matter except for Mama.

I mean.. if you aren't the type that goes 'oh wow, look its tiana!' or 'look it's louis!' -- does anything in the story or setting resonate at all? What will be the memorable moment people take away from this ride?

Cool lights in the drops? They like the background music?

Literally every short Disney ever made had more character and story than this thing... and this thing has a decade of history behind it, and a 15+min experience to deliver it.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
I boil it down even further...

"we're throwing a party" - This in itself is uninspiring and flat. Party for what? For who? The fact sheet makes it out that they are celebrating Mardis Gras - but does that come across in the attraction at all? They have a few props in the queue (like the newspaper on the table)... and the horrible sign above the lift hill.. then its right into 'lets find some musicians for our party'. Mardis Gras isn't really conveyed in the conventional sense at all before this that I can tell.. This whole thing is like we get is like a 3yr old version of a story book "Tiana is throwing a party!" -- It does nothing to get you emotionally attached.

"we need to find some band members" -- A conflict .. but setup where? What tension? Where did this come from? Then they solve the problem in the very first indoor scene... hey, here's a band... yet, it's not really solved.. so we need what.. to find more band!! It's insultingly dumbed down.

The whole thing plays out like a story book you read a 1yr old.

And while attraction plots do need to be simple because of the speed and audience... that doesn't mean they should be aimed only at toddlers... and the whole point of using established familiar IP is you can leap frog off existing notions and characters. They do none of that to play into why any of these characters matter except for Mama.

I mean.. if you aren't the type that goes 'oh wow, look its tiana!' or 'look it's louis!' -- does anything in the story or setting resonate at all? What will be the memorable moment people take away from this ride?

Cool lights in the drops? They like the background music?

Literally every short Disney ever made had more character and story than this thing... and this thing has a decade of history behind it, and a 15+min experience to deliver it.
It's an infantile story concept that's shoehorned into the existing ride system, which it's clearly not designed to take advantage of it, so it just muddles through it.

Developing a Tianna story with its own attraction built from the ground up would have done the character so much more justice, rather than doing what they did.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
The screens on Guardians Tower also have that depth effect but they occasionally blur and lag. Its not as bad as say the Six Flags Metropolis Ride screens, but It still looks wonky to me. I do remember being impressed by the depth effect though. It is a new feature when compared to say, Rio Del Tiempo, or If you had wings, but those were made before I was born so I'm not surprised. One thing I must say for the ride, Is that the animatronics at the begining look more Baxtery with the large eyes and goofy expressions and all, and I do like them. I just wish there were more of them. I mean It's not interesting to me to look at an oversized bottle and a key that look like they belong in a disney store play area, or part of heimleck's chew chew train in DCA. Overall this is very DCA level and not the RSR DCA but the 00s DCA. Like how some of the rides have Joe Rhode level theming and then taper off. Like I said before this ride is C or D ticket quality but needed to be an E. It's not the worst thing I ever saw, but It's not splash mountain and that's the issue. It needed to be on par or greater and it wasn't. Maybe they will learn from their mistakes in Anaheim.


Maybe they will just be stubborn.

I see another main issue with this ride being it's core audience crying because they aren't tall enough to ride.

Lots of sad little princesses will be created from here on in.... :(

Either way it's going to be trippy bringing my Plushie Brer Rabbit on it and having that be the only Brer Rabbit in splash mountain.
If it's any consolation to those sad little Princesses, the movie they know and love isn't in the ride anyway.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
I boil it down even further...

"we're throwing a party" - This in itself is uninspiring and flat. Party for what? For who? The fact sheet makes it out that they are celebrating Mardis Gras - but does that come across in the attraction at all? They have a few props in the queue (like the newspaper on the table)... and the horrible sign above the lift hill.. then its right into 'lets find some musicians for our party'. Mardis Gras isn't really conveyed in the conventional sense at all before this that I can tell.. This whole thing is like we get is like a 3yr old version of a story book "Tiana is throwing a party!" -- It does nothing to get you emotionally attached.

"we need to find some band members" -- A conflict .. but setup where? What tension? Where did this come from? Then they solve the problem in the very first indoor scene... hey, here's a band... yet, it's not really solved.. so we need what.. to find more band!! It's insultingly dumbed down.

The whole thing plays out like a story book you read a 1yr old.

And while attraction plots do need to be simple because of the speed and audience... that doesn't mean they should be aimed only at toddlers... and the whole point of using established familiar IP is you can leap frog off existing notions and characters. They do none of that to play into why any of these characters matter except for Mama.

I mean.. if you aren't the type that goes 'oh wow, look its tiana!' or 'look it's louis!' -- does anything in the story or setting resonate at all? What will be the memorable moment people take away from this ride?

Cool lights in the drops? They like the background music?

Literally every short Disney ever made had more character and story than this thing... and this thing has a decade of history behind it, and a 15+min experience to deliver it.
"Here's a band!"
Yes, that part really bothers me.
We're supposed to go into the bayou to find critters to form a band- which in itself makes NO sense especially in New Orleans.
But allowing for that 'cause Disney I guess... Why do we happen upon them fully assembled as a band?
It would play out better if we found a critter here, a couple there etc., saw that they played - and somehow got them together to play.
 

tongaloosh

Active Member
So "turbocharge" is just the new hidden Mickey, right?

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