Yes I caved and watched the DPB video because it was too hard to discuss without watching it once.
Why did they release such an awful, dark video? That was supposed to help control the narrative? And that’s the best their team can make?
There are entire visual effects that you can’t even make out in that video. Bloggers make better videos.
Oof. Rough place to start. But it sounds like you caught another to be able to compare. Or got a ride.
I just want to say thank you for this I noticed a few things that I was not able to see from the other videos posted! Mainly that Louis is in the first scene with the okra
I've heard multiple people not realize that was Louis. I originally saw this figure on the aerial shot and knew it was coming. I wonder if I only was so immediately sure because of this.
Fantasy Springs is millions of times better than this. It doesn’t look “exactly” like this. Sure this builds up an atmosphere like Fantasy Springs (an aspect of Tiana’s I enjoy) but for the actual attractions they are nothing alike.
Frozen - Is way more advanced then this will ever be and has conflict (Elsa running away, Anna freezing etc). Far better show scenes then Tiana’s as well.
Tangled - Is like you said conflict-free which isn’t a bad thing because the story of Rapunzel going to the lantern festival is portrayed nicely. Tiana’s is also not as advanced as tangled. Tangled is also not meant to be a E-ticket.
Peter Pan - You are correct, it’s a screen based ride. That being said, it works incredibly well and is probably one of the best uses of a screen attraction I’ve seen. Probably my favorite ride in fantasy springs ironically.The attraction also has conflict (John is captured by Captain Hook and we and the darlings are there to rescue him with Pan’s help).
Fantasy Springs is also a land with 3 attractions, a hotel, and lots of eateries that are very well done/themed and from what I’ve seen well received. Apples and oranges comparison between a single land and one attraction.
I’d be fine with a total clone of some of the rides (besides frozen we already kinda have it).
Like I said, I really enjoy the Peter Pan ride and Tangled would make a fine D-ticket.
Obviously, there's a big difference in the scale and a whole lot of difference in budget. A land with four D-through-B-ticket attractions and one E-ticket are apples and oranges. But the ingredients are so similar. Everything failing and gripe except for the comparison to an original is there. But because they're not to the same scale, they're not as big a problem. I defended Rapunzel having no conflict or Gothel because it doesn't seem the goal of the ride. It's trying to be a little romantic tour of their relationship.
But just as the Mansion, Pirates, and the Jungle Cruise are three completely different rides which share so many similarities (not the least of which is Marc Davis's gags), I look at Fantasy Springs and see just about everything someone has complained about here and there. That makes it funny to see some people demonizing one and praising the other or even suggest soliciting the services of the other company when they're both WDI.
One thing that seems painfully obvious is that the original rock work in the queue "tunnel" really has no place in a New Orleans themed ride. You dig 1 foot in NOLA and you're hitting water. Just doesn't match the attraction. Again, why retrofits never seem to work out very well.
We can't still be doing this.
Rip out those bathrooms and let’s get cracking in MK. Assuming there is some space.
If not then sure, WS may work. I’d prefer it in Magic Kingdom though.
There's stuch a tiny space you've got to thread between the Mansion and Small World show buildings. It's similar to the journey to Indy in Disneyland or (hopefully) Moana in the future. And I don't know if they want to cut off the vehicle access there.
At WDW, they had the perfect venue in Port Orleans French Quarter to build on that concept.
Doesn't French Quarter still have their table service restaurant shuttered? Did they ever do anything with that space? Seems like an easy choice.
Beauty and the Beast is flawed, and absolutely showcases some of the issues with the way Disney designs trackless rides.
I just think it looks more interesting than Tiana -- if I had them side by side and could only pick one to ride, I'd pick Beauty and the Beast.
The storytelling works and the final effect is great, but the rooms are so wide and the ceilings so low. The squatness of these spaces brings so much attention to the unthemed ceiling. But it looks like we're speaking of comparing the two on different qualities.
Also, I went back to the reveal of the DL animatronics and saw this: wondering where they’ll put this and if anything else will be altered from the WDW version. This presentation looks more visually interesting to me than Tiana on the stump.
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Not to mention it explains why Tiana's just sitting down in the middle of her crazy romp. She's waiting for Louis to get out. I wonder... is it possible the separation was due to a worry of having nothing at the end of the frog song straightaway?
