davis_unoxx
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I agree with you completely, before I even knew where the song came from I remember singing it in my elementary school choir! It’s special
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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Midwest Elitist
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"LUL ECKS DEE, I'M NOT SERIOUS". Aight folks, I'm done responding to bait. You're welcome for exposing them.
Prince-1
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Inspired Figment
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Wow.. I didn’t realize I literally made this comment on the 22nd Anniversary of ‘Journey Into Imagination: With Figment’’s opening… oiii.. quite the “sense-sational” day.. isn’t it?? Ugghh… talk about a massive dissapointment. All the marketing and hype like they were gonna restore it back to it’s former glory only to get.. the same bad redo with empty show scenes full of scenes draped in black curtain, closed doors & test charts but Figment shoehorned in the way he is to mock the fan complaints with a rogue phone call,, a random bad CG animated sing along on an eye chart, skunk farts and a toilet stuck to the ceiling in the “Friends of Figment” upside down room. Just.. what on earth?? Beyond tone-deaf, insulting, & stupid. Especially when you consider Disney was founded upon the very quality of imagination and there they just mock it. “It’s just turning your thinking upside down”.
Sad that we’re pretty much back to that with the Splash redo, just with high tech animatronics shoehorned in. I ‘really’ hope they take the right lesson from the Journey Into Imagination debacle and don’t repeat the same thing whenever they plan to fix Tiana’s Bayou Adventure/Splash Mountain … can’t say my hopes are that high though. (Let alone in restoring Journey Into Imagination back to its former glory with tech & spfx enhancements it should’ve received back in ‘98 instead of the lousy Honey I Shrunk IP retheme we got.. which is LONG overdue). But who knows.. maybe.. just maybe, they might be smart enough to do ‘that’ atleast after this debacle. Not putting much hope in current management though, that’s for sure. Will probably take a change of management to do anything, I gather.
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SuddenStorm
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Ghost93
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Frederick Chambers started the idea, but his was based more on the actual Princess and the Frog movie and was much more interesting than what Tiana's Bayou Adventure turned out to be. His concept actually had me hyped for the potential retheme.
davis_unoxx
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I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the temporary attraction, The Legend of Captain Jack Sparrow is better than Tiana straight up.
At least with that attraction you had the charm and wit of Johnny Depp, people laughing and smiling. No one’s doing that on this Hobby Lobby of a ride.
At least with that attraction you had the charm and wit of Johnny Depp, people laughing and smiling. No one’s doing that on this Hobby Lobby of a ride.
yensidtlaw1969
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The "entirety of the internet" isn't talking about this.
It's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction. Even if it seems like a lot.
Let's all make the effort to have some perspective about this.
SilentWindODoom
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Whelp... this thread went off the chain with more than I could catch up to anytime soon, so I just got all my thoughts out in the spoiler thread.
MrPromey
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To me, this video helps highlight everything bad about attraction re-themes where they try to shoehorn in something that the attraction space was not designed around.
In this case, if you're familiar with the original, you get to ride along and point out all the areas shown that make no sense, seem dead or had a purpose in the structure of the original ride and its story but don't now.
I'd even say "maybe it'll be better in person" but this is Disney's own video for it so if this is the impression we're left with from their own marketing effort, what does that say about it?
Also, what's the deal with the wall/fence that has stuff painted on it leading into the mill (first lift hill) near the beginning? What are they covering there with what looks like Six-Flags level effort and why are they focusing the camera right on it in that video?
As for the dead spaces, there are clear cuts in the video, why did they leave these nothing-to-see-here patches in?
I guess if you don't remember the original, this wouldn't look as bad but a lot of people are going to remember the original and it looks like they've replaced a lot of eye candy from the former with shadows to hide the spaces they didn't work on filling in with new stuff.
This is just weird. They knew there was guest controversy over this change. Clearly they thought releasing this video was going to accomplish something. I just can't figure out what.
In this case, if you're familiar with the original, you get to ride along and point out all the areas shown that make no sense, seem dead or had a purpose in the structure of the original ride and its story but don't now.
I'd even say "maybe it'll be better in person" but this is Disney's own video for it so if this is the impression we're left with from their own marketing effort, what does that say about it?
Also, what's the deal with the wall/fence that has stuff painted on it leading into the mill (first lift hill) near the beginning? What are they covering there with what looks like Six-Flags level effort and why are they focusing the camera right on it in that video?
As for the dead spaces, there are clear cuts in the video, why did they leave these nothing-to-see-here patches in?
I guess if you don't remember the original, this wouldn't look as bad but a lot of people are going to remember the original and it looks like they've replaced a lot of eye candy from the former with shadows to hide the spaces they didn't work on filling in with new stuff.
This is just weird. They knew there was guest controversy over this change. Clearly they thought releasing this video was going to accomplish something. I just can't figure out what.
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davis_unoxx
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Ice Gator
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Figments Friend
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Okay, that guy wearing the Virtual Reality unit is MOST CERTAINLY watching a video of ‘Splash Mountain’ while riding ….
The guy in the back row?
His expression sums up this mess.
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SuddenStorm
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It's baffling- especially with how tight lipped they were about the interior of this attraction.
We just got years worth of blog posts about stuff that only exists in the queue- the salt mine, the military reference, the co op, etc.
The inside was kept mostly secret except for the marketing about the critter performers. We got a video showcasing the music, then the finale track releases online
And then- a professionally recorded video releases before the official previews, with no fanfare, not even a parks blog post. I mean at minimum I would have expected a post "Spot these five easter eggs!" or something from their PR team.
Instead, silence. I can't wait to see Disney respond, if they do at all.
LittleBuford
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The existence of the monarchy is certainly a political matter, but the queen herself was famously apolitical. The British monarch is a symbolic ruler only and is expected to remain aloof of and publicly silent on matters of government policy.
Centauri Space Station
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Here’s another video
Disney Glimpses
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The won't. Disney are experts at not admitting their mistakes. This is the attraction we will have for the next 20 years.
So I’m still working on this general public idea.
What about this ride is appealing to the general public that the hard core fans are missing?
Why not build everything to the quality level of Nemo, if the only thing about a ride that matters is that it’s located in a Disney park.
The ride has no story.
The ride has no buildup to the drop.
Most people won’t even understand they have been shrunk and just confused as to what the heck is going on.
The music is not memorable like its predecessor.
Yea they will all scream on the drop and laugh when they get wet. But if that all that’s needed to make this ride a success why not just rip out all the theming to save on the maintenance costs.
What about this ride is appealing to the general public that the hard core fans are missing?
Why not build everything to the quality level of Nemo, if the only thing about a ride that matters is that it’s located in a Disney park.
The ride has no story.
The ride has no buildup to the drop.
Most people won’t even understand they have been shrunk and just confused as to what the heck is going on.
The music is not memorable like its predecessor.
Yea they will all scream on the drop and laugh when they get wet. But if that all that’s needed to make this ride a success why not just rip out all the theming to save on the maintenance costs.
Virtual Toad
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Serious question for those who are bothered by the criticism. If the posts referencing politics were disregarded (as they should be), and you were left reading the posts of those who are critical of the redo, what reason do you have to be troubled by it?
Disney invited the expression of opinion by releasing the video. They had to expect a response. And that response is mixed at best.
The end result is negative comments from many, with a large number going beyond simply saying "this stinks" to explaining exactly why they think so.
So why is that troubling? Why do you have problems with others being negative about this? If the number of "complainers" is so small, part of an insignificant echo chamber, why protest the expression of opinion at all? What does it matter?
If the discussion here sounds familiar, it's because two other very recent high-profile projects were talked about here and elsewhere in very similar terms. Starcruiser and Harmonious. Both outlandishly costly to build, both shuttered in short order after marketing mishaps and scathing online criticism.
Disney put out the video knowing the stakes were high and the response has been less than glowing, so much so that mainstream media is already picking up the story.
If you disagree with the criticism, simply try to explain *why* you like the new ride in as much detail as those who are criticizing it. But don't simply deride the negativity or the manner in which it is expressed.
Disney invited the expression of opinion by releasing the video. They had to expect a response. And that response is mixed at best.
The end result is negative comments from many, with a large number going beyond simply saying "this stinks" to explaining exactly why they think so.
So why is that troubling? Why do you have problems with others being negative about this? If the number of "complainers" is so small, part of an insignificant echo chamber, why protest the expression of opinion at all? What does it matter?
If the discussion here sounds familiar, it's because two other very recent high-profile projects were talked about here and elsewhere in very similar terms. Starcruiser and Harmonious. Both outlandishly costly to build, both shuttered in short order after marketing mishaps and scathing online criticism.
Disney put out the video knowing the stakes were high and the response has been less than glowing, so much so that mainstream media is already picking up the story.
If you disagree with the criticism, simply try to explain *why* you like the new ride in as much detail as those who are criticizing it. But don't simply deride the negativity or the manner in which it is expressed.
ChrisFL
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No, they have other problems, like trying to ignore COVID regulations at the height of the pandemic