MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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GenChi

GenChi

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Regardless of your opinion on the final ride, I believe we can agree how much of an absolute PR disaster their handling of this ride has been. Starcruiser levels of mismanagement.

Just some of their greatest hits:
  • Announcing both being rethemed at the same time, during a particularly charged period, with this particular theme seeming to be a response to that, and breaking the unity escapism facade the company always built leading to the flame wars this ride is having to this day.
  • Having Splash leave with no ceremony and erasing every evidence it existed (while not truly being able to do so with Tokyo existing).
  • Deciding to have the longer MK version, which this redesign wasn't geared towards be the one that gets renovated first and that empty space which feels like budget cuts be the first impression.
  • The plot announcement that was poorly received by everyone and led to far too late management readjustments alongside potentially lessening the amount of screens used.
  • Openly saying the one character and potential plot point that was universally considered a brilliant inclusion for a log flume ride will not be included.
  • The weird backstory stuff that ultimately meant little to nothing on the actual ride and seemed to flip-flop between who it was trying to appease.
  • Not revealing any of the inside theming except some of the impressive animatronics (which was arguably its only smart move) until now.
  • Having the opening date leaked 12 hours earlier then planned by mistake.
  • Releasing the behind the scenes video to try and jump any negative reviews but just leading to negative online first impressions including with journalists.
  • The ride breaking down so often during previews it's been fully operation only a few hours so far
So many better ways they could have handled this, even if the ride itself would have been the same end result.
 
Figgy1

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Professortango1 said:
I get that. But she's a political figure. And the site had her haunting it for awhile despite those chosen politics not being relevant to anything on these boards. If we want to be a-political, we have to stick to that.
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we've been told politely and repeatedly to take all questions about moderation to a pm with the mods
 
Figgy1

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El Gran Magnifico said:
Tell them to build one about a rabbit. Getting chased by a bear. Make it a water ride. And throw in a Toad and a Viking for good measure.
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Midwest Elitist

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GenChi said:
Regardless of your opinion on the final ride, I believe we can agree how much of an absolute PR disaster their handling of this ride has been. Starcruiser levels of mismanagement.

Just some of their greatest hits:

  • Having Splash leave with no ceremony and erasing every evidence it existed (while not truly being able to do so with Tokyo existing).
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The erasure of Zip is one of the biggest tragedies in American cultural history, I truly believe that. It sounds nothing like the ice cream truck song, so the resemblance to that song makes no sense if you think about it longer than a millisecond. What was once a song inspired by kids singing "Zip-a-dee-doo-dah" is now tarnished by lies. This will continue with other elements of the company history, since Jim Khorkis, an actual credible Disney historian, is now dead.
 
larryz

larryz

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GenChi said:
Regardless of your opinion on the final ride, I believe we can agree how much of an absolute PR disaster their handling of this ride has been. Starcruiser levels of mismanagement.

Just some of their greatest hits:
  • Announcing both being rethemed at the same time, during a particularly charged period, with this particular theme seeming to be a response to that, and breaking the unity escapism facade the company always built leading to the flame wars this ride is having to this day.
  • Having Splash leave with no ceremony and erasing every evidence it existed (while not truly being able to do so with Tokyo existing).
  • Deciding to have the longer MK version, which this redesign wasn't geared towards be the one that gets renovated first and that empty space which feels like budget cuts be the first impression.
  • The plot announcement that was poorly received by everyone and led to far too late management readjustments alongside potentially lessening the amount of screens used.
  • Openly saying the one character and potential plot point that was universally considered a brilliant inclusion for a log flume ride will not be included.
  • The weird backstory stuff that ultimately meant little to nothing on the actual ride and seemed to flip-flop between who it was trying to appease.
  • Not revealing any of the inside theming except some of the impressive animatronics (which was arguably its only smart move) until now.
  • Having the opening date leaked 12 hours earlier then planned by mistake.
  • Releasing the behind the scenes video to try and jump any negative reviews but just leading to negative online first impressions including with journalists.
  • The ride breaking down so often during previews it's been fully operation only a few hours so far
So many better ways they could have handled this, even if the ride itself would have been the same end result.
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Perhaps they should rename it "Titanic's Bayou Adventure."
 
Mr. Sullivan

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Trauma said:
Now the entirety of the internet is an echo chamber.
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It is. That’s kinda the whole point.

This forum. Twitter. Reddit. YouTube. All of it is an echo chamber. It is a place devoid of consequences and all pushback is impersonal and inconsequential so it emboldens people to argue and fight and say whatever they want because they’re allowed to be anonymous.

People can blindly hate or blindly love whatever they want because the internet removes the nuances of real life interaction and conversations and allows someone to completely silence any voice that speaks against their beliefs and focus only on hearing what they agree with.

It allows a curation to the experience the user wants exactly. Real life doesn’t.
 
Homemade Imagineering

Homemade Imagineering

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the argument that kids will enjoy this and that’s all that matters at the end of the day is incredibly flawed, not only because a younger child isn’t able to formulate more critical/thoughtful opinions of an attraction, but more importantly because if that was the only standard that had to be met then WDI would be rendered useless. WDI is meant to create complex attractions that tell stories with cohesive set design and proper pacing. The very job of an imagineer is to create something that will tell a complex story and will resonate with ALL guests, not just the little ones. If the content being produced is only created for the sake of children’s entertainment, then what is the point of hiring talent at all?? Good attraction design is when both the parents and the children can come away from an experience feeling like they took something away from said experience, and while children will be far more forgiving in this instance, adults are much harder to please. That is why Walt Disney created Disneyland in the first place, to appeal to not only children but adults alike. There needs to be something for everyone, and while I think it’s great that some can ignore the issues with TBA in lieu of their children having good experiences with it, that doesn’t mean that criticism of the attraction is invalid. If you enjoy what Disney has given us, then that’s fantastic, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but there will always be constructive criticism in the entertainment world, whether that’s with television/film or theme parks. Criticism should be welcomed so some of us won’t have to continue to feel underwhelmed. If they can please their most critical fans, then almost 99% of everyone else will be satisfied
 
davis_unoxx

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Midwest Elitist said:
I'm glad you found it funny that a song ingrained in Disney History, therefore American history since the 70's, is now erased from the public. You win, and did a fantastic job refuting legitimate criticism with what boils down to "nuh uh". I prefaced "cultural" because I wanted to avoid that I was equivocating legitimate harms this country has done, with erasure of art. You fell into the trap and proved my point, now everyone can see it.
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I agree with you completely, before I even knew where the song came from I remember singing it in my elementary school choir! It’s special
 
FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Inspired Figment said:
Or.. ‘Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: With Br’er Rabbit’


So the fix for the redo is this (ala Journey Into Your Imagination ‘99 to With Figment ‘02).. Tiana’s planning her critter band party just like the first redo but she discovers a new critter has wanted to join in on the fun, Br’er Rabbit and it happens he’s looking for his laughing place.. so what better way to get a laugh than to hijack/screw up/prank Tiana’s party plans every step of the way, Tiana & Louis getting annoyed with him ala Dr. Channing until the very end when Tiana & Louis finally learn from Br’er Rabbit “Everybody’s Got a Laughin’ Place, it’s just people need to take the time to look for it.” and it ends with her, Louis, her friends, and Br’er Rabbit and some reused AAs from the previous ride laughing altogether at the end/finale

Just a way to rub salt on the wound like With Figment did on the fan complaints surrounding the redo, under the masquerade of a “return/comeback”.
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Wow.. I didn’t realize I literally made this comment on the 22nd Anniversary of ‘Journey Into Imagination: With Figment’’s opening… oiii.. quite the “sense-sational” day.. isn’t it?? Ugghh… talk about a massive dissapointment. All the marketing and hype like they were gonna restore it back to it’s former glory only to get.. the same bad redo with empty show scenes full of scenes draped in black curtain, closed doors & test charts but Figment shoehorned in the way he is to mock the fan complaints with a rogue phone call,, a random bad CG animated sing along on an eye chart, skunk farts and a toilet stuck to the ceiling in the “Friends of Figment” upside down room. Just.. what on earth?? Beyond tone-deaf, insulting, & stupid. Especially when you consider Disney was founded upon the very quality of imagination and there they just mock it. “It’s just turning your thinking upside down”. 🙄😑 Sad that we’re pretty much back to that with the Splash redo, just with high tech animatronics shoehorned in. I ‘really’ hope they take the right lesson from the Journey Into Imagination debacle and don’t repeat the same thing whenever they plan to fix Tiana’s Bayou Adventure/Splash Mountain … can’t say my hopes are that high though. (Let alone in restoring Journey Into Imagination back to its former glory with tech & spfx enhancements it should’ve received back in ‘98 instead of the lousy Honey I Shrunk IP retheme we got.. which is LONG overdue). But who knows.. maybe.. just maybe, they might be smart enough to do ‘that’ atleast after this debacle. Not putting much hope in current management though, that’s for sure. Will probably take a change of management to do anything, I gather.
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