TheCoasterNerd
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Hey Pro said that not all the AAs are installed so since apparently they're so right all the time we've got something to look forward to this winter
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MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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If you believe Disney when they say TBA started in earnest in 2019, how is it possible that this uninspired and simplistic fetch quest storyline took 5 years to come to life?
They didn’t have to design the ride system or build the show building, it was a reskin and update of an existing attraction.
So what took them so long? Either it was gross incompetence at WDI and the team running this (believable) or there were so many chefs in the kitchen providing direction on this from multiple places in the company, that the end product turned out to be crap. (Or both)
ChrisFL
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Ok, I planned to wait to see it in person but with so much discourse going on, I decided to watch this one and to me the ride is....fine? I mean, no it isn't as good as Splash was, but it's not a complete travesty from what I'm seeing. Now I will need to wait to ride it myself to really see if there are a lot of things just empty, difficult to tell on POV ride-thrus sometimes.
I’ve read the last 50 or so pages. My expectations were low, but this new ride is terrible. It’s a complete embarrassment. .And while I’m sure the new ride will be popular because log flumes are fun, if story and music don’t matter to a ride there is likely a log flume with a 50 foot drop at your local amusement park you can ride for a lot cheaper. They’ve essentially replaced a ride that appealed to the entire family with one that looks and sounds as though it was geared towards preschoolers (but with a height requirement and “thrill aspect”). Doesn’t make a lot of sense…
As a longtime Disney fan who loved Splash Mountain I certainly have one less reason (among many others) to visit. As a shareholder I’m livid that this is the crap the company is choosing to spend money on as attendance falls and money is tight. The stock has been a disaster for the past couple of years. Disney clearly doesn’t need or want fans like me.
What the company has done to this franchise, the characters, the stories, the music and the actors is a disgrace. Yes, I am angry. I am thankful I had one last trip that was planned specifically to visit Splash before its closure.
As a longtime Disney fan who loved Splash Mountain I certainly have one less reason (among many others) to visit. As a shareholder I’m livid that this is the crap the company is choosing to spend money on as attendance falls and money is tight. The stock has been a disaster for the past couple of years. Disney clearly doesn’t need or want fans like me.
What the company has done to this franchise, the characters, the stories, the music and the actors is a disgrace. Yes, I am angry. I am thankful I had one last trip that was planned specifically to visit Splash before its closure.
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Casper Gutman
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I still support the idea that replacing SotS was absolutely justified.
But I haven't felt like this since they destroyed EPCOT in the late 90s.
All that said, you don't need SotS to give the ride edge, tension, humor. All of those could have been present in the new version. The lack of them can be attributed to a lot of factors, but a major one is a corporation terrified of offending guests of ANY political persuasion, not just from one side or the other. It's the same cowardice that prevents the development of a new vision for EPCOT, that makes everything bland and safe.
But I haven't felt like this since they destroyed EPCOT in the late 90s.
All that said, you don't need SotS to give the ride edge, tension, humor. All of those could have been present in the new version. The lack of them can be attributed to a lot of factors, but a major one is a corporation terrified of offending guests of ANY political persuasion, not just from one side or the other. It's the same cowardice that prevents the development of a new vision for EPCOT, that makes everything bland and safe.
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davis_unoxx
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Agreed, the closest Iger and his pals get to normal people is when he lands into Nantucket Harbor on his yacht and has to walk by the deckhand tying up his ship.
flynnibus
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I think people should take note of all the changes to the evacuation paths, the new walls, etc. Clearly they had a focus on 'updating' the ride system in ways.
Ghost93
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I share a similar sentiment. I believe that the Song of the South theme needed to go and that Princess and the Frog was a perfect IP to retheme it with.
Unfortunately, the execution of the Tiana ride was a complete miss. While using the SOTS theme at all in the first place was a mistake, that theme was executed as well as it could have been and I do believe Splash Mountain was a great ride and one of the great Disney imagineering achievements. A Princess and the Frog retheme of Splash Mountain COULD HAVE and SHOULD HAVE been great as the film had all of the right ingredients for it — a solid cast of character characters, great music, humor, tension, and a nice message. But Tiana's Bayou Adventure has a very weak story with no tension, no funny bits, repetitive and terrible dialogue and no strong messages beyond "everyone is special."
doctornick
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Very honestly, I don’t expect I’ll ever buy ILL but if Disney did this I’d absolutely spend the money to do it. Obviously they wouldn’t but it would be great to have that option.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
It looks like the biggest issue is the lack of details that Splash Mountain had everywhere.
The story is another thing but I also know there's a lot of armchair imagineers who talk about how "many of the original favorites didn't have an overall story but just a theme" when it comes to Haunted Mansion and Pirates, etc..
Splash had a complete story, even if a lot of people probably didn't understand what it all meant.
The story is another thing but I also know there's a lot of armchair imagineers who talk about how "many of the original favorites didn't have an overall story but just a theme" when it comes to Haunted Mansion and Pirates, etc..
Splash had a complete story, even if a lot of people probably didn't understand what it all meant.
I still think the problem is that they replaced a ride that appealed to the entire family with one that has a story and dialogue geared towards preschool girls…and this on a ‘thrill’ ride with a height requirement.
Although some posters don’t seem to understand, Disney is not just for kids. That’s not the way to create lifelong fans who then want to take their kids and grandkids. They seem to be catering to the crowd that visits Disney because they have children and then can check it off the list (one and done).
MagicHappens1971
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Disney has proven that infusing IP (whether you like it or not) drives revenue. If you are so concerned as a shareholder you should be happy to know this attraction will be printing money in merch sales.
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Figgy1
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Maybe just me but I don't see that merch flying off shelves
How much did this project cost? I think we know the answer. Money well spent? I would argue no.
Using your logic we should close every attraction (and there are a lot of them), popular or not, to add “modern IP that people are actually interested in”.
Actually, your post to me summarizes the very thing wrong with current Disney management.
MagicHappens1971
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150M-200M? Disney blew that like 8 times last year on box office flops. This attraction was due for a heavy refurb anyway, and as GMR-MMRR and Malestrom-FEA showed us, if Disney is spending the money to redo an attraction, it's going to be IP based. Do I love TBA? I'm holding out full judgement until I ride it, but I'm overall happy with it.
Are you arguing that $150-$200 million dollars is not a lot of money? Money that could have gone to additions? It’s one thing to spend money like that redoing rides that are not popular. Splash Mountain was not in that category.
Well at least you admit all the box office flops.
MagicHappens1971
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I'm not a staunch Disney supporter. But there are some basic facts here. Very few people outside of what sometimes seems like an echo chamber (this forum) cares/knows about SotS. A lot of people know/care about Tiana and she enforces the Disney Princess branding. The different outfits she wears, and the cute little critters will sell far more merch than Splash ever did.
Very few people may have known or cared much about SOTS…yet the ride was still popular. Seems to prove my point.
MagicHappens1971
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I feel like I've gone in circles about this, but haven't we confirmed that there were credible rumors that Disney started planning to replace Splash with Tiana in 2019? Way before the events that people claim caused Disney to pull the trigger on this retheme.