News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[TP2000]

I mean there is currently a 50 minute wait for Buzz Lightyear.

Why even bother making good rides if the average fan will wait for anything.

Right ?

I get your point, but that seems to also speak to the horrifically bad management and leadership of WDW, and Magic Kingdom Park especially, over the past 20 years. That park is so woefully under capacity that it's nearly criminal. No wonder the guests are breaking out info fistfights regularly now, the pressure is too high in that park.

The leaders who have been in charge of Magic Kingdom Park are not good showmen, and they have no sense of hospitality. Or so their decisions over the past 20 years would seem to show.

I just posted this over in the Disneyland version of this thread, where the general sentiment from the West Coasters on this new ride is unimpressed and disappointed, but there's still a mild hope that it will somehow be improved with Disneyland's faster and more frenetic version of Splash Mountain's ride system. But at Disneyland, even if Tiana's Bayou Adventure is a noticeable downgrade from Splash Mountain, there's a couple dozen extra rides for customers to work with during their day, and almost a half dozen extra E Tickets at Disneyland compared to Magic Kingdom.

That would seem to lessen the pressure on Tiana to be the big hit at Disneyland it does not appear to be at WDW.

Magic Kingdom Park = 8 E Tickets, including Tiana's Bayou Adventure
Disneyland Park = 13 E Tickets, including Tiana's Bayou Adventure (and that's counting MMRR as a D Ticket)

MK E Tickets (Jungle, Pirates, Tiana, Thunder, Mansion, Small World, Tron, Space)
DL E Tickets (Jungle, Indy, Pirates, Mansion, Tiana, RoTR, MF:SR, Thunder, Small World, Matterhorn, Submarines, Space, Star Tours)

 

[Trauma]

Can they please bring the team over from Tokyo.

Just let them do whatever they want for the BBTM expansion. Give them the $$$ they need and stay the heck out of their way.

 

[Brian]

I haven’t watched the POV because I wanted a surprise, I might give in by the end of the day. But I gave it to my 6 year old to watch to tell me if she wants to ride it. She squealed “Tiana” multiple times and declared she wants to go on it because Mama Odie does rainbow magic. So anecdotally it’s passing the little girl test in my house. Based on what I’m reading here it doesn’t pass the adult test

I'm not trying to assert that you meant anything to the contrary, but the very reason why Disney parks exist is because Walt felt the adults should get enjoyment out of the attractions too. They can hem and haw about 'relevancy' all they want, but if an attraction is strictly appealing to children, they've failed.

The local county fair can easily appeal to children. It's easy to appeal to them. Just as you said, your daughter looked at it and got excited just because Tiana is in it. The challenge lies in finding something that appeals to both, and at least when it comes to this attraction, it seems like they missed the mark.

 

[Incomudro]

I haven’t watched the POV because I wanted a surprise, I might give in by the end of the day. But I gave it to my 6 year old to watch to tell me if she wants to ride it. She squealed “Tiana” multiple times and declared she wants to go on it because Mama Odie does rainbow magic. So anecdotally it’s passing the little girl test in my house. Based on what I’m reading here it doesn’t pass the adult test

I'm afraid - and actually of the belief that most adults will judge it like your little girl does.
"Tiana!"
"Mama Odie!"
"Pretty Colors!
"New!"
That's more than good enough for most adults.

 

[JoeT63]

I haven’t watched the POV because I wanted a surprise, I might give in by the end of the day. But I gave it to my 6 year old to watch to tell me if she wants to ride it. She squealed “Tiana” multiple times and declared she wants to go on it because Mama Odie does rainbow magic. So anecdotally it’s passing the little girl test in my house. Based on what I’m reading here it doesn’t pass the adult test

And the little girl (and boy) test is really the only test that matters. How will this play going forward? I'm a 60 year-old dude, and all the "it ain't as good as it useta was!" stuff gets old so fast. Get over it. (Or, better, stop going to WDW so the crowds will thin out!) This is going to be a huge hit among those I care about most...my grandkids.

 

[Dragonman]

it really amazes me how this team of WDI did not keep most of those critters from Splash. All they had to do was redress a few of them and have kept the inside much more lively. Instead the lump expensive AA's in certain areas where the logs pass by quickly and do not get to even enjoy them. That whole area with no was and just a walled screen is just a bad choice

Apparently some of the DL animals are being kept from what I’ve seen (don’t remember where but it was a photo of the stork being confirmed to be staying).

 

[Trauma]

And the little girl (and boy) test is really the only test that matters. How will this play going forward? I'm a 60 year-old dude, and all the "it ain't as good as it useta was!" stuff gets old so fast. Get over it. (Or, better, stop going to WDW so the crowds will thin out!) This is going to be a huge hit among those I care about most...my grandkids.

Apparently you know nothing about a man named Walt Disney and why he created Disneyland to begin with.

 

[brb1006]

What was the point of spending so much time writing up personalities for these animals when they don't appear to do anything? Who cares what they say their personality like it's the back of a trading card when they're in the ride for seemingly 45 seconds with no lines?

Disney must be saving those ideas for the upcoming Tiana series on Disney+.

 

[TheIceBaron]

From the business model perspective I wonder how the lightning lane sales will be for this attraction? I feel like part of the thing that helps pay for new attractions nowadays is the paid ILL. Since it’s new I anticipate it will be popular for a few months, or be sold out just on those unbrerably busy days. However if the sales don’t track as well as some of the other new attractions sales, they might finally do some soul searching.

 

[SuddenStorm]

From the business model perspective I wonder how the lightning lane sales will be for this attraction? I feel like part of the thing that helps pay for new attractions nowadays is the paid ILL. Since it’s new I anticipate it will be popular for a few months, or be sold out just on those unbrerably busy days. However if the sales don’t track as well as some of the other new attractions sales, they might finally do some soul searching.

Didn't Disney say there wouldn't be Individual Lightning Lane for this attraction?

 

[Brian]

From the business model perspective I wonder how the lightning lane sales will be for this attraction? I feel like part of the thing that helps pay for new attractions nowadays is the paid ILL. Since it’s new I anticipate it will be popular for a few months, or be sold out just on those unbrerably busy days. However if the sales don’t track as well as some of the other new attractions sales, they might finally do some soul searching.

This is not going to be an ILL attraction. It will be part of Genie+.

 

[TheIceBaron]

Oh oof I thought it was my bad

 

[Trauma]

From the business model perspective I wonder how the lightning lane sales will be for this attraction? I feel like part of the thing that helps pay for new attractions nowadays is the paid ILL. Since it’s new I anticipate it will be popular for a few months, or be sold out just on those unbrerably busy days. However if the sales don’t track as well as some of the other new attractions sales, they might finally do some soul searching.

In order for an attraction to utilize ILL it has to be good enough for people to pay extra to ride it.

Clearly this does not qualify.

 

[UNCgolf]

The ride is nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe.

It’s just truly not as good as it should be.

This is essentially how I feel too.

If you eliminate 2-3 minutes of ride time (cutting out some of the empty spaces) and remove the big drop but leave everything else roughly the same, this would be a solid D ticket boat ride addition to the park. It wouldn't be one of Disney's best attractions, but it would be fine.

It's just not a headlining E ticket, though, and it's not on the level of what came before.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

That’s my biggest issue now is the people criticizing the attraction for the wrong reasons.



Splash is no more and will be remembered fondly but at some point we need to move on.

I’m pretty new to this forum overall and I just hope that this thread isn’t representative of how every conversation on every new thing goes because this has been miserable lmao

I’m all for criticizing The Mouse because there’s a lot of it they deserve but this has been genuinely way too much nonsense and hullaballoo for no legitimate reason.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

In order for an attraction to utilize ILL it has to be good enough for people to pay extra to ride it.

Clearly this does not qualify.

Its just really amazing that you think general audiences aren’t gonna love this because the Disney fandom has been mixed on it. Time has proven that what the fandom thinks doesn’t really matter and that the GP will ride and enjoy most things because they’re not this emotionally invested.

What are you all gonna say when this ride opens and proves to be popular and people love it? Where is the goal post gonna shift then?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I’m pretty new to this forum overall and I just hope that this thread isn’t representative of how every conversation on every new thing goes because this has been miserable lmao

I’m all for criticizing The Mouse because there’s a lot of it they deserve but this has been genuinely way too much nonsense and hullaballoo for no legitimate reason.

The discourse surrounding this ride has been torrential from day one. People here tend to speak critically of Disney and its movements, but this has been uniquely bad.

I agree that there's plenty to criticize about this attraction, but that's why it's important to engage in good faith. People tell on themselves when they go off in ways that are disproportionate to reality.

EDITED To Add: I just want to clarify that I don't think speaking critically of Disney is automatically bad, which I worry my post might have accidentally implied. I think that's actually healthy and smart - but in this particular case the discussions around Tiana's attraction have been unprecedentedly contentious and genuinely toxic. Far beyond either constructive or readily-earned criticism and off into fully destructive territory.

 

[Trauma]

I’m pretty new to this forum overall and I just hope that this thread isn’t representative of how every conversation on every new thing goes because this has been miserable lmao

I’m all for criticizing The Mouse because there’s a lot of it they deserve but this has been genuinely way too much nonsense and hullaballoo for no legitimate reason.

Yeah why would anyone be upset over losing one of the greatest attractions of all time, for a D ticket.

Enjoy your time here at WDWmagic !!

 

[Chi84]

I’m pretty new to this forum overall and I just hope that this thread isn’t representative of how every conversation on every new thing goes because this has been miserable lmao

I’m all for criticizing The Mouse because there’s a lot of it they deserve but this has been genuinely way too much nonsense and hullaballoo for no legitimate reason.

It’s pretty exceptional.

 

[Trauma]

Its just really amazing that you think general audiences aren’t gonna love this because the Disney fandom has been mixed on it. Time has proven that what the fandom thinks doesn’t really matter and that the GP will ride and enjoy most things because they’re not this emotionally invested.

What are you all gonna say when this ride opens and proves to be popular and people love it? Where is the goal post gonna shift then?

I’m not going to engage with your trolling. I don’t know who you are but find someone else.