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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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What part of the ride is this?
The first Lift Hill after the loading station where Br’er Frog was
donaldtoo
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donaldtoo
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Again, the referenced salt dome/mine is located completely under flat, Louisiana ground. “Salt Dome Mountain” isn’t even a stretch, it’s a friggin’ joke.
And, “Tiana’s Foods” sounds like a generic grocery store…!!!!!
Expect this retheme to include over four dozens new audio-animatronics, around half of which will be models of the latest generation. Three of those will be Tiana. Screens and projections will be utilized to add depth to sets, other than that, the biggest use of screens and projections will be in the final scene which I'm most excited about from everything I've heard. Just be prepared to bid farewell to the steamboat and all the original audio-animatronics!
Midwest Elitist
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I almost threw up.
Ghost93
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Over four dozen!?! That's impressive!
I don't mind the steamboat going away. I want this ride not constantly to remind me of the original Splash Mountain, I want it to be its own thing.
TomboyJanet
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BOOO!!!!
I don't want a happy sappy drop scene! I want action!!! Not good guys throwing you over cliffs!
And getting rid of ALL the animatronics? Despicable!
My expectations are going down down down the falls!
MerlinTheGoat
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I doubt the steamboat is leaving. Not because I heard anything about it, but because it makes very little sense to get rid of an element that fits flawlessly with the new attraction (even better than it did with Song of the South in fact). There's literally no reason to scrap it, so i'm remaining skeptical on that matter. And while I also heard there would be a LOT of new AA's, quite a few of which are state of the art, I was also told that they weren't scrapping all of the old AA's either.
IF that use of video is accurate (and i don't know if it is), it will depend on a couple of things.
1- Whether it's just used as a way to add some movement to things that were going to be flat and stationary anyways, like walls. If they take away from physical scenery, it would become a problem. Most of the digital mapping added to the classic Fantasyland rides at Disneyland prior to the 2020s were quite well done. Mostly because they didn't detract from the physical scenery and just added some motion to what was already a flat and static surface. If it's just used as a crutch so they don't have to design as many characters and detailed physical sets, then we'd have a problem. That didn't sound like the plan though thankfully. Sure as hell don't want another Frozen situation...
2- Lighting. Some uses of video screens brighten the room up too much in a negative way. While I praised a lot of the recent digital mapping effects in Disneyland's old dark rides, the recent Snow White additions were a step down due to the way they overbrightened some of the areas.
IF that use of video is accurate (and i don't know if it is), it will depend on a couple of things.
1- Whether it's just used as a way to add some movement to things that were going to be flat and stationary anyways, like walls. If they take away from physical scenery, it would become a problem. Most of the digital mapping added to the classic Fantasyland rides at Disneyland prior to the 2020s were quite well done. Mostly because they didn't detract from the physical scenery and just added some motion to what was already a flat and static surface. If it's just used as a crutch so they don't have to design as many characters and detailed physical sets, then we'd have a problem. That didn't sound like the plan though thankfully. Sure as hell don't want another Frozen situation...
2- Lighting. Some uses of video screens brighten the room up too much in a negative way. While I praised a lot of the recent digital mapping effects in Disneyland's old dark rides, the recent Snow White additions were a step down due to the way they overbrightened some of the areas.
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How'd you get any of that from his post?
Vinnie Mac
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Lol he's still grieving. Just give him some space
TomboyJanet
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Like I said I think the Possums are staying, as well as any one that's scaled properly. But have I mentioned how much I hate the drop scene? I don't think I have yet lmao
That's the hurdle that's g
There was one particular effect that was noted in a video on Navi River where instead of making a waterfall they projection mapped it...Just WHYYY!!?
Well he said say goodbye to the animatronics. The Thing about the Drop is just combining it with what I heard previously about the no villain thing. I was just saying how unexcited I am about that part of the ride if they make it all jolly and "The special Part is YOU!!!!"-ish. Otherwise that's my new name for this ride "The special part is you!"
She but yeah. Imma go be mad somewhere again. I'm visiting my MADDENIN' place
MerlinTheGoat
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I will admit that I have zero clue WHY they made that waterfall a projection effect. It's just a really silly thing to bother with and I can't imagine a pump being significantly more expensive (there's even STILL a physical turbulence effect underwater anyway).
That said, for as confusingly unnecessary as it is, I have to be 100% honest here and admit that I could not tell that was a projection effect until I was told it was. It's ironically probably the most convincing projection i've ever seen and is the only one that has ever fooled me into thinking it was real. Still completely pointless, but also admittedly impressive that I didn't notice. There are a lot of bad looking projection effects that detract from the experience (Frozen), and this isn't one of them.
The Navi River ride in general has some really beautiful sets with mostly well done environmental projections. Not referring to the flat animal and navi projections which 100% should be been animatronics. But the ones that give surfaces extra dimension as well as kinetic motion that would be flat and static otherwise. Or the lighting and shadow effects it uses. If Navi had been 3x longer and had as many animatronics as Splash, then it would stand among some of the greatest rides Disney has ever built.
Based off what i've heard, Tiana should deliver a significant amount of high quality AA's (no face projections either I think). My hope now is that they can do justice to the scenery as well. IF there's going to be projection to aid with environmental detail, then the Navi ride isn't a bad template to follow at all. Far better than the likes of Mickey or Frozen. Layered detailed physical scenery in the foreground, keep the projections restrained to the distant walls to give what would have been static painted flats some extra energy and depth. The way to mess this up would be to copy Frozen and make the rooms empty dark corridors with video projected on a flat wall.
UNCgolf
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Glad to see someone else say this! I think Navi's combination of physical sets with projections/screens to add depth and movement is fantastic. It's exactly the template I'd like to see them follow for future attractions in terms of the place-setting.
Of course Navi has flaws, but I think they are mainly due to it being a C ticket instead of a D or an E. As you mentioned, if it was significantly longer with a bunch of AAs, then it's likely an E ticket masterpiece. Since Tiana is an E, it certainly needs those AAs (and a lot of them), but Navi is an excellent template for the sets.
Brer Panther
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Is it hard to maintain? Do they have to keep going in and repairing it? If so, that might be all the reason Disney needs to scrap it.
danlb_2000
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I have a hard time believing current Disney management would spend the money for that many animatronics.
FettFan
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With a projection you can give the illusion of going faster than you are so that you think you are racing out of the tunnel down into the flume. Sort of like Fast and Furious, but hopefully only better. In order to do that with animatronics you would need to put them on a belt and have them swing by on a giant carousel.
Tha Realest
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Awesome insider news, and welcome to the message boards!