News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

Tha Realest

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If the “salt mine” / “co op” was just negligible backstory that wasn’t a key part of the experience, we’d be hearing less about it - not more - as details continue to trickle out about this attraction. As it stands, it seems it forms the basis, at the very least, of the queue and the first phase of the ride (and likely the last part too, upon the return).
 

yensidtlaw1969

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True...but these background stories for the standby queue presumably didn't make the bulk of most of the press releases for these attractions or get shoehorned into the attraction story. It was a means to tell a story to guests in a queue (but if you're in the Lightening Lane then you'll miss the story entirely). So, is the co-op thing also part of the ride or is it just the queue? If you're in the LL, will you miss the co-op backstory entirely? Because they've mentioned this angle a lot and also have it on the construction fences. Why couldn't it just be her food storage warehouse for her restaurant from the movie? It just feels awkward and unnecessary to me, but with all things Disney, I'm waiting for the ride to open.

We've yet to see anything describe the Co-op as part of the ride proper, it's only ever been referred to by Disney as part of the queue elements.

Every piece of concept art and description of the actual flume show elements has been about the Bayou, the critters, and Tiana. No mention of the Co-op showing up along the ride path. It's the framing device for how we end up on the Bayou with Tiana, same with how Alpha Centauri Expeditions is the framing device to take us from walking around Pandora to riding the back of a Banshee.

Disney wasn't shy about sharing information on Alpha Centauri Expeditions and the Pandora Conservation Initiative in the run up to Pandora's opening - in fact, they shared a series of posters created to "advertise" A.C.E.'s different excursions. They even put them on the construction walls too, with the company's Logo prominently featured:


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Disney also released articles and videos in which they tout how they worked with real Animal Scientists to help develop a plausible biology to the environment of the land and its attractions, similar to the way they've been working with real artists from New Orleans to help imbue TBA with authentic character from the city:


They even went so far as to post about how the Cast Members were being "immersed in the Na'vi culture" and being taught the language, and created special Alpha Centauri Expeditions Nametags for the cast members in the land:


Keep in mind, too, that Pandora: The World of Avatar is a whole brand new land with 2 attractions, dining, shops, and significant placemaking. Tiana's Bayou Adventure is only one attraction, not a whole land, and therefore does not have quite so many new elements that can be discussed before you reach the point of giving away more than Disney wants to reveal. Not to mention that the ride system and layout are already known to the public.

Point being that Pandora's fake company got a lot of airtime even though there were a lot of other things in that new Land they could have been talking about, so it's really not so outrageous for Tiana's Foods to be featured similarly when discussing the new standalone attraction for which they clearly don't want to spoil everything.
 

SpectreJordan

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I would also add that they need to theme the area above you just like splash had with the tree branches and leaves. That seems to be a lost necessity for imagineering, in which they focus on what’s on your left and right but above you will be duct work just painted black.
I mean tbf classics like Peter Pan & Small World do that too, sadly. I do agree that they shouldn't do that though; even if they don't have anything covering the ceiling, they should do what they do in Pirates. I love how they make the ceiling look in Pirates.
 

Drew the Disney Dude

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• Photos from today, Jan. 19

• Heard a lot of activity from the lift hill before the 50-foot drop

• Lots of flora added outside before the drop into the show building

• I know it was previously mentioned but seems like the tape on the water tower is for more moss to be added soon

• Took a peek through the mesh and the main area outside behind the walls is surprisingly clean - they removed more low-level scaffolding and started installing flowers around the track where the boats drop
 

FettFan

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@EagleScout610 brought up... honestly, they sound awful. Why is Mama Odie shrinking us down to the size of a "critter" (which critter specifically? A frog? A beaver? A rabbit?) in the first place?

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Would make more sense for Dr. Facilier to do this, then have Odie change us back.

I’ve also seen a rumor that Bernard and Bianca will have a brief blink-and-you-miss it cameo, which would mean that Tiana’s Bayou Adventure actually takes place in Devil’s Bayou.

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We now know the fate of the Zip A Dee Lady.
 

FettFan

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PS - always thought the whole “talking animals” concept of PatF was absurd.

Ideally the only talking animals would have been fellow victims of Facilier.
Louis the alligator should have been an allusion to the story of Robert Johnson who sold his soul to the devil for musical talent….Louis wants to play the trumpet, Facilier grants him his wish, but is turned into a gator.

And the bald red-haired guy turned into a wolf.

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Stupido

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PS - always thought the whole “talking animals” concept of PatF was absurd.

Ideally the only talking animals would have been fellow victims of Facilier.
Louis the alligator should have been an allusion to the story of Robert Johnson who sold his soul to the devil for musical talent….Louis wants to play the trumpet, Facilier grants him his wish, but is turned into a gator.

And the bald red-haired guy turned into a wolf.

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What makes talking animals absurd in PatF, when Disney has a long history of talking animals in their movies? 🤔

Plus the animals don't even start talking until Tiana and Naveen are also animals. IF this "getting turned into animals" storyline is true, I'd assume mama odie turns us into animals so we can understand Louis and friends.

Do you similarly have issues with Little Mermaid having talking animals that Ariel can fully understand whether she's half human or full human?
 

BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

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What makes talking animals absurd in PatF, when Disney has a long history of talking animals in their movies? 🤔

Plus the animals don't even start talking until Tiana and Naveen are also animals. IF this "getting turned into animals" storyline is true, I'd assume mama odie turns us into animals so we can understand Louis and friends.

Do you similarly have issues with Little Mermaid having talking animals that Ariel can fully understand whether she's half human or full human?
I'd just have Louis and the other critters start talking immediately without magic.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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PS - always thought the whole “talking animals” concept of PatF was absurd.

Ideally the only talking animals would have been fellow victims of Facilier.
Louis the alligator should have been an allusion to the story of Robert Johnson who sold his soul to the devil for musical talent….Louis wants to play the trumpet, Facilier grants him his wish, but is turned into a gator.

And the bald red-haired guy turned into a wolf.

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Only after Tiana and Naveen turn into frogs do they gain the ability to understand animals. It's clear from that scene that Tiana had never heard an animal speak before. Mama Odie can also understand animals, given that she speaks to Ray and Louis. But she's a powerful sorceress who can do all sorts of crazy stuff (i'd imagine Facilier might have the ability as well). If the critters in the ride talk (i'm guessing Louis will) and they need a reason for guests to be able to hear them, then they can just have Mama Odie give riders the ability.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Also, i'm kind of confused about that rumor of Mama Odie "shrinking" guests. Seems like a really strange and possibly pointless plot device if they're not going to actually do anything with the idea. Are they going to have large human-sized AA figures for frogs, squirrels and such?

According to Splash Archive, the piece of art with Tiana and Naveen in the canoe is going to be located in the bottom floor of the Laughing Place. At least at Disneyland. If replicated at WDW, it would be placed on the left side where the jumping fountains are. And it doesn't look like guests are shrunk down at all there, they still look human sized.

 

FettFan

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What makes talking animals absurd in PatF, when Disney has a long history of talking animals in their movies? 🤔

Plus the animals don't even start talking until Tiana and Naveen are also animals. IF this "getting turned into animals" storyline is true, I'd assume mama odie turns us into animals so we can understand Louis and friends.

Do you similarly have issues with Little Mermaid having talking animals that Ariel can fully understand whether she's half human or full human?

It was a case of PatF’s story needing a few more passes through editing before making it to screenplay. Same reason that beyond “the frog Prince in the jazz age”, a lot of the plot is just convoluted as hell.
 

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