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[TrainsOfDisney]

Four injured when decorative helicopter falls into pool at American Dream mall

Four people were injured and the American Dream water park was evacuated after a decorative helicopter came crashing down.

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It happens…

Look up in the various theaters and you’ll see all kinds of lights, fans, speakers, etc. which could all fall as well if not properly installed, maintained, and inspected.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Look up in the various theaters and you’ll see all kinds of lights, fans, speakers, etc. which could all fall as well if not properly installed, maintained, and inspected.

Yes, and they can still fall if they’re properly installed, maintained and inspected…we had a fast, casual restaurant called Quaker Steak& Lube…decorated like a garage…great concept that unfortunately failed & went out of business. They had a ‘57 Chevy hanging upside down from the ceiling…needless to say I never sat in the tables underneath it…

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yes, and they can still fall if they’re properly installed, maintained and inspected

Not sure how that’s possible?

 

[djkidkaz]

Maybe it warrants people stating what their expectations and standards are for the ride. I'm curious what yours are.

For this ride to be at all acceptable by MY standards, it needs to contain at least the same amount of AA's that Splash had (of an equal or better quality). They need to properly fill out the scenes as well, i'd better not see the finale for instance only have a fraction of what Splash had. And the scenery itself needs to be high quality and not overly reliant on flat projections at the expense of physical detail.

I would also add that they need to theme the area above you just like splash had with the tree branches and leaves. That seems to be a lost necessity for imagineering, in which they focus on what’s on your left and right but above you will be duct work just painted black.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I would also add that they need to theme the area above you just like splash had with the tree branches and leaves. That seems to be a lost necessity for imagineering, in which they focus on what’s on your left and right but above you will be duct work just painted black.

While I agree 100%, it looks like they're at least probably taking good care of the ceiling coverage. The interior shots from a month ago had plenty of foliage up there. That's one aspect i'm now fairly confident will be done right.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

While I agree 100%, it looks like they're at least probably taking good care of the ceiling coverage. The interior shots from a month ago had plenty of foliage up there. That's one aspect i'm now fairly confident will be done right.

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Eh…. Parts of Maelstrom to Frozen were done right and others were done crazy cheap. If they had gone all out to make Frozen special I wouldn’t be as annoyed. But snowflakes on screens where there used to be AA’s is not how to impress me.

 

[Brer Panther]

Also, wouldn't shrinking the riders down or turning the riders into a "critter" be too reminiscent of Tiana getting turned into a frog? Y'know, the thing that they're pointedly NOT doing in the ride, what with it being a sequel to the movie?

...and will this lead to the inclusion of a gigantic Tiana animatronic towering over the riders? I'd honestly kind of like to see that.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Eh…. Parts of Maelstrom to Frozen were done right and others were done crazy cheap. If they had gone all out to make Frozen special I wouldn’t be as annoyed. But snowflakes on screens where there used to be AA’s is not how to impress me.

What AAs? Maelstrom was very limited motions or still figures.

 

[Tjaden]

What AAs? Maelstrom was very limited motions or still figures.

Yeah but Frozen isn't always been—will always be—adventure!

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Eh…. Parts of Maelstrom to Frozen were done right and others were done crazy cheap. If they had gone all out to make Frozen special I wouldn’t be as annoyed. But snowflakes on screens where there used to be AA’s is not how to impress me.

I can't think of a single scene in Frozen that properly filled out and hid the ceiling. Even the scene at the beginning with Olaf. That's probably the best looking scene in the ride, and they did use a bit of ice-covered vines there, but it's not particularly dense and the blank ceiling and wall space (along with mechanical stuff) is extremely visible if you look up or on the other side.

Your point about some scenes potentially being better decorated than others is a possibility. However, I will still at least say that the shot they shared of TBA's interior already looks better filled out than ANY of Frozen's scenes. They seem to have kept the original trees and branches inside the ride, and it's not a huge deal to just swap out old greenery with new. I expect if nothing else, the ride will have ample foliage inside (and certainly outside).

From what I've heard, they actually went overboard and purchased more than enough foliage needed for the ride. As in WAY too much. Enough to do stuff with another attraction. You might even be able to deduce which one i'm referring to.

One recent ride that did a really great job at ceiling coverage was Navi River. Probably one of the reasons why I enjoy the ride and often defend it (despite its other flaws).

 

[aladdin2007]

I can't think of a single scene in Frozen that properly filled out and hid the ceiling. Even the scene at the beginning with Olaf. That's probably the best looking scene in the ride, and they did use a bit of ice-covered vines there, but it's not particularly dense and the blank ceiling and wall space (along with mechanical stuff) is extremely visible if you look up or on the other side.

Your point about some scenes potentially being better decorated than others is a possibility. However, I will still at least say that the shot they shared of TBA's interior already looks better filled out than ANY of Frozen's scenes. They seem to have kept the original trees and branches inside the ride, and it's not a huge deal to just swap out old greenery with new. I expect if nothing else, the ride will have ample foliage inside (and certainly outside).

From what I've heard, they actually went overboard and purchased more than enough foliage needed for the ride. As in WAY too much. Enough to do stuff with another attraction. You might even be able to deduce which one i'm referring to.

One recent ride that did a really great job at ceiling coverage was Navi River. Probably one of the reasons why I enjoy the ride and often defend it (despite its other flaws).

yeah but for the outside or inside?

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

yeah but for the outside or inside?

All I know is that the foliage they allegedly bought way too much of would be used for the interior scenes in another attraction. That is, if what I was told turns out to be accurate. And i'm inclined to believe it at the moment given what little is already known about said attraction.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Your point about some scenes potentially being better decorated than others is a possibility. However, I will still at least say that the shot they shared of TBA's interior already looks better filled out than ANY of Frozen's scenes. They seem to have kept the original trees and branches inside the ride, and it's not a huge deal to just swap out old greenery with new. I expect if nothing else, the ride will have ample foliage inside (and certainly outside).

From what I've heard, they actually went overboard and purchased more than enough foliage needed for the ride. As in WAY too much. Enough to do stuff with another attraction. You might even be able to deduce which one i'm referring to.

I’m glad they are keeping the ceilings covered. My one concern is that too much of the set design and set pieces end up being just foliage.

Aside from the animatronics, there were always cute little gags to look at in splash. Funny signs, critter houses, tiny bridges, pots and pans, rolling hills with details in the “distance”, etc.

 

[_caleb]

Maybe it warrants people stating what their expectations and standards are for the ride. I'm curious what yours are.

I don’t think I go by number of AAs. I think there can be well-balanced scenes with few AAs if the sets and other effects are done well. I would probably be disappointed if there isn’t a lot of movement in the scenes and if there isn’t a lot to look at in each scene.

I guess I expect it to be a fun ride with a coherent (if outlandish) story and great practical effects. I’m partial to the cultural elements of the concept: the food, the music, the Black American story they seem to be going for. I love that they’re trying to cram as much of the New Orleans/bayou vibe as possible.

 

[Kev1982]

I am 100% in favor of the re theme and I agree with you.

On the one hand they want to be as kid friendly as possible but try to explain young kids what a co-op is???

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

On the one hand they want to be as kid friendly as possible but try to explain young kids what a co-op is???

Probably about as difficult to explain as Alpha Centauri Expeditions, the Avatar Program, and the Pandora Conservation Initiative . . . which is to say, not particularly, because they design the stuff to make enough sense that you can have fun on the ride whether you know all the particulars or not. It's background, it's atmosphere. The onus isn't on guests to parse a scientific journal before riding Flight of Passage, or even chart the events between Avatar the movie and the present moment in Pandora the land. That stuff's just there to color the experience generally for the uninitiated and offer some exposition, world-building, and lore for the initiated. Which is almost certainly what will be happening with this ride.

But if you want to give your kids an early primer, you can tell them that a Food Co-op is like a grocery store that's owned by the community.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Yes. It happens when it is not done right. No one is saying it does not happen. Coaster's derail, including Disney's due to upkeep mistakes, they did not stop building coasters.

Yes, I agree, but I’m still not making a habit of standing or walking underneath it…that would totally RUIN my vacation…

 

[UofMGuy423]

Probably about as difficult to explain as Alpha Centauri Expeditions, the Avatar Program, and the Pandora Conservation Initiative . . . which is to say, not particularly, because they design the stuff to make enough sense that you can have fun on the ride whether you know all the particulars or not. It's background, it's atmosphere. The onus isn't on guests to parse a scientific journal before riding Flight of Passage, or even chart the events between Avatar the movie and the present moment in Pandora the land. That stuff's just there to color the experience generally for the uninitiated and offer some exposition, world-building, and lore for the initiated. Which is almost certainly what will be happening with this ride.

But if you want to give your kids an early primer, you can tell them that a Food Co-op is like a grocery store that's owned by the community.

True...but these background stories for the standby queue presumably didn't make the bulk of most of the press releases for these attractions or get shoehorned into the attraction story. It was a means to tell a story to guests in a queue (but if you're in the Lightening Lane then you'll miss the story entirely). So, is the co-op thing also part of the ride or is it just the queue? If you're in the LL, will you miss the co-op backstory entirely? Because they've mentioned this angle a lot and also have it on the construction fences. Why couldn't it just be her food storage warehouse for her restaurant from the movie? It just feels awkward and unnecessary to me, but with all things Disney, I'm waiting for the ride to open.

 

[Incomudro]

I don’t think I go by number of AAs. I think there can be well-balanced scenes with few AAs if the sets and other effects are done well. I would probably be disappointed if there isn’t a lot of movement in the scenes and if there isn’t a lot to look at in each scene.

I guess I expect it to be a fun ride with a coherent (if outlandish) story and great practical effects. I’m partial to the cultural elements of the concept: the food, the music, the Black American story they seem to be going for. I love that they’re trying to cram as much of the New Orleans/bayou vibe as possible.

I agree, a strict AA vs AA count alone does not determine if one ride is better than another.
There is more to it than that.
It's the overall engagement of the ride, the fun, the thrill, etc., it's not necessarily a head count of AA's.
Splash had it all though - lots of AA's, great visuals, pacing, songs, fun, and this oddly off putting feeling that despite all the whimsy - you were headed for something scary.
Tiana's has its work cut out for it.
I believe the scenery will be visually more beautiful.
More lush, better lighting and effects - fireflies etc.
Will it have that sense of fun and wonder along the way?
Will it have your head swiveling around to take it all in while there's a great big smile on your face?
I'm less sure of that.
I'd be far more sure had they used a Facilier theme.

 

[WaluigiTime]

If it is true that you get shrunk down to critter size I hope you see Mama Odie's eye looking back at your in the hole were Brer Bear was along with a voice over saying, "I am passing beyond the magnification limits of even the most powerful magic. These are critters, and yet they seem to grow larger and larger... or can I be shrinking?"