News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

FigmentFan82

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The only place an Aladdin area would make any sense would be as another expansion of Fantasyland. And it would have to be properly sectioned off into its own sort of mini area to work so it doesn't clash.

There does happen to be a designated expansion plot outside the railroad track directly east of the Circus area. Tron did eat up around half of that plot (and also ruined the sightlines for pretty much anything else around it), but there's still a significant chunk left over that could fit some other things if they so desired. They could fit both a spinner AND another substantial sized dark ride in that space. Aladdin having never received a proper Pan-like suspended dark ride almost feels like some sort of crime...
make a cave of wonders dark ride entrance that hides tron!
 

_caleb

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Everyone who is pushing back on the Tiana's Foods Co-op element and the presence of an "office," do you realize that this layer of the story isn't the main layer, but is a tried-and-true way to provide an in-story, on-theme explanation for the infrastructure of the ride?
  • Expedition Everest: Anandapur Rail Service, and Bob and Norbu's Himalayan Escapes
  • Indiana Jones: Sallah's guided tours to raise funds for the archeological excavation
  • Big Thunder Mountain: Barnabas T. Bullion mining operations owner
  • Jungle Cruise: The Jungle Navigation Company, Albert Falls AND Jungle Radio, Albert Awol
  • Kali River Rapids: Kali Rapids Expeditions
Most of these include an "office" in the queue, and help explain why there happens to be a ride vehicle in this environment.

Tiana's Foods Co-op brings TBA into alignment with the stories of these ideas for the same reasons, but I don't see endless posts complaining about Big Thunder being "a ride about a tycoon's mining operations."
 

Epcot82Guy

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Everyone who is pushing back on the Tiana's Foods Co-op element and the presence of an "office," do you realize that this layer of the story isn't the main layer, but is a tried-and-true way to provide an in-story, on-theme explanation for the infrastructure of the ride?
  • Expedition Everest: Anandapur Rail Service, and Bob and Norbu's Himalayan Escapes
  • Indiana Jones: Sallah's guided tours to raise funds for the archeological excavation
  • Big Thunder Mountain: Barnabas T. Bullion mining operations owner
  • Jungle Cruise: The Jungle Navigation Company, Albert Falls AND Jungle Radio, Albert Awol
  • Kali River Rapids: Kali Rapids Expeditions
Most of these include an "office" in the queue, and help explain why there happens to be a ride vehicle in this environment.

Tiana's Foods Co-op brings TBA into alignment with the stories of these ideas for the same reasons, but I don't see endless posts complaining about Big Thunder being "a ride about a tycoon's mining operations."

I'm not sure I follow your argument. We'll have to wait, but the story is we are boarding Tiana Food's log-based transportation system? I'm not seeing how a flume ride system relates to a New Orleans-based food production facility in the Louisiana salt mines.

I totally agree that in each of the other attractions, the "office" creates the setting for the attraction. We then go into a secondary story - but still within that setting. I just don't think it works that well because the story we have so far involves too many things (a food production company in the Louisiana salt mines, a New Orleans party and a bayou adventure in a magical area of some type). Not saying it couldn't be done. It's just not the straightforward/consistent story each of your examples have.
 

TheCoasterNerd

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In the Parks
No
I like the New Orleans music and radio station, maybe they could have the “real” radio station at WDW and let the former Citizens of Main Street / Hollywood perform it live? Or a nice little stage with live jazz music like they have in Disneyland.
If they don't drop a spotify playlist of the queue music istg
I doubt they will though
 

retr0gate

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I'm not sure I follow your argument. We'll have to wait, but the story is we are boarding Tiana Food's log-based transportation system? I'm not seeing how a flume ride system relates to a New Orleans-based food production facility in the Louisiana salt mines.

I totally agree that in each of the other attractions, the "office" creates the setting for the attraction. We then go into a secondary story - but still within that setting. I just don't think it works that well because the story we have so far involves too many things (a food production company in the Louisiana salt mines, a New Orleans party and a bayou adventure in a magical area of some type). Not saying it couldn't be done. It's just not the straightforward/consistent story each of your examples have.
Log based transport? Maybe not, but I don't think it's that much of a stretch to assume a food production facility would rule out some kind of water based transport altogether. Whether it's a log or an actual ship at that point feels arbitrary.
 

retr0gate

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I'm kinda hoping they do something similar to the hanging barrels in Disneyland POTC where crates are being loaded right above your head as you board.
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Disney Analyst

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I'm not sure I follow your argument. We'll have to wait, but the story is we are boarding Tiana Food's log-based transportation system? I'm not seeing how a flume ride system relates to a New Orleans-based food production facility in the Louisiana salt mines.

I totally agree that in each of the other attractions, the "office" creates the setting for the attraction. We then go into a secondary story - but still within that setting. I just don't think it works that well because the story we have so far involves too many things (a food production company in the Louisiana salt mines, a New Orleans party and a bayou adventure in a magical area of some type). Not saying it couldn't be done. It's just not the straightforward/consistent story each of your examples have.

They use the water system to transport crates, which float along the river, and we happen to jump on logs also floating down the river to go on some sort of adventure into the bayou.

The end.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I wonder if the Disney+ Tiana series was supposed to be out by now and fill in some of the plot
The series was stated to take place after the events of the ride from what I recall. So I doubt it would have been very useful at filling any of the holes the ride had.

I'm kinda hoping they do something similar to the hanging barrels in Disneyland POTC where crates are being loaded right above your head as you board.
Something like that hanging over the heads of guests sounds like something the lawyers over at WDW would veto these days.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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The series was stated to take place after the events of the ride from what I recall. So I doubt it would have been very useful at filling any of the holes the ride had.


Something like that hanging over the heads of guests sounds like something the lawyers over at WDW would veto these days.
I think they still exist in DL, and a similar effect with barrels overhead is in either Toad or Pinocchio at Disneyland (or both?)
 

Ayla

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I was hoping they'd just quietly drop the Tiana's co-op foods thing and just focus the ride on her exploring the Bayou. Just seems like an awkwardly forced component of the ride that isn't needed. She can explore the bayou regardless of the management structure of some food business she co-owns.
I am 100% in favor of the re theme and I agree with you.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I think they still exist in DL, and a similar effect with barrels overhead is in either Toad or Pinocchio at Disneyland (or both?)
That's why I singled out WDW in particular, because they seem more sensitive about this sort of thing than DL (though I also think new builds would shy away from using props like these in either resort).

Anyone remember the unicycle tightrope figure in Small World for instance? Removed a long time ago. Not to mention all of the overhanging moving props in Big Thunder, Dinosaur and Expedition Everest that have long been turned off or removed.
 

_caleb

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I'm not sure I follow your argument. We'll have to wait, but the story is we are boarding Tiana Food's log-based transportation system? I'm not seeing how a flume ride system relates to a New Orleans-based food production facility in the Louisiana salt mines.
You're right, we don't yet know what (if anything) they'll offer as an explanation for the logs. But my point is that like many other attractions, the story has a layer of "a business that has settled into this place (the office, the business operations, the crops we see, etc.) and guides you though the environment."

My guess is that the story is Tiana's business uses the old salt mine's rivers/canals to move product from the bakery/kitchen to town. Like @Disney Analyst posted above, they could float cargo down the river. This would fit with the "crates of beignets" we've been told about (and explain why beignets are in crates!), and would explain the use of logs as transportation for guests from the factory/kitchen/farm business out into the bayou.
I totally agree that in each of the other attractions, the "office" creates the setting for the attraction. We then go into a secondary story - but still within that setting. I just don't think it works that well because the story we have so far involves too many things (a food production company in the Louisiana salt mines, a New Orleans party and a bayou adventure in a magical area of some type). Not saying it couldn't be done. It's just not the straightforward/consistent story each of your examples have.
Pandora has layers like this. The land is set a couple of generations after the film series.

"In the Valley of Mo'ara, nature has been steadily reclaiming the Resources Development Association's (RDA's) old facilities and relationships between the humans and the Na'vi have become much more friendly. A new eco-tourism group, Alpha Centauri Expeditions, or ACE for short, has established a treaty with the Omaticaya tribe to establish a base camp for human tourists to visit Pandora and share in the Na'vi culture. Additionally, a scientific group known as the Pandora Conservation Initiative (PCI) has been working with ACE in helping restore the damage wrought on the environment by RDA's operations and have taken over the Avatar program to allow guests to fly on Banshees."

Is this any less convoluted? But it's all needed to make sense of how guests are able to visit Pandora, why there isn't an army of mercenaries like in the film, why Na'vi and humans are friends now, and why scientists would make it possible for us to use Avatars to ride banshees.
 

MagicHappens1971

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Is this any less convoluted? But it's all needed to make sense of how guests are able to visit Pandora, why there isn't an army of mercenaries like in the film, why Na'vi and humans are friends now, and why scientists would make it possible for us to use Avatars to ride banshees.
It’s not. But the general public doesn’t know anything about any of that. The same way the general public will never know the nuances of the queue being “Tiana’s corporate office”. The general public does not follow Disney news like this.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
That's why I singled out WDW in particular, because they seem more sensitive about this sort of thing than DL (though I also think new builds would shy away from using props like these in either resort).

Anyone remember the unicycle tightrope figure in Small World for instance? Removed a long time ago. Not to mention all of the overhanging moving props in Big Thunder, Dinosaur and Expedition Everest that have long been turned off or removed.
I don't think they turned off any of those things because they're "wild about safety" ;)
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I think it's because cool things like that are more likely to break, and WDW management doesn't want to pay to fix them.

And whatever cool things are in Tiana, in a few years it will be in the same disrepair that Splash was.
 
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_caleb

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It’s not. But the general public doesn’t know anything about any of that. The same way the general public will never know the nuances of the queue being “Tiana’s corporate office”. The general public does not follow Disney news like this.
They would have if they followed every piece of info coming out as the project was being built (like we do here with TBA). Notice this Pandora teaser trailer from 2016 (which features the NRJ shaman) is branded to Alpha Centauri Expeditions.



But just like most people who visit Pandora don't know (or care) about ACE or about the fact that this is supposed to be generations later than the setting of the films, most people probably won't know or care about Tiana's Foods, an employee-owned co-op.

But that doesn't mean it's not an integral part of the storytelling.
 

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