Tha Realest
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According to Mickey Views, Iger got a much better look at things so far and thinks it’s “really boring”
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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Vegas Disney Fan
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My initial reaction is the same as many others, the scenery looks great, add a couple animatronics to that scene and it’ll be amazing, if they don’t add any animatronics to that scene it’s going to be a pretty but boring place to be.
Whether this ride is disappointing or amazing is going to come down to animatronics and the story, the scenery will add to that though.
Whether this ride is disappointing or amazing is going to come down to animatronics and the story, the scenery will add to that though.
ToTBellHop
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Did the proposed plot sound exciting to anyone? Add Dr. Facilier!
LittleBuford
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If I'm not mistaken, the Shaman animatronic was not shown in situ in the promotional materials you're referring to.
The earliest previews with animatronics I could find for Runaway Railway are from February 2020, shortly before the opening. The animatronics are conspicuously absent from this December 2019 teaser:
I'll gladly acknowledge my error if I'm wrong.
JoeCamel
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So his lunch with Bob was informative?
Vegas Disney Fan
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I just watched that too, not very encouraging but there’s still a lot of time before this opens, I don’t think Igers going to accept a downgrade from Splash so if that really was his reaction hopefully they can add more before it opens.
mickEblu
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If true, I’d like to believe what he means by “boring” is that there is no drama or conflict. Obviously he’s smart enough to account for the fact that he’s walking through the flume and not riding a log and dropping down drops. I’d imagine they were playing music for him too. Either he’s not creative enough to imagine a finished product or like what many of us were predicting here - the ride is too montone. Hopefully Igers review brings changes and Facilier. That one imagineer who gave Brayden the scoop is probably hoping for this.
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Fox&Hound
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You have got to be kidding…
Brer Oswald
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It looks terrible. Like a cheap Bass Proshop display.
Vegas Disney Fan
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It reminds me of living with the land, which has great scenery and is a ride I love, but thats not going to cut it as a Splash replacement.
IanDLBZF
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Or we can expect major rework some time after TBA opens.
JustInTime
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I mean, from what I can tell it looks great? I swear it’s trendy to automatically hate everything Disney does these days.
MerlinTheGoat
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I'm actually surprised that significant work has already been done on the interior sets. I sort of expected there to still be a lot of bare steel and concrete. At this rate, I wonder if those aspirational goals to get this open closer to July actually end up happening... Eh @ToTBellHop ?
Objectively speaking, I would say the photos shared inspire some "cautious optimism" at least. It has physical sets and I don't see a whole lot of opportunities in there to cover everything in flat video screens. Should look much more lively once the AA's and show lighting are in.
It is clear to me at this point that Disney is holding back a lot of information and details on the ride. We're relatively "close" (by Disney standards) to the ride's opening and it's kind of crazy how much work they got done on the interior before they actually showed anything. No virtual ride through, and the only AA they've even teased so far was a static and very unfinished endoskeleton of Louis. I also know for a fact that they've been holding onto a number of other critter figures long before that brief D23 tease.
I don't think they're holding back out of concern over backlash either. I was told last year that there is actually genuine passion behind this and a desire to create something that can be a worthy successor to Splash. And i'm not talking about Charita Carter or Carmen Smith, who are figureheads at best (there are tons of actual creatives working on this). I myself doubt they can accomplish this. But I think it at least bodes well to have creatives with that sort of mindset involved, and I at least expect Tiana will be closer in quality to its predecessor than any of the other classic amazing E tickets they've replaced over the years.
Keep in mind that Splash Mountain was my favorite ride at WDW, and I am also going to be brutally critical of Tiana if it can't come close. I still have a lot of concerns about it.
1- The video claims the sets are only "slightly tweaked" versions of the ones in Splash, which isn't correct. It was a full gut and rebuild AFAIK, which the photos have shown.
2- I don't believe the claim that Iger saw it or said it was boring.
3- If Iger DID say that, good. Iger disliking something is a great sign IMO. He doesn't like the parks, and probably thought Splash Mtn and other classic E tickets boring too. Him disliking something is one of the best endorsements I can think of...
4- The comment about there being "17 new original AA characters" lines up with what my source said last year, and is now old info that was also misinterpreted spectacularly by that person narrating the video. The ride doesn't have only 17 AA's in total, the statement was that they created 17 brand new characters specifically for this ride that were not in the PATF film (which would manifest as AA's). That does not include duplicates of these characters that will appear in different scenes as you progress through the ride. Nor any other minor critters who aren't main characters. Nor does it include the returning characters from the film. Which include Tiana, Naveen, Louis, Mama Odie, Eudora, Charlotte, Big Daddy, and Naveen's family. Tiana, Naveen and Louis will also have multiple AA's placed throughout the ride.
Objectively speaking, I would say the photos shared inspire some "cautious optimism" at least. It has physical sets and I don't see a whole lot of opportunities in there to cover everything in flat video screens. Should look much more lively once the AA's and show lighting are in.
Not installed yet. They'll be some of the last things that go in, as is always the case.
While I'd be shocked if this ride is nearly as good as Splash, even I think some of these "see, checkmate, no AA's" posts are incredibly dumb. As are the "they would have shown them by now if they exist" argument.
It is clear to me at this point that Disney is holding back a lot of information and details on the ride. We're relatively "close" (by Disney standards) to the ride's opening and it's kind of crazy how much work they got done on the interior before they actually showed anything. No virtual ride through, and the only AA they've even teased so far was a static and very unfinished endoskeleton of Louis. I also know for a fact that they've been holding onto a number of other critter figures long before that brief D23 tease.
I don't think they're holding back out of concern over backlash either. I was told last year that there is actually genuine passion behind this and a desire to create something that can be a worthy successor to Splash. And i'm not talking about Charita Carter or Carmen Smith, who are figureheads at best (there are tons of actual creatives working on this). I myself doubt they can accomplish this. But I think it at least bodes well to have creatives with that sort of mindset involved, and I at least expect Tiana will be closer in quality to its predecessor than any of the other classic amazing E tickets they've replaced over the years.
Keep in mind that Splash Mountain was my favorite ride at WDW, and I am also going to be brutally critical of Tiana if it can't come close. I still have a lot of concerns about it.
1- The video claims the sets are only "slightly tweaked" versions of the ones in Splash, which isn't correct. It was a full gut and rebuild AFAIK, which the photos have shown.
2- I don't believe the claim that Iger saw it or said it was boring.
3- If Iger DID say that, good. Iger disliking something is a great sign IMO. He doesn't like the parks, and probably thought Splash Mtn and other classic E tickets boring too. Him disliking something is one of the best endorsements I can think of...
4- The comment about there being "17 new original AA characters" lines up with what my source said last year, and is now old info that was also misinterpreted spectacularly by that person narrating the video. The ride doesn't have only 17 AA's in total, the statement was that they created 17 brand new characters specifically for this ride that were not in the PATF film (which would manifest as AA's). That does not include duplicates of these characters that will appear in different scenes as you progress through the ride. Nor any other minor critters who aren't main characters. Nor does it include the returning characters from the film. Which include Tiana, Naveen, Louis, Mama Odie, Eudora, Charlotte, Big Daddy, and Naveen's family. Tiana, Naveen and Louis will also have multiple AA's placed throughout the ride.
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ToTBellHop
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I haven’t heard anything solid but I do think a late summer opening seems possible. Whether they do it is a different discussion. They may not want it until later in the fall and just slow down work once the outside looks presentable.I'm actually surprised that significant work has already been done on the interior sets. I sort of expected there to still be a lot of bare steel and concrete. At this rate, I wonder if those aspirational goals to get this open closer to July actually end up happening... Eh @ToTBellHop ?
Objectively speaking, I would say the photos shared inspire some "cautious optimism" at least. It has physical sets and I don't see a whole lot of opportunities in there to cover everything in flat video screens. Should look much more lively once the AA's and show lighting are in.
Not installed yet. They'll be some of the last things that go in, as is always the case.
While I'd be shocked if this ride is nearly as good as Splash, even I think some of these "see, checkmate, no AA's" posts are incredibly dumb. As are the "they would have shown them by now if they exist" argument.
It is clear to me at this point that Disney is holding back a lot of information and details on the ride. We're relatively "close" (by Disney standards) to the ride's opening and it's kind of crazy how much work they got done on the interior before they actually showed anything. No virtual ride through, and the only AA they've even teased so far was a static and very unfinished endoskeleton of Louis. I also know for a fact that they've been holding onto a number of other critter figures long before that brief D23 tease.
I don't think they're holding back out of concern over backlash either. I was told last year that there is actually genuine passion behind this and a desire to create something that can be a worthy successor to Splash. And i'm not talking about Charita Carter or Carmen Smith, who are figureheads at best (there are tons of actual creatives working on this). I myself doubt they can accomplish this. But I think it at least bodes well to have creatives with that sort of mindset involved, and I at least expect Tiana will be closer in quality to its predecessor than any of the other classic amazing E tickets they've replaced over the years.
Keep in mind that Splash Mountain was my favorite ride at WDW, and I am also going to be brutally critical of Tiana if it can't come close. I still have a lot of concerns about it.
1- The video claims the sets are only "slightly tweaked" versions of the ones in Splash, which isn't correct. It was a full gut and rebuild AFAIK, as shown earlier today.
2- I don't believe the claim that Iger saw it or said it was boring.
3- If Iger DID say that, good. Iger disliking something is a good sign IMO. He doesn't like the parks anyway, and I would be willing to bet he finds Splash Mtn and other similar classic E tickets boring too. Him disliking it is one of the best endorsements I can think of...
4- The comment about there being "17 new original AA characters" lines up with what my source said last year. That does NOT mean there are only 17 AA's in total in the ride, which is what the person in the video is saying. It means that there are 17 brand new characters that were created specifically for this ride (as AA's). That does not include duplicates of these characters that will appear in different scenes as you progress through the ride. Nor any other minor critters who aren't key characters. Nor does it include the returning characters from the film. Including Tiana, Naveen, Louis, Mama Odie, Charlotte, Big Daddy, and Naveen's family.
Logic would suggest they’ll want it ASAP while it’s still hot out but they aren’t always logical…keeping DL’s ride open this past winter and then closing in May was rather silly. Why not close it when ours went down and open it before it gets chilly in Anaheim in late 2024?
Horizonsfan
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I think you’re on the mark with the last guess, it looks like work is entering a different phase where they’ll close off the restroom courtyard and former laughing place playground for reconstruction.
MerlinTheGoat
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Haha, that's what I said. And again, while I don't believe that claim at all, Iger disliking something and considering it boring is a ringing endorsement by my own standards. The video stinks of clickbait though and has other incorrect assumptions aside. So again, I don't buy it. Though if it were true, i'd be more concerned with him making a lot of really stupid demands like tearing out scenery to install videos...
True, they could just sit on it for a while. Like even in a pretty much completed state. But it was always stupid to target a late year opening and does indeed make the most sense to get it open during the summer months. Even Florida gets cold during winter, enough to make a ride on a potentially soaking log flume extremely unpleasant.
While I don't know what "late 2024" meant for the original time frame (presumably December or maybe November), I had heard earlier this year that some of the imagineers were pushing hard to get it done much earlier. With the most aspirational being 5-6 months earlier. That was the most aggressive timeline though and I didn't expect them to approve it, but we'll see. They're certainly going fast right now...
Yeah so great that even Tony Baxter, lending his name as a symbolic participant in the design, gave up on it.
There were even credible reports that some of the imagineers working on this took glee in destruction of set pieces from Splash, so I won’t share the same optimism that you have about the creatives on this.
The Shamen was featured in promo material and via concept art as early as 2015.
The AA for MMRRR were featured as early as 2018 in concept and promotional material.