_caleb
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Have you been to New Orleans?I’ve still never seen a water tower in a swamp
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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TrainsOfDisney
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Many times. I was born in Louisiana. If this was tianas streetcar tour of food I’d be down. Haha.Have you been to New Orleans?
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LittleBuford
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Not that I think it matters (because fantasy trumps reality at Magic Kingdom), but elevated cisterns and water tanks were apparently a characteristic, and even necessary, feature of homes, plantations, and businesses in Louisiana until the early twentieth century, including along the bayou:
The Rise & Fall of the New Orleans Cistern
What structure is most characteristic of New Orleans architecture? Most of us might cite shotgun houses, cast iron balconies, Italianate villas or townhouses with...
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Is that a Cistern?
After living in Louisiana for 3 years now and working in the tourism and historic preservation industries, I have grown accustomed to a litany of questions from curious visitors to our state (and c…
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In light of this tradition, I wouldn't be surprised if TBA's water tower was intended by the Imagineers to enhance the ride's claim to "authenticity" (which is something the press releases have emphasised again and again, misguidedly to my mind).
TrainsOfDisney
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Examples? I mean there’s a castle at the end of Main Street USA, but there’s also a castle in New York City so even that isn’t really fantasy.
LittleBuford
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A towering Gothic castle at the end of a small-town American high street is pretty fantastical.
So are singing bears, singing birds (well, those capable of singing human songs!), an inhabited tree, flying elephants, a cruise combining the world's rivers, and a room that stretches, to mention just some examples.
I can't believe I'm having to defend the claim that the Magic Kingdom is, well, magical!
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mickEblu
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It does look kind of weak but I get the feeling that it’s one of the few non screen rides that’s tough to fully appreciate via ride through video. The queue and pre show look fantastic.
TrainsOfDisney
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The original Disneyland was never supposed to exist in a world outside or realism. It was a fantasy / ideal version of reality.
At the magic kingdom, the flying elephants exist in a fantasized “storybook” version of a circus. They don’t exist in Main Street.
And as I mentioned, there is indeed a castle in Central Park in New York City, a castle leading to a carousel in a park (the hub of Main Street at MK is sadly not much like a park anymore but that’s a separate complaint) is again a fantasy version of the real world.
LittleBuford
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Fantasy always takes the real world as its reference point; that's why it's recognisable as fantasy.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
TrainsOfDisney
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That realism has always played a big part in Disney theme parks and to suggest that details don’t matter is not in line with the history of the parks.
yensidtlaw1969
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Didn't that poster already show you the real-world historical basis for Water Towers in Louisiana, the very subject that prompted this train of thought?
No one's saying details don't matter. They're saying your nitpicking of this one is misplaced based on your own stated concerns.
LittleBuford
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I never meant to suggest that details don't matter, and I'm rather surprised that that's what you took from my posts.
Disstevefan1
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Louisiana does not have water towers?
Sir_Cliff
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I really don't think "Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom" was supposed to be firmly rooted in realism.
It was supposed to be believable to the extent that it allowed for the suspension of disbelief rather than obviously fake, but do you really think the castle is where it is because Walt wanted it to resemble replicas of castles in some US cities rather than wanting a fairytale European castle to draw people down Main Street USA and into Fantasyland?
LittleBuford
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The view down Main Street remains breathtaking for a reason. We are unaccustomed to seeing such a combination of architecture in the real world; that's the point!
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TrainsOfDisney
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I never said that they don’t. I said I’ve never seen a water tower in a swamp lol. Which I haven’t!
In many places it was, the railroad, riverboat and stage coaches back that up. Walt even wanted the freight trains to have actual cattle cars so people could feel like cows. Ward Kimball disagreed haha.
MerlinTheGoat
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I'm confident this ride will have a lot of animatronics when compared to pretty much anything they have built since the late 80s early 90s era (except for Sinbad). What I am shakier on is the exact number and if it will have AS many as Splash. While again I have expressed my doubts that SplashArchive's renders demonstrate the finished roster of figures in the finale (i've given my reasoning for this), I myself don't have a confirmed number for that scene. But several of the other scenes Disney has shown in art form have been well populated at least. Moreso than his finale renders. It would just be very odd to me if the finale ended up being one of the most sparse scenes in the ride, especially with all of those suspicious AA-sized spaces it looks like they built into the structure.
There have been others who have said it will have a lot of figures by modern standards as well. Someone else here said 48+ I think. Disney themselves said "dozens". Dusty Sage implied that the ride would have a large quantity of figures, including the finale, which he recently brought up as something that should not disappoint. And he's not prone to handing out praise for stuff lately without good reason. And again the scarce few pieces of art Disney has released point to there being a lot of figures as well.
BATB doesn't really have a lot of animatronics at all. Like 17-18 proper animatronics in total. Which is a larger number than anything else in recent memory, but still a far cry from the 55+ that WDW's Splash had or the 75+ that DL's Splash had. Or in comparison to Great Movie Ride, Pirates, Hall of Presidents, a lot of the big classic EPCOT attractions etc. A major flaw with BATB is in fact how sparce and lacking in figures it is. That along with the almost nonexistent village mob scene (which probably would have also forced them to up the AA quantity if they had included it as a proper fleshed out scene).
Speaking of riverboats... Frontier Land's riverboat docks in Colonial Liberty Square. The name of the attraction is Liberty Square Riverboat. All maps put its dock in Liberty Square.
But it's a Mississippi Riverboat. What's it doing docking in Philadelphia?
The number of anachronisms and contradictions strain the "realism" you claim is present in Magic Kingdom.
And a water tower isn't even anachronistic or a break in reality. Maybe the crown on it is. But we'll let the singing bears explain it to you.
JD80
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You should listen to this week's Disney Dish.
TrainsOfDisney
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If that’s a spoiler for the new show then I am most unhappy!!!!! I can Bear-ly tolerate it!!!
RSoxNo1
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Slow news day if we're complaining about posters on a construction wall.