News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

celluloid

Well-Known Member
The physical sensation of the drop won't change. All that's changing is the percieved height of the structure around it.

The drop will be as thrilling as ever.

That remains to be seen and will be subjective. Visual stimuli and cerebral enhancements greatly change the perspective of things. Many of which are in fact physical in nature.

Anyone who has been on coasters that add great scenery and head choppers into its design elements vs ones that are in a bare parking lot knows this difference. And that is not even considering theming which goes even further.

Let's wait until its done for people to say that the drop is physical as ever. We will have to wait.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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That remains to be seen and will be subjective. Visual stimuli and cerebral enhancements greatly change the perspective of things. Many of which are in fact physical in nature.

Anyone who has been on coasters that add great scenery and head choppers into its design elements vs ones that are in a bare parking lot knows this difference. And that is not even considering theming which goes even further.

Let's wait until its done for people to say that the drop is physical as ever. We will have to wait.
That’s a great point - tower of terror (Cali) and guardians are the same physical attraction but provide 2 completely different experiences.

Tower took the fun and playful ghost feeling of haunted mansion and added a legit thrill to give you a fun little scare.

Guardians just bounces you up and down “like a baby” (to quote the lead imagineer on the project) as they blast old rock music and show you films of already dated movie clips.

I have no desire to go back on guardians, except to see the rocket AA in the pre show lol.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
The majority of Epcot guests didn’t even know maelstrom existed lol.
Then lets use the Guardians/Tower example at DCA - which, by the way, massively changed the physical movement of the drop profile so as to be completely dissimilar from the original Tower of Terror, which Tiana's Bayou Adventure is not doing to the big drop. The physical drop is staying the same, and therefore the physical sensations will stay the same, which is exactly what I said before.

People don't call it Tower anymore, they call it Guardians.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
Then lets use the Guardians/Tower example at DCA - which, by the way, massively changed the physical movement of the drop profile so as to be completely dissimilar from the original Tower of Terror, which Tiana's Bayou Adventure is not doing to the big drop. The physical drop is staying the same, and therefore the physical sensations will stay the same, which is exactly what I said before.

People don't call it Tower anymore, they call it Guardians.

Sound, distance and proximity to things are also phyiscal.

If you have a pop up ghost scare you in Haunted Mansion. You had a physical sensation. That same person could ride without that pop up timed. The elements all around you play a part.

Humans are creatures of stimuli. You can say that the speed and height of the drop will be the same as I think that is likely the case.

Saying that the drop will be as thrilling as always, is a claim we don't know yet and again, is rather subjective.

Splash mountain's briar patch made the drop far more thrilling to many people due to its illusion head chopper/going into spikes.
Many could say they won't find that drop as thrilling without out it. Specifically, since 52 feet for a flume drop is pretty mild for current audiences.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Mountain. Hill. Same difference. It was a tall pile of “earth” with a waterfall flowing down. It still will be. Trying to downplay the height is counter intuitive to what the drop is supposed to be (a thrill).
If there's no difference why are people complaining about a shift in perspective of height?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Well that fact did not take the budget of the research trips. Where as the NOLA history and authentic inspiration has.

Also, I don't recall any press that this ride will feature that.
There is a significant above-ground hill taller than Splash that is a salt dome. It's in Southern LA near the gulf.

Yes, it's not in NOLA. But this is a movie with talking frogs. And an alligator that plays the horn. And actual Voodoo.

And the new ride will have critters playing instruments.

But excruciatingly exact geography is the real problem!!!
 
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Incomudro

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If there's no difference why are people complaining about a shift in perspective of height?
There will certainly be no difference in the actual feel of the drop.
But there will be a difference in the overall sense that the ride gives you.
I mean... That's the very reason the original structure had the stump on it - to lend an illusion of height which therefore influences your perception of the ride.
EE isn't that high, but it looks like a mountain snow caps and all - so you feel like you are ascending Everest.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
There is a significant above-ground hill taller than Splash that is a salt dome. It's in Southern LA near the gulf.

Yes, it's not in NOLA. But this is a movie with talking frogs. And an alligator that places the horn. And actual Voodoo.

And the new ride will have critters playing instruments.

But excruciatingly exact geography is the real problem!!!

Sounds like the issue was Imagineering needing four years and research trips to retheme this and then what we know we are getting so far is the problem. I think that is what people tend to get at. All I did was continue what was not in NOLA. Don't take it so personally.
 
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Kev1982

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This thread has lost all meaning. Can we please make a seperate one for actual construction progress and leave this one to be “dome-mountain backlash” and if they exist or not?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
‘what does that quote even mean? It’s just a word salad
ChatGPT explains it for a five year old:

Oh, I'm really, really happy! It's like when you're super excited about something fun. We're making something very special that will look amazing and have a magical feeling, like a fairy tale in a beautiful swamp. And we're going to share it in two parks, which will make a big, amazing change for everyone!
 

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