Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

mickEblu

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I think the tweet's gone due to FB misinterpreting this sign for the shop replacing Pooh Corner. Note Louis is on his back in this sign as well.View attachment 797583

Can we talk about this sign though? It's hard to tell but the tail appears to be three dimensional and then the rest of the sign is flat? Am I seeing that right? Well that's one point for MK. The Critter Co-op sign is much better than this. Critter Country had/has some beautiful signs between Splash, CBJ, Pooh, Hungry Bear, the Pooh store etc. This sign is not up to par. Hopefully it looks better and more three dimensional in person.
 

mickEblu

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Disney and the team that worked on TBA should be embarrassed.


What used to be there:

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What the TBA team replaced it with:

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The Guy who sells signs from his Instagram shop:

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Avastindy

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CaptinEO

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As predicted, a few months isn't enough time for slow working WDI to make any changes.

From Micechat:

Unfortunately, one thing the Imagineers were not able to address before opening is the giant story hole in the scene before the big lift and drop, which is causing the bulk of the negative reviews at the Magic Kingdom. Whether that’s due to no creative consensus on what to do or not enough time to do it, Disneyland’s Bayou Adventure is set to experience the same fan reaction. Nearly every current and former Imagineer we’ve spoken to (who wasn’t involved with the project) has expressed some level of frustration, concern, or anger over the Bayou Adventure project, and the group think that allowed Disney to ignore guest entertainment in favor of the desire to push a story that has nothing to do with the movie it was based upon. We’re confident that the issues will be corrected in time but don’t expect it to be any time soon (after all, we’re still waiting on fixes for Tomorrowland and Galaxy’s Edge).
 

Consumer

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As predicted, a few months isn't enough time for slow working WDI to make any changes.

From Micechat:
We’re confident that the issues will be corrected in time but don’t expect it to be any time soon (after all, we’re still waiting on fixes for Tomorrowland and Galaxy’s Edge
Why are they so confident it will be fixed when they list two reasons why it won't be?
 

mickEblu

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As predicted, a few months isn't enough time for slow working WDI to make any changes.

From Micechat:



Not enough time? Don’t open it til the start of the 70th anniversary next summer. That’s plenty of time to re-record some dialogue, fix some staging, add some more AAs (they should have a few they removed out back) add some projections/ suspense to the lifthill and play the song everyone wants to hear. Might not be perfect but would be light years better than what they opened at MK and would be better than disappointing everyone all over again. If they open this up in November that’ll be 6 months where they did nothing except work on giving us the exact same garbage from MK.
 

mickEblu

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D’amaro needs to call Potrock who needs to call Bruce Vaughn and tell him to put together a team that can fix TBA. Pull from past or present imagineers that didn’t work on TBA. The team who worked on TBA can’t fix it. But who wants to be the old White guy to mess with the DEI pet project?
 

CaptinEO

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But who wants to be the old White guy to mess with the DEI pet project?
Lets be real, even without the ego of senior imagineering and executives, the DEI layer makes this ride even more untouchable.

Micechat a few weeks ago pointed out that scott towbridge, who was in charge of galaxy's edge was reassigned to foreign parks, so maybe we will start to see change there in the future.

The egos of these creatives are too fragile. No one will admit to failure or react to guest feedback.
 
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mickEblu

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Lets be real, even without the ego of senior imagineering and executives, the DEI layer makes this ride even more untouchable.

This was Charita’s baby and nobody likes the optics of being the one to to tell her she failed. Any change we see would be some half measure still under her leadership and guidance. Unless she herself can be swayed by all the negative reactions.
 

CaptinEO

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This was Charita’s baby and nobody likes the optics of being the one to to tell her she failed. Any change we see would be some half measure still under her leadership and guidance. Unless she herself can be swayed by all the negative reactions.
They should give her and all the WDI leadership a "research trip" to Orlando Florida to see the guest reaction to this ride.
 

chadwpalm

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This group of people think they've created the best thing since the invention of the wheel. This ride is not going to be changed any time soon.

Much like the creators of The Acolyte, all these people think they are God's gift to the entertainment industry and changing the world through DEI policy.

It's all Disney mandated. Nothing is going to change.
 

DavidDL

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For what it's worth, Micechat's article also states that:

"Nearly every current and former Imagineer we’ve spoken to (who wasn’t involved with the project) has expressed some level of frustration, concern, or anger over the Bayou Adventure project-"

and,

"Unfortunately, one thing the Imagineers were not able to address before opening is the giant story hole in the scene before the big lift and drop, which is causing the bulk of the negative reviews at the Magic Kingdom."

So to at least some degree, some folks in the company understand there are issues. There's just probably nothing they can do about them at the moment. Of course Disney has all the money to address the issue but there's probably a ton of "bureaucratic red tape" those who want to see changes implemented have to cut through, first. We can only hope they (eventually) get around to addressing problem areas. At least we maybe have some minor tweaks to look forward to on our coast, until then.

"-due to the extra time Disneyland had, Imagineering was able to make important tweaks to the programming, lighting, and special effects."


That is gorgeous. Thank you for sharing it. The difference between what Disney's queue signage and this one is night and day. Which is especially frustrating because we've seen they have the capabilities to do better. See: The Critter Co-Op sign or the newest Hungry Bear sign.
 

mickEblu

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For what it's worth, Micechat's article also states that:

"Nearly every current and former Imagineer we’ve spoken to (who wasn’t involved with the project) has expressed some level of frustration, concern, or anger over the Bayou Adventure project-"

and,

"Unfortunately, one thing the Imagineers were not able to address before opening is the giant story hole in the scene before the big lift and drop, which is causing the bulk of the negative reviews at the Magic Kingdom."

So to at least some degree, some folks in the company understand there are issues. There's just probably nothing they can do about them at the moment. Of course Disney has all the money to address the issue but there's probably a ton of "bureaucratic red tape" those who want to see changes implemented have to cut through, first. We can only hope they (eventually) get around to addressing problem areas. At least we maybe have some minor tweaks to look forward to on our coast, until then.

"-due to the extra time Disneyland had, Imagineering was able to make important tweaks to the programming, lighting, and special effects."



That is gorgeous. Thank you for sharing it. The difference between what Disney's queue signage and this one is night and day. Which is especially frustrating because we've seen they have the capabilities to do better. See: The Critter Co-Op sign or the newest Hungry Bear sign.

Yeah I agree and it’s unfortunate.

It’s interesting the way the article frames the bit about the “imagineers not being able to address the giant hole on the lift-hill.” There is room to interpret that as a scene that is unfinished or malfunctioning and that they can’t speak on it or don’t have any insight. I don’t think that’s the case but it can be interpreted that way.

EDIT: never mind I skimmed over the part about “before opening.” But why are they speaking as if the Disneyland version has already opened and we saw that the lift hill is the same? One thing I need to stop doing is wasting any brain cells analyzing commentary from the likes of Micechat or Fresh Baked.
 
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Ghost93

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You don’t have to dig back as far as the book. The movie Song of the South is offensive enough on its own, including a major animated sequence that repeatably uses a term (and a blackface image) that has become incredibly hurtful and offensive to modern audiences (this is the same sequence in which the prominently-featured-on-ride song “How Do You Do” unfortunately originated).

I don’t like the (IMO) lame, preschool-like story that Disney concocted for TBA, but let’s not pretend that Splash wasn’t based on a property Disney will never show to the public again and apparently wants to pretend does not exist.

They could have dealt with the issue another way. They didn’t.
While I think Song of the South is a racist movie for its stereotypes, downplaying the horrors of slavery and romanticizing planations, the tar baby story existed before the word became a slur. It's still incredibly awkward to hear the term used in the film because the word now has a racist meaning, but I don't count the sequence towards the movie's long list of sins as its simply accurately retelling an ancient story.
 

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