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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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SuddenStorm
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That's literally part of why Splash Mountain's original opening was delayed to '89- to fix issues with the logs and to fix issues with the story and staging.
But that was a time when WDI took pride in their work and wanted things to be perfect.
A delay is temporary. Opening a crappy attraction is permanent.
chadwpalm
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Space Mountain is going down for a seasonal refurb (https://www.ocregister.com/2024/07/05/disneyland-to-close-space-mountain-during-busy-summer-season/) to fix lighting and flooring. Though I haven't watched today's State of Disneyland video yet, Dave said in the last construction video that the train going down was due to a multi-year refurb where they were going to close it down periodically to replace the track in sections. I don't think either of these things has anything to do with Tiana.
As @mickEblu stated, Disney seems to be pushing to get all the refurbs done before the 70th next year. IIRC, a lot of attractions were down the year leading up to the 60th celebration to do a ton of upgrades.
And if the guy on X is to be believed, Disney is trying to get all the refurbs in DL proper completed so they can start pushing focus on park expansion with DLF.
Have you seen where things are at in TBA construction? I'd be hard pressed to believe it will be open by September. The entirety of Critter Country is torn apart right now. I've seen some speculation that Disney is not just re-working CC for Tiana, but also configuring it to be the main thoroughfare between DL proper and DLF so they they don't have to close it down again when DLF is ready on the other side of Disneyland Dr.
Regarding Haunted Mansion, many believe it will be open by the end of this month. Someone just posted a pic in the HM thread of the headstones being back in the queue space. The area between the entry gate and the mansion should be finished soon and allow for the virtual queue to start going while the rest of the queue is being worked on.
mickEblu
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Right. It’s as if they don’t have enough capacity to deal with it being down. This isn’t AK or DHS.
TP2000
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This ride takes place a year or so after the movie. It's 1927. But they aged Tiana up by more than that, and de-glammed her into a jodhpur wearing swamp adventurer. Why?
You can't tell me a 6 year old girl would rather be whatever this lady is supposed to be...
Rather than the pretty Princess from the movie...
It’s just different clothes and her hair being down. She still meets in her ballgown and in the castle show wears a flapper outfit with another hairstyle in the same park. It makes sense she wouldn’t wear a dress in the swamp and there’s another outfit for the finale.This ride takes place a year or so after the movie. It's 1927. But they aged Tiana up by more than that, and de-glammed her into a jodhpur wearing swamp adventurer. Why?
You can't tell me a 6 year old girl would rather be whatever this lady is supposed to be...
Rather than the pretty Princess from the movie...
Epcot81Fan
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The second picture is “on model” to the animated movie - Tiana is a thin, beautiful, slender faced young woman. Why they decided to make the animatronic in the ride look nothing like that is bafflingThis ride takes place a year or so after the movie. It's 1927. But they aged Tiana up by more than that, and de-glammed her into a jodhpur wearing swamp adventurer. Why?
You can't tell me a 6 year old girl would rather be whatever this lady is supposed to be...
Rather than the pretty Princess from the movie...
I have no idea who that person in the first picture is supposed to be.
Beyond the costume and hair, the ride model’s face is much wider, older, and I wouldn’t even have guessed that it was Tiana if shown to me out of context.
And the fact that Charlotte and Naveen look exactly like they are in the movie as if no time has passed makes it even more puzzling,
Talk about “problematic” - it’s as if they said, “Eh, it’s close enough for our first black princess. She’s black, they’ll figure it out.”
Epcot81Fan
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Or put another way:This ride takes place a year or so after the movie. It's 1927. But they aged Tiana up by more than that, and de-glammed her into a jodhpur wearing swamp adventurer. Why?
You can't tell me a 6 year old girl would rather be whatever this lady is supposed to be...
Rather than the pretty Princess from the movie...
The second picture is the profile image on Tinder, while the first picture is who shows up at the bar.
Rich T
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Well, I have negative thoughts about TBA because I’ve ridden the MK version, and-though there are elements I like— The “story” is, IMO, so bland, stupid and uninspired that it really makes me wonder what the heck happened to this project.
Rich T
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A Few More Thoughts About TBA at MK:
Here are a couple of points I left out of my review last week:
Good:
1. This is great: If you stand in the runoff area, you can hear songbirds tweeting. It sounds very calming and natural. It’s only if you stay a bit and pay attention that you realize they’re chirping in tune with the music loop, almost like they’re doing their own bass or percussion line. I don’t know if this was originally done for Splash Mtn., but I certainly love it here. I like this more than the actual TBA ride.
2. Amount of splash. Sitting in back, I got the perfect amount of splash on the big drop—right in the face. Fun, refreshing, and I was dry again within five minutes. This is how it should always be!
3. The on-ride photo shop. Its walls are full of vintage-looking tin signs. I love tin signs. If they were purchasable, I’d have spent money. I certainly had no desire to buy any TBA merch.
BAD:
The ride’s preschool-level spot-the-animals “story” remains my biggest complaint, but there’s one other thing:
Charlotte, much-loved in the film for her hilarious non-stop and usually self-absorbed babbling—is completely silent on this ride. What a pity: her AA looks absolutely perfect!
Here are a couple of points I left out of my review last week:
Good:
1. This is great: If you stand in the runoff area, you can hear songbirds tweeting. It sounds very calming and natural. It’s only if you stay a bit and pay attention that you realize they’re chirping in tune with the music loop, almost like they’re doing their own bass or percussion line. I don’t know if this was originally done for Splash Mtn., but I certainly love it here. I like this more than the actual TBA ride.
2. Amount of splash. Sitting in back, I got the perfect amount of splash on the big drop—right in the face. Fun, refreshing, and I was dry again within five minutes. This is how it should always be!
3. The on-ride photo shop. Its walls are full of vintage-looking tin signs. I love tin signs. If they were purchasable, I’d have spent money. I certainly had no desire to buy any TBA merch.
BAD:
The ride’s preschool-level spot-the-animals “story” remains my biggest complaint, but there’s one other thing:
Charlotte, much-loved in the film for her hilarious non-stop and usually self-absorbed babbling—is completely silent on this ride. What a pity: her AA looks absolutely perfect!
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Rich T
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I’m just pointing it out as a reason Disney did what they did. I personally think if SotS had not had the TB phrase so prominently featured, there’d have possibly been more of a chance Disney would have tried to salvage/rework SotS into a presentable, context-appended bit of film history and kept Splash Mtn.
I think the offensive phrase was the deal-breaker that killed the entire IP. Maybe I’m wrong.
SuddenStorm
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At what point does a park become too big?
I know fans have been speculating about a third gate for 20 years now, but at a certain point Disneyland Park can't keep having new lands built. It works great when it's busy- but if there's a really slow season, having the extra operating costs might weigh negatively on it.
You can't exactly close off entire lands without looking cheap, but you can shorten operating hours of underperforming parks to meet demand.
DCA is slower than Disneyland, and it's operating hours reflect it.
Not to mention maintaining what's left of Disneyland's thematic integrity and charm.
TP2000
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What the heck is a "castle show"?
Regardless, which outfit do you think a 6 year old girl would want to emulate; the jodhpurs and pantsuit, or the sparkly gown?
TP2000
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I had such high hopes for this ride, so I still am trying to find good things to comment on.
I do like how they re-landscaped the exterior of Splash Mountain's skeleton. It looks far more lush and, well, swampy than it did previously. Even at Disneyland, where unlike WDW they didn't have to try and make it mesh with Big Thunder Mountain right next door because Walt didn't buy enough Florida property in 1965, this version of Tiana Mountain looks better all greened up and re-landscaped than Splash Mountain did.
A shame the interior of at least the WDW version is such a massive letdown and embarrassment, but at least the exterior looks better with 2020's fake landscaping compared to 1990's fake landscaping.
Disney Irish
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The Mods specifically said the topic of the previous attraction and its source material was off-limits in both the WDW and DLR threads as it was debated for 4 years straight. No new ground is going to be covered, its just rehashing the same thing over and over and over again from the last 4 years. TBA is opened in WDW and will soon open in DLR, its done its over.
Disney Irish
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WDW has a castle show where Tiana is featured in her flapper garb.
Brer Oswald
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This is one of the rare times where I disagree with you completely. Disneyland's Splash was such a marvel to look at. The distinction between then and now is of course the tree, or lack thereof. But the rockwork really shined with the old paint scheme. It was this whimsical haven, a blend of cartoon and realism, that you could only find at Disney. And the grass on it was actually real! Now the foiliage is fake, with little effort to convince us otherwise. And the rockwork has been plastered with blotches of vomit green. A harbinger of things to come perhaps, with all of the young guests they plan to attract?
As for the Florida version...well it was never as beautiful as California's. But the rockwork was at least vibrant. Now it looks like the Jurassic Dung Adventure. If I were to rate the exterior's throughout their history it would have to be:
DL Splash > Tokyo Splash >> WDW Splash >= DL TBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDW TBA
Brer Oswald
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I understand the desire to move away from talking about the old source film, but you are never going to be able to avoid hearing comparisons to the prior attraction. The whole point of this project was to replace it, and the discussion will always be on how it did/didn't live up. You aren't going to be able to avoid us until us 20-something year olds that went on (and loved) the original die out, and by that time, this ride will be rethemed to something else.
Disney Irish
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It has nothing to do with what I personally want to avoid or not avoid, which is what I said in my post before it was edited by the Mods. The Mods have already been in the thread and removed a bunch of posts including yours about said topic, my suggestion is to follow what the site Mods have stated otherwise risk being banned from the thread or worse.
